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[SlimShady83]

Man Rob should just pull the trigger on the Grant trade give them 2FRP's. Rui/Dlo 2 pics, at this rate gonna get nothing or very little Inreturn for DLO anyway.

JGrant salary left:



We will need to sent them Rui, Dlo and filler plus 2 FRPs. We would be left with no more assets to send.

If It requires Rui, Dlo + filler probably wouldn't do It, I thought the trade was - Rui/Dlo + 2 pics that's It... I would do that... But If it's another filler - Gabe etc? I probably wouldn't do It

But like I said above, I think Lakers might end up losing DLO for nothing OR get very little In return for him and I can see It now when that happens everyone start complaining about It - why didn't Rob/we trade for Grant etc haha

[LakersSoul]

Man Rob should just pull the trigger on the Grant trade give them 2FRP's. Rui/Dlo 2 pics, at this rate gonna get nothing or very little Inreturn for DLO anyway.

JGrant salary left:



We will need to sent them Rui, Dlo and filler plus 2 FRPs. We would be left with no more assets to send.

If It requires Rui, Dlo + filler probably wouldn't do It, I thought the trade was - Rui/Dlo + 2 pics that's It... I would do that... But If it's another filler - Gabe etc? I probably wouldn't do It

But like I said above, I think Lakers might end up losing DLO for nothing OR get very little In return for him and I can see It now when that happens everyone start complaining about It - why didn't Rob/we trade for Grant etc haha

Rui, Dlo plus 2FRPs for Grant works.

But do we want to do it and give up our last bit of assets? I would prefer us see how we gel and see how well Rui plays under JJ before dumping them for an aging 3rd option, Grant.

I would love to see the following closing roster:

AR
Max
Knecht4
Bron
AD

If we perform well, then go all in like Dallas and trade 1 FRP for wing help like PJ Washington AND 1 FRP for a bruising backup Center.

[SlimShady83]

I would love to see the following closing roster:

AR
Max
Knecht4
Bron
AD

I actually like this line up. I'm not sold on Knecht20. 20 is for 20ppg hehe, wishful thinking?

Not sure about him starting, just yet, but I'm sure he'll get games where he does start. Just not sure every game yet

[LakersSoul]

I would love to see the following closing roster:

AR
Max
Knecht4
Bron
AD

I actually like this line up. I'm not sold on Knecht20. 20 is for 20ppg hehe, wishful thinking?

Not sure about him starting, just yet, but I'm sure he'll get games where he does start. Just not sure every game yet

You surround Bron and AD with great shooters that are not horrible on D. In fact K4 and Max plus AR are pretty athletic esp K4.

Not at the start but give minutes, teach and that could be the closing rotation at end of season. Then guys like Dlo, Rui, Gabe COULD be potential trading bait during trading deadline if we need to upgrade esp as bruising center.

[loveshaq007]

skip on grant if it requires any pick

trade Dlo, vando, wood, lewis, a unprotected FRP, and another FRP swaps to Utah for Lauri

take Wendell with TPE and FRP swap.

[loveshaq007]

skip on grant if it requires any pick

trade Dlo, vando, wood, lewis, a unprotected FRP, and another FRP swaps to Utah for Lauri

take Wendell with TPE and FRP swap.

[DanishLakerFan]

I know. It just sucks to see quality players sign for min. deals in with other contenders and i think.......

Well, you and I disagree drastically with the state of this team....but just maybe there's a little truth hiding from you in that statement? Maybe these players don't see us as a contender?

Lebron opted out in an effort to give the Lakers a little more flexibility. Made it known to the FO (and other players) he'd take less if the right guys came along. Seems like a strange move to make for a contender, no? But either way....there was zero interest. DLo opted in, cause his agent (and the Laker FO) have been shopping him for almost a year, and there is zero interest out there.

Take a step back...and ignore all the things I've said....and just look at what happened! There's a reality here. This team has nothing of value to the league except: AD - their future picks. You can maybe throw Lebron in there...to the right team, but he'd have to sign off on it, and even that would be fairly specific...as Lebron himself has made it abundantly clear that there's an end to all this coming soon.

Call me a jerk...call me a pessimist...fine. Then YOU explain this offseason.

You for sure is a pessimist.

I'm not going to defend the Lakers' front office. In my opinion Jeanie Buss is among the worst owners in the league and she's done a horrible job for a very long time and essentially wasted the final years of both Kobe's and Lebron’s career.

That said, i still think Lebron and AD are top 10 players and the best duo in the league, which i think they show in the olympics. If the Lakers play their cards right, they can absolutely be in position to win a title over the next couple of seasons, because it's not just about being able to beat Boston on paper. It's also about being within striking distance year after year. Just look at Dallas, who were projected to be worse than LA coming into the 2023-24 season. They hit on a rookie and made a timely trade for PJ, and made the finals. I think LA could have beaten Dallas btw.

As for this offseason i think its important to look at the context. The Lakers are trying to find a balance between avoiding 2nd apron, making moves that actually improve the team while not giving up the entire future. Not an easy task. I had hoped LA could have done something, but at the same time i dont think they need to rush into anything because keeping continuity and having a coach who isn’t an idiot is a good place to start.

[Godfather13]

If It requires Rui, Dlo + filler probably wouldn't do It, I thought the trade was - Rui/Dlo + 2 pics that's It... I would do that... But If it's another filler - Gabe etc? I probably wouldn't do It

But like I said above, I think Lakers might end up losing DLO for nothing OR get very little In return for him and I can see It now when that happens everyone start complaining about It - why didn't Rob/we trade for Grant etc haha

Rui, Dlo plus 2FRPs for Grant works.

But do we want to do it and give up our last bit of assets? I would prefer us see how we gel and see how well Rui plays under JJ before dumping them for an aging 3rd option, Grant.

I would love to see the following closing roster:

AR
Max
Knecht4
Bron
AD

If we perform well, then go all in like Dallas and trade 1 FRP for wing help like PJ Washington AND 1 FRP for a bruising backup Center.[/quote]
2 picks + Rui, DLo is an insane overpay for a 30 year old whose chose to get shots up in Detroit rather than stay with an elite contender for all of his prime. If we letting Rui go, I would offer them 1 top 10 protected pick. That's it.

Rob is a useless POS, but walking away from that deal is a resounding W.

The depth concerns you highlight are very real, specially at PG. Since 2020, Lebron has been tapering off his playmaking / ball handling responsibility. 2023-24 is his lowest usage year since his rookie year. He simply can't do it for an extended period anymore.

We have like 6 SGs(Austin, Max, Knecht, Cam, Gabe, Bronny) who can't playmake or even be the primary ball handlers for an extended stretch. Austin turns into a turnover machine if he's asked to fulfil PG duties, and the rest of them aren't even serious shout outs for the job.

[Pointgod]

This is the position that Rob has put us in. Smh Lakers are looking desparate

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[Anderson Hunt]

This is the position that Rob has put us in. Smh Lakers are looking desparate

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Yeah, this isn't hard to tell at all. I mentioned this last week:

Chicago wanted two firsts for Caruso, too. Neither OKC or POR are getting two firsts for their guys.

POR is bargaining. They are driving an extra hard bargain because it's the Lakers, and they smell their desperation, but Portland doesn't have the leverage they think they have.

Grant's contract isn't good. They'll eventually settle on one first and one serviceable rotation player, I, for one, hope it's not the Lakers.

[loveshaq007]

they should thank us if they are getting to shed extra salary over the next few years for taking on Grant. I will be mad if we have to give them even one first round pick. That's bull crap.

If healthy, we are in a definitely in a much better situation than last year. Utah has to be our best target for a trade. If we are trying to trade with Portland. I don't understand why Simons is not in discussion. love that kid!

Simons and Robert Williams for Dlo, Vando, gabe, Maxwell, and wood. I wouldn't be mad if there was a FRP swap in there, as well.

[loveshaq007]

they should thank us if they are getting to shed extra salary over the next few years for taking on Grant. I will be mad if we have to give them even one first round pick. That's bull crap.

If healthy, we are in a definitely in a much better situation than last year. Utah has to be our best target for a trade. If we are trying to trade with Portland. I don't understand why Simons is not in discussion. love that kid!

Simons and Robert Williams for Dlo, Vando, gabe, Maxwell, and wood. I wouldn't be mad if there was a FRP swap in there, as well.

I'd also do vando, gabe, Maxwell, wood and a FRP swap for sexton and Kessler

[SlimShady83]

Brandon Ingram - Get It done Rob

[tamaraw08]

they should thank us if they are getting to shed extra salary over the next few years for taking on Grant. I will be mad if we have to give them even one first round pick. That's bull crap.

If healthy, we are in a definitely in a much better situation than last year. Utah has to be our best target for a trade. If we are trying to trade with Portland. I don't understand why Simons is not in discussion. love that kid!

Simons and Robert Williams for Dlo, Vando, gabe, Maxwell, and wood. I wouldn't be mad if there was a FRP swap in there, as well.

If you love Simons like I do, I'm betting you Portland love that kid too, so I don't think a FRP swap and fillers would get it done.
Rob is hoping these GMs that have assets he like, would lower their asking price by the trade deadline, and that includes the Nets, Wizards too.

[Up-And-Coming]

In terms of remaining free agents Cedi Osman is the best value left imo, especially if we end up trading one of our wings. Cedi is not a tweener and has quality size at the 3 position standing 6'7 w/ a 6'11 wingspan and 230 pounds. He's in his prime at 29 and already has rapport w/ Lebron when they were in Cleveland. He can do a little bit of everything and doesn't have any huge weaknesses (not a lockdown defender but not a liability either, he's solid) and I think he can be slotted as a 16-20 mpg backup 3 on a winning team today. He's better than Cam Reddish and even arguably better all-around than Taurean Prince was.

[Godfather13]

This is the position that Rob has put us in. Smh Lakers are looking desparate

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It's not Rob, it's Jeanie. Rob's a puppet GM for PR purposes.

[Godfather13]

they should thank us if they are getting to shed extra salary over the next few years for taking on Grant. I will be mad if we have to give them even one first round pick. That's bull crap.

If healthy, we are in a definitely in a much better situation than last year. Utah has to be our best target for a trade. If we are trying to trade with Portland. I don't understand why Simons is not in discussion. love that kid!

Simons and Robert Williams for Dlo, Vando, gabe, Maxwell, and wood. I wouldn't be mad if there was a FRP swap in there, as well.

Cos we won't be able to afford him with our 2 picks.

Rob Williams has played 41 games in 2 years. I think his time in the league might be done after his current contract.

[Godfather13]

In terms of remaining free agents Cedi Osman is the best value left imo, especially if we end up trading one of our wings. Cedi is not a tweener and has quality size at the 3 position standing 6'7 w/ a 6'11 wingspan and 230 pounds. He's in his prime at 29 and already has rapport w/ Lebron when they were in Cleveland. He can do a little bit of everything and doesn't have any huge weaknesses (not a lockdown defender but not a liability either, he's solid) and I think he can be slotted as a 16-20 mpg backup 3 on a winning team today. He's better than Cam Reddish and even arguably better all-around than Taurean Prince was.

I love Cedi man. Immediately becomes our 4th most reliable playoffs player after Reaves.

[Landsberger]

This is the position that Rob has put us in. Smh Lakers are looking desparate

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It's not Rob, it's Jeanie. Rob's a puppet GM for PR purposes.

I'm no defender of Jeanie what so ever here... but let's not forget that LeBron is here... and FA's not coming here and trades not materializing have as much to do with him as they do Jeanie.

We're not a single "3rd star" away and most players in their prime know that.

We'll get an over the hill "star" who will come and and create chemistry issues (think Westbrook) again. Hopefully it only costs of half the roster and 2 or 3 first rounders.

[Anderson Hunt]

In terms of remaining free agents Cedi Osman is the best value left imo, especially if we end up trading one of our wings. Cedi is not a tweener and has quality size at the 3 position standing 6'7 w/ a 6'11 wingspan and 230 pounds. He's in his prime at 29 and already has rapport w/ Lebron when they were in Cleveland. He can do a little bit of everything and doesn't have any huge weaknesses (not a lockdown defender but not a liability either, he's solid) and I think he can be slotted as a 16-20 mpg backup 3 on a winning team today. He's better than Cam Reddish and even arguably better all-around than Taurean Prince was.

Even though he technically just retired, I'd rather have Gordon Hayward than Osman. I think he can be coaxed to come back.

After trading Russell, Hachimura, Vanderbilt, Vincent, and Hayes for LaVine, Williams III, and Torrey Craig, it opens up two roster spots to bring in Hayward and give him a starting spot:

PG - James
SG - Christie
C --- Davis
PF - Hayward
SF - LaVine
(Reaves, Knecht, and Williams III off the bench with Reddish, Schifino, and Craig fighting for 9th man minutes)

I think Hayward comes out of retirement if promised a starting spot with James, LaVine, and Davis.

Essentially ...
Russell for LaVine
Hachimura for Hayward
Vanderbilt for Williams III 
Vincent for Craig 
Hayes for Biyombo (min signing)