Jays 2024 Trade Deadline Thread

WuTang_CMB · Post #221 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:51 pm

Post #222 » by **Cyrus** » Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:56 pm

I mean look at Miami got from SD for their closer / and another reliever - SD top #2, #4, #5 and #24 prospects. But I guess its a closer, but it's also a rental closer.

SharoneWright · Post #223 » by **SharoneWright** » Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:58 pm

tecumseh18 wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:This may genuinely be the best trade I've seen a Toronto team pull off.

Uh, Kawhi? And if this is the real RJ, IQ lives up to his contract, Mogbo learns to shoot, and OG keeps getting his niggling injuries, then that trade with the Knicks may be even better.

As for the Jays, JP getting a scrub (Jose Bautista) from the Pirates for basically nothing (Robinzon Diaz) will always rank. OTOH, in terms of post-facto career WAR, Jays technically lost The Trade that brought in Carter and Alomar and sent out Tony F and future HOFer Fred McGriff. But flags fly forever.

Dougie Gilmore trade was pretty good.

dagger · Post #224 » by **dagger** » Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:26 pm

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This seemed like an obvious sell high move given the development of Jimenez, Barger, Horwitz, Clement, covering 2B/3B/SS and it could free up some money for next season

WuTang_CMB · Post #225 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:27 pm

good

sell high on IKF

Asianiac_24 · Post #226 » by **Asianiac_24** » Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:27 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
Harry Palmer wrote:Where would you put Vlad’s ~ value right now, closer to high or low? Sincere question, realized I had him locked into ‘low’ and hadn’t adjusted to his recent play enough, so wondering what people think. If his value is indeed approaching high I’d recommend trading him, if his value is about average I’d think about it.

I'll put it this way, the only offensive player definitively better than Vlad in MLB right at this moment is Aaron Judge. That's how good he's been over the last month or so. His season numbers are also now getting closer to what he did in 2021.

You would get an absolute haul for him if you dealt him right now.

If you mean last 2 weeks, sure. For the whole season Vlad is still pretty far behind a lot of players (ie. Ohtani, Soto, Ozuna, Bobby Witt, etc). Including position he would be even further behind.

I do agree we should trade him if we can get a haul like what Soto got. It's relatively cheap to get high end offensive production for a 1B, compared to other positions.

Post #227 » by **Cyrus** » Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:31 pm

dagger wrote:

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This seemed like an obvious sell high move given the development of Jimenez, Barger, Horwitz, Clement, covering 2B/3B/SS and it could free up some money for next season

Now the question is what is the return on selling high on a player..., who is also signed somewhat cheap next year.

Also is this the first trade between Ben Charrington and Jays?

dagger · Post #228 » by **dagger** » Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:33 pm

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Interesting numbers for McAdoo

https://www.milb.com/player/charles-mcadoo-807727

Post #229 » by **Cyrus** » Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:35 pm

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Return seems "low" based on the season IKF was having? But I guess him being injuried or working his way back plus maybe Pitts taking on the full contract without cash being sent, probably played a role?

Davey0 · Post #230 » by **Davey0** » Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:36 pm

Going to be a very young team moving forward.

Randle McMurphy · Post #231 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:41 pm

dagger wrote:

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Interesting numbers for McAdoo

https://www.milb.com/player/charles-mcadoo-807727

Another steal here from Ross. McAdoo has mashed his entire minor league career for the Pirates and we had no use for a utility player having a career year.

Hope they deal Chad Green too.

Randle McMurphy · Post #232 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:44 pm

Asianiac_24 wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
Harry Palmer wrote:Where would you put Vlad’s ~ value right now, closer to high or low? Sincere question, realized I had him locked into ‘low’ and hadn’t adjusted to his recent play enough, so wondering what people think. If his value is indeed approaching high I’d recommend trading him, if his value is about average I’d think about it.

I'll put it this way, the only offensive player definitively better than Vlad in MLB right at this moment is Aaron Judge. That's how good he's been over the last month or so. His season numbers are also now getting closer to what he did in 2021.

You would get an absolute haul for him if you dealt him right now.

If you mean last 2 weeks, sure. For the whole season Vlad is still pretty far behind a lot of players (ie. Ohtani, Soto, Ozuna, Bobby Witt, etc). Including position he would be even further behind.

I do agree we should trade him if we can get a haul like what Soto got. It's relatively cheap to get high end offensive production for a 1B, compared to other positions.

The guy has over a 180 wRC+ over June and July. And a 200 wRC+ looking at just this past month. Yes, I'm pretty comfortable saying the only hitter better than him right at this moment is Judge. Not sure what his position has to do with that statement.

As far as his overall value as a baseball player (where position does enter into it and him being a complete wreck of a defender/baserunner matters), that's something different.

Randle McMurphy · Post #233 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:48 pm

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Brinbe · Post #234 » by **Brinbe** » Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:53 pm

Good job on selling. We can only hope at least some of these prospect lottery balls pan out.

Randle McMurphy · Post #235 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:55 pm

Kiermaier to the Dodgers. Varsho will now no longer be a #LeftFielder.

Michael Bradley · Post #236 » by **Michael Bradley** » Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:55 pm

Wow they sold high on IKF and actually got what looks like a decent prospect. Are we sure Ross Atkins is still in power?

Asianiac_24 · Post #237 » by **Asianiac_24** » Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:56 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
Asianiac_24 wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:I'll put it this way, the only offensive player definitively better than Vlad in MLB right at this moment is Aaron Judge. That's how good he's been over the last month or so. His season numbers are also now getting closer to what he did in 2021.

You would get an absolute haul for him if you dealt him right now.

If you mean last 2 weeks, sure. For the whole season Vlad is still pretty far behind a lot of players (ie. Ohtani, Soto, Ozuna, Bobby Witt, etc). Including position he would be even further behind.

I do agree we should trade him if we can get a haul like what Soto got. It's relatively cheap to get high end offensive production for a 1B, compared to other positions.

The guy has over a 180 wRC+ over June and July. And a 200 wRC+ looking at just this past month. Yes, I'm pretty comfortable saying the only hitter better than him right at this moment is Judge. Not sure what his position has to do with that statement.

As far as his overall value as a baseball player (where position does enter into it and him being a complete wreck of a defender/baserunner matters), that's something different.

He's hitting very well in June/July, sure. But the whole season matters a lot more

Parataxis · Post #238 » by **Parataxis** » Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:58 pm

Cyrus wrote:
dagger wrote:

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Return seems "low" based on the season IKF was having? But I guess him being injuried or working his way back plus maybe Pitts taking on the full contract without cash being sent, probably played a role?

29th from the pre-season ranking, but jumping up into 15th at the mid-season re-rank, apparently.

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WuTang_CMB · Post #239 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:58 pm

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Brinbe · Post #240 » by **Brinbe** » Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:01 pm

Rays getting Carlson? holy

This stretch run is gonna be crazy

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