offseason tracker

[loveshaq007]

utah needs to add 14 mil to meet the floor...

send: Dlo, wood, lewis and two FRP swaps with Utah for Kessler. use the TPE on another big

We probably need to keep D'Lo for now. As much as people are hating on the guy, he was our 3rd best player last season and we hadn't made the play-in without him.

1. Hayes + JHS + Reddish + FRP (Protected) for Walker Kessler (LA also save 5.8M, which opens up the tax MLE).
2. Use tax MLE on Luke Kennard.

PG D'Lo - Vincent
SG Reaves - Kennard
SF Vando - Knecht
PF Lebron - Rui - (Wood)
C AD - Kessler - (Wood)

can't do two minimum contracts in one trade.

trade: Gabe, vando, wood, lewis, and TWO FRP swaps for Kessler....

keep DLO and maintain cap space for next season when he expires. LeBron can opt out and take a pay cut for a star

[DanishLakerFan]

utah needs to add 14 mil to meet the floor...

send: Dlo, wood, lewis and two FRP swaps with Utah for Kessler. use the TPE on another big

We probably need to keep D'Lo for now. As much as people are hating on the guy, he was our 3rd best player last season and we hadn't made the play-in without him.

1. Hayes + JHS + Reddish + FRP (Protected) for Walker Kessler (LA also save 5.8M, which opens up the tax MLE).
2. Use tax MLE on Luke Kennard.

PG D'Lo - Vincent
SG Reaves - Kennard
SF Vando - Knecht
PF Lebron - Rui - (Wood)
C AD - Kessler - (Wood)

can't do two minimum contracts in one trade.

trade: Gabe, vando, wood, lewis, and TWO FRP swaps for Kessler....

keep DLO and maintain cap space for next season when he expires. LeBron can opt out and take a pay cut for a star

Ok. Would prefer to replace Reddish with Lewis instead. Would accomplish the same without having to give away Vando and Vincent, who should be in our rotation next season. And JHS+Lewis+1 FRP should be enough for Kessler.

[loveshaq007]

the point is to shed mad salary. because Utah needs to meet floor and we can use the TPE

if we get them to take on 24 million more salary, we will get a fat TPE.... that will allow us to have brook lopez or jerami grant for free! both those teams would be welcome a huge salary relief

rui, wood, gabe, Lewis and two protected FRP Swaps for Kessler.... get jerami grant for free with TPE

[Anderson Hunt]

the point is to shed mad salary. because Utah needs to meet floor and we can use the TPE

if we get them to take on 24 million more salary, we will get a fat TPE.... that will allow us to have brook lopez or jerami grant for free! both those teams would be welcome a huge salary relief

rui, wood, gabe, Lewis and two protected FRP Swaps for Kessler.... get jerami grant for free with TPE

Now, objectively, tell me why this is a good trade for Utah.

While you're at it, tell me why it's not so good for both teams.

Life is good and bad. Explain the good and the bad for both sides.

[JRoy]

the point is to shed mad salary. because Utah needs to meet floor and we can use the TPE

if we get them to take on 24 million more salary, we will get a fat TPE.... that will allow us to have brook lopez or jerami grant for free! both those teams would be welcome a huge salary relief

rui, wood, gabe, Lewis and two protected FRP Swaps for Kessler.... get jerami grant for free with TPE

POR is not looking for a TPE for Grant. The FO wants 2 FRP. I don’t like Grant that much but the FO does.

[Anderson Hunt]

the point is to shed mad salary. because Utah needs to meet floor and we can use the TPE

if we get them to take on 24 million more salary, we will get a fat TPE.... that will allow us to have brook lopez or jerami grant for free! both those teams would be welcome a huge salary relief

rui, wood, gabe, Lewis and two protected FRP Swaps for Kessler.... get jerami grant for free with TPE

POR is not looking for a TPE for Grant. The FO wants 2 FRP. I don’t like Grant that much but the FO does.

Chicago wanted two firsts for Caruso, too. Neither OKC or POR are getting two firsts for their guys.

POR is bargaining. They are driving an extra hard bargain because it's the Lakers, and they smell their desperation, but Portland doesn't have the leverage they think they have.

Grant's contract isn't good. They'll eventually settle on one first and one serviceable rotation player, I, for one, hope it's not the Lakers.

[JRoy]

the point is to shed mad salary. because Utah needs to meet floor and we can use the TPE

if we get them to take on 24 million more salary, we will get a fat TPE.... that will allow us to have brook lopez or jerami grant for free! both those teams would be welcome a huge salary relief

rui, wood, gabe, Lewis and two protected FRP Swaps for Kessler.... get jerami grant for free with TPE

POR is not looking for a TPE for Grant. The FO wants 2 FRP. I don’t like Grant that much but the FO does.

Chicago wanted two firsts for Caruso, too. Neither OKC or POR are getting two firsts for their guys.

POR is bargaining. They are driving an extra hard bargain because it's the Lakers, and they smell their desperation, but Portland doesn't have the leverage they think they have.

Grant's contract isn't good. They'll eventually settle on one first and one serviceable rotation player, I, for one, hope it's not the Lakers.

Honestly, I’d rather send Grant anywhere but LAL. I don’t think his contract is bad. It’s not great but he is a 2 way F they shoots 3s at high volume and high %. Those guys will get paid.

[Anderson Hunt]

POR is not looking for a TPE for Grant. The FO wants 2 FRP. I don’t like Grant that much but the FO does.

Chicago wanted two firsts for Caruso, too. Neither OKC or POR are getting two firsts for their guys.

POR is bargaining. They are driving an extra hard bargain because it's the Lakers, and they smell their desperation, but Portland doesn't have the leverage they think they have.

Grant's contract isn't good. They'll eventually settle on one first and one serviceable rotation player, I, for one, hope it's not the Lakers.

Honestly, I’d rather send Grant anywhere but LAL. I don’t think his contract is bad. It’s not great but he is a 2 way F they shoots 3s at high volume and high %. Those guys will get paid.

On a winning team, Grant is 13-15 point scorer. He's a good role-player, but his deal is too much and too long for his role. He's definitely not what the Lakers need. They'd be better served going after LaVine.

Side Note: Nice to hear you admit to your Laker hatred. Personally, I'd make any deal with any team. My only litmus test is: Does this move help my team? If it benefits my team and the values are fair, I'd trade with anyone. Anything else is bad business.

[JRoy]

Chicago wanted two firsts for Caruso, too. Neither OKC or POR are getting two firsts for their guys.

POR is bargaining. They are driving an extra hard bargain because it's the Lakers, and they smell their desperation, but Portland doesn't have the leverage they think they have.

Grant's contract isn't good. They'll eventually settle on one first and one serviceable rotation player, I, for one, hope it's not the Lakers.

Honestly, I’d rather send Grant anywhere but LAL. I don’t think his contract is bad. It’s not great but he is a 2 way F they shoots 3s at high volume and high %. Those guys will get paid.

On a winning team, Grant is 13-15 point scorer. He's a good role-player, but his deal is too much and too long for his role. He's definitely not what the Lakers need. They'd be better served going after LaVine.

Side Note: Nice to hear you admit to your Laker hatred. Personally, I'd make any deal with any team. My only litmus test is: Does this move help my team? If it benefits my team and the values are fair, I'd trade with anyone. Anything else is bad business.

Ideally, Grant would have a smaller role on offense (mid teens ppg) which would allow him to focus on defense a little more. He can be a very solid defensive player.

I don’t want to help LAL for several reasons; chief among them is that future picks are less valuable before the next superstar demands a trade to LAL.

[SlimShady83]

Man Rob should just pull the trigger on the Grant trade give them 2FRP's. Rui/Dlo 2 pics, at this rate gonna get nothing or very little Inreturn for DLO anyway.

[stan francisco]

I don’t mean to be like that but we DO have a coach this next season. We literally didn’t have a system for two years. It should make a difference. Yes, even if he has not coached a single game, I look forward to some set plays, some coherent defensive strategy.

[stan francisco]

I like Aldama from Spain’s team at 7’0”. And number 7 on France is the type of bruiser we could use one of on the wing.

[Godfather13]

I like Aldama from Spain’s team at 7’0”. And number 7 on France is the type of bruiser we could use one of on the wing.

We do not have any roster spots or cap room to sign even a vet minimum contract. Bronny & Lewis could've been two way guys this year, and we could've signed some vet mins that could've actually got minutes on this team.

[stan francisco]

I like Aldama from Spain’s team at 7’0”. And number 7 on France is the type of bruiser we could use one of on the wing.

We do not have any roster spots or cap room to sign even a vet minimum contract. Bronny & Lewis could've been two way guys this year, and we could've signed some vet mins that could've actually got minutes on this team.

I did not think off-season was over yet.

[danfantastk32]

I did not think off-season was over yet.

We're something like $45k under the 2nd apron now. So unless we do a clever trade, you can call it an offseason.

[DanishLakerFan]

I did not think off-season was over yet.

We're something like $45k under the 2nd apron now. So unless we do a clever trade, you can call it an offseason.

It's not over yet. It may be wishful thinking, but i cant imagine that they would go into the season without upgrading a few places. I mean, package some combination of players that wont contribute this season (Reddish, Hayes, JHS and Lewis) and get back a rotation player as well as room enough under the cap to use taxMLE.

[Pointgod]

I did not think off-season was over yet.

We're something like $45k under the 2nd apron now. So unless we do a clever trade, you can call it an offseason.

It's not over yet. It may be wishful thinking, but i cant imagine that they would go into the season without upgrading a few places. I mean, package some combination of players that wont contribute this season (Reddish, Hayes, JHS and Lewis) and get back a rotation player as well as room enough under the cap to use taxMLE.

Much easier said than done. You have to find a team would actually wants these players.

[DanishLakerFan]

We're something like $45k under the 2nd apron now. So unless we do a clever trade, you can call it an offseason.

It's not over yet. It may be wishful thinking, but i cant imagine that they would go into the season without upgrading a few places. I mean, package some combination of players that wont contribute this season (Reddish, Hayes, JHS and Lewis) and get back a rotation player as well as room enough under the cap to use taxMLE.

Much easier said than done. You have to find a team would actually wants these players.

I know. It just sucks to see quality players sign for min. deals in with other contenders and i think LA could have presented equally enticing opportunities if they had just moved a bit sooner.

Still hope they do something with Utah, who can absorb a lot of money. JHS, Hayes, Lewis and protected first for Kessler and enough cap space to use taxMLE just seem like a pretty good place to start. I know the guy isn't a shooter, but we need a quality big when going against Sixers, Wolves and Nuggets. And we need a back-up plan for AD.

[danfantastk32]

I know. It just sucks to see quality players sign for min. deals in with other contenders and i think.......

Well, you and I disagree drastically with the state of this team....but just maybe there's a little truth hiding from you in that statement? Maybe these players don't see us as a contender?

Lebron opted out in an effort to give the Lakers a little more flexibility. Made it known to the FO (and other players) he'd take less if the right guys came along. Seems like a strange move to make for a contender, no? But either way....there was zero interest. DLo opted in, cause his agent (and the Laker FO) have been shopping him for almost a year, and there is zero interest out there.

Take a step back...and ignore all the things I've said....and just look at what happened! There's a reality here. This team has nothing of value to the league except: AD - their future picks. You can maybe throw Lebron in there...to the right team, but he'd have to sign off on it, and even that would be fairly specific...as Lebron himself has made it abundantly clear that there's an end to all this coming soon.

Call me a jerk...call me a pessimist...fine. Then YOU explain this offseason.

[LakersSoul]

Man Rob should just pull the trigger on the Grant trade give them 2FRP's. Rui/Dlo 2 pics, at this rate gonna get nothing or very little Inreturn for DLO anyway.

JGrant salary left:

Yr1 - $29.8 m
Yr2 - $32
Yr3 - $34
Yr4 - $36 m (po)

Do we want to pay our #3 option at age 30-31 years old these prices over the next 4 years? How much is the upgrade over 4 years younger Rui?

We will need to sent them Rui, Dlo and filler plus 2 FRPs. We would be left with no more assets to send.

Does JGrant take us over the hump as top 2-3 teams in NBA?

I would prefer wait until trading deadline and use Dlo as expiring if he struggles. Soon JGrant will become at best neutral contract.