2024 Paris Olympics General (non-Basketball/Track & Field) Discussion Thread

Aside from basketball, which Olympic sports are you enjoying the most?

Track and Field
69
35%
Swimming
32
16%
Diving
3
2%
Gymnastics
17
9%
Soccer/Football
10
5%
Tennis
15
8%
Golf
2
1%
Volleyball (beach and/or indoor)
17
9%
Boxing/Martial Arts/Wrestling
9
5%
Other (surfing, table tennis, rugby, handball, field hockey, water polo, fencing, cycling, skating, shooting, weightlifting, boat stuff, horse stuff, weird stuff)
23
12%
 
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Post#341 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Wed Jul 31, 2024 9:15 pm

_jin wrote:I wouldnt mind if american athletes decided to win some gold medals. I know most of our medals come in the 2nd week but still, 4 golds after almost 5 days of competition must be an all time low.

Some of the events are wild. Most of the events that American can medal in have such long competitions pools.
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Post#342 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Wed Jul 31, 2024 9:16 pm

bisme37 wrote:I feel like crap today and thought about trying to power through but instead I decided to lean into it haha. So I played hooky and I'm having an old school sick day on the couch with the Olympics on. Kinda nice.

Hope you start feeling better.
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Post#343 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Wed Jul 31, 2024 9:18 pm

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_jin wrote:I wouldnt mind if american athletes decided to win some gold medals. I know most of our medals come in the 2nd week but still, 4 golds after almost 5 days of competition must be an all time low.

Swimming team has been disappointing, but that was expected before the Olympics.

Yeah, once Bob Bowman (Michael Phelps long time coach) decided to let the swim team know that he is leaving to coach the French team, 100 days before the Olympics,I think that threw them for a loop. They haven’t been the same.
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Post#344 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Wed Jul 31, 2024 9:27 pm

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_jin wrote:I wouldnt mind if american athletes decided to win some gold medals. I know most of our medals come in the 2nd week but still, 4 golds after almost 5 days of competition must be an all time low.


There are some countries which pay almost $800k for a gold medal. The United States pays $40k.

They offer that much because they don’t pay out that much. You’d be surprised that the bigger counties do not offer all that much. Here is a Wikipedia list
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incentives_for_Olympic_medalists_by_country

I couldn’t find China but there are plenty of countries that offer less than America.

The IOC said that they would also pay medalist. So far it is $50k for gold medalist but they haven’t said how much for silver and bronze.
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Post#345 » by msmoore66 » Wed Jul 31, 2024 9:33 pm

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G R E Y wrote:Wow so there's not even an alternative ready??

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Well it happened. Nobody can really know if they forced it or if the levels were within the norms. The heatwave from yesterday and the resulting storm and rain in the evening probably helped but I'm clearly not an expert. Emma Lombardi who finished 4th in the women race said she wasnt worried because the levels were much lower than what you'd find in a public pool anyway.

I woke up in time to see Cassandre Beaugrand win gold for France in a dominating fashion. She's already very popular in France, I guess because she's very pretty, and her popularity is gonna skyrocket in a pinch.

The men's race was amazing, what a finish from UK's Alex Yee who had a 20 seconds deficit 2kms away from the finish line but managed to beat NZ's Wilde who had a total breakdown in the last kilometer.


Hell of a finish in the men's race. That was probably the most emotionally draining race I've watched (obvious national investment, plus I've met Hayden a few times, very chill humble guy - watch his post race interview if you can find it). Yee is a machine, think Hayden ran the race to near perfection, knowing what it would take to beat Alex on the run and nearly executing it to perfection.

Those two finally had a clear battle at the front at a major which was great to see (Commonwealth Games Hayden got a 15sec penalty to serve right at the end of the run with Alex running through).

Both are entering their prime so I expect some huge contests through the next 4 years and into LA. Both could be Olympic athletes in the 5/10k too I reckon.
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Post#346 » by msmoore66 » Wed Jul 31, 2024 9:34 pm

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
_jin wrote:I wouldnt mind if american athletes decided to win some gold medals. I know most of our medals come in the 2nd week but still, 4 golds after almost 5 days of competition must be an all time low.


There are some countries which pay almost $800k for a gold medal. The United States pays $40k.

They offer that much because they don’t pay out that much. You’d be surprised that the bigger counties do not offer all that much. Here is a Wikipedia list
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incentives_for_Olympic_medalists_by_country

I couldn’t find China but there are plenty of countries that offer less than America.

The IOC said that they would also pay medalist. So far it is $50k for gold medalist but they haven’t said how much for silver and bronze.


NZ, GB and a couple of the Scandinavian counties offer 0 :o
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Post#347 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Wed Jul 31, 2024 9:42 pm

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ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
There are some countries which pay almost $800k for a gold medal. The United States pays $40k.

They offer that much because they don’t pay out that much. You’d be surprised that the bigger counties do not offer all that much. Here is a Wikipedia list
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incentives_for_Olympic_medalists_by_country

I couldn’t find China but there are plenty of countries that offer less than America.

The IOC said that they would also pay medalist. So far it is $50k for gold medalist but they haven’t said how much for silver and bronze.


NZ, GB and a couple of the Scandinavian counties offer 0 :o

Some of the amounts aren’t updated or unknown.
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Post#348 » by msmoore66 » Wed Jul 31, 2024 9:47 pm

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:
msmoore66 wrote:
ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:They offer that much because they don’t pay out that much. You’d be surprised that the bigger counties do not offer all that much. Here is a Wikipedia list
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incentives_for_Olympic_medalists_by_country

I couldn’t find China but there are plenty of countries that offer less than America.

The IOC said that they would also pay medalist. So far it is $50k for gold medalist but they haven’t said how much for silver and bronze.


NZ, GB and a couple of the Scandinavian counties offer 0 :o

Some of the amounts aren’t updated or unknown.


Yeah I have done a bit more digging and it looks like we paid $60k (NZD, so apx $30k USD) for a gold at Tokyo. But does appear GB just pays funding to medal hopes vs rewarding the actual fact.
"According to the report, Team GB does not pay out bonuses, instead providing grants for athletes before the games to maximise their chances of winning."
That said, a lot of territories don't disclose anyway.
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Post#349 » by _jin » Wed Jul 31, 2024 9:52 pm

Leon Marchand is the MVP of the Olympics. 3 gold medals and 3 olympics records in a slow pool. That finish for the 200m butterfly win is the stuff of legend. No swimmer has ever won gold in breaststroke and a medal in another stroke, breaststroke swimmers are usually specialists. And he can still win a couple more.
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Post#350 » by msmoore66 » Wed Jul 31, 2024 9:58 pm

_jin wrote:Leon Marchand is the MVP of the Olympics. 3 gold medals and 3 olympics records in a slow pool. That finish for the 200m butterfly win is the stuff of legend. No swimmer has ever won gold in breaststroke and a medal in another stroke, breaststroke swimmers are usually specialists. And he can still win a couple more.


Absolute machine eh. Funny how the generational talents in swimming pop up like this, Leon and then Phelps et al.
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Post#351 » by Apz » Wed Jul 31, 2024 10:31 pm

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msmoore66 wrote:
NZ, GB and a couple of the Scandinavian counties offer 0 :o

Some of the amounts aren’t updated or unknown.


Yeah I have done a bit more digging and it looks like we paid $60k (NZD, so apx $30k USD) for a gold at Tokyo. But does appear GB just pays funding to medal hopes vs rewarding the actual fact.
"According to the report, Team GB does not pay out bonuses, instead providing grants for athletes before the games to maximise their chances of winning."
That said, a lot of territories don't disclose anyway.


Dont think sweden have it either, if they do it aint much. They mainly put their money into helping talents and those that are going. Like the swddish guy that got silver in the rifle shooting. No pure money but they have given him enough so he could go down to 80% at his work, freeing up another day for him to train on. Most of the stuff in the olympics doesnt really pay, so i would say a large amount of the athletes have normal jobs. For those an extra free day from work each week to get more training in probably helps towards the medals more then knowing there is a cashprice if u win. Its more like sponsoring.When i did my military duty a pretty good dude called dafgård that did, im gonna guess here, decathlon or whatever its called when u do the 10 things. He lived on the base and trained there.

Im pretty sure each country gets money and how they want to spend them is up to them
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Post#352 » by Un4given » Wed Jul 31, 2024 10:32 pm

I'm not really a fan of women tennis, but Vekić - Kostyuk match was really a nail-biter. Hopefully Donna can recuperate for the semis since match is starting in less then 20 hours. I don't really understand why was not possible to add a single rest day in the schedule of once in a four year tournament.
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Post#353 » by msmoore66 » Wed Jul 31, 2024 10:55 pm

Apz wrote:
msmoore66 wrote:
ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:Some of the amounts aren’t updated or unknown.


Yeah I have done a bit more digging and it looks like we paid $60k (NZD, so apx $30k USD) for a gold at Tokyo. But does appear GB just pays funding to medal hopes vs rewarding the actual fact.
"According to the report, Team GB does not pay out bonuses, instead providing grants for athletes before the games to maximise their chances of winning."
That said, a lot of territories don't disclose anyway.


Dont think sweden have it either, if they do it aint much. They mainly put their money into helping talents and those that are going. Like the swddish guy that got silver in the rifle shooting. No pure money but they have given him enough so he could go down to 80% at his work, freeing up another day for him to train on. Most of the stuff in the olympics doesnt really pay, so i would say a large amount of the athletes have normal jobs. For those an extra free day from work each week to get more training in probably helps towards the medals more then knowing there is a cashprice if u win. Its more like sponsoring.When i did my military duty a pretty good dude called dafgård that did, im gonna guess here, decathlon or whatever its called when u do the 10 things. He lived on the base and trained there.

Im pretty sure each country gets money and how they want to spend them is up to them


Yeah sounds about right. Some countries simply have more money to throw around too. My kids would be able to rep NZ or Taiwan if they ever made it to that level and it would be financially better to go the Taiwan route, but growing up in NZ would probably want to rep there.

Also individual sports bodies offer up incentives. Think World Athletics are paying $50k per gold Medal in addition to whatever the athlete gets from country etc.
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Post#354 » by California Gold » Thu Aug 1, 2024 4:21 am

Not gonna lie, these Oympics haven't felt as great watching on TV as Rio, London or Beijing. I hope LA puts on a great show in 2028, hoping to go to some different matches.

With all the resources we have I expect a grand show.
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Post#355 » by AdagioPace » Thu Aug 1, 2024 11:41 am

I'm glad Angela Carini quit the farcical boxing match after 40 seconds. I'm so sorry for her because she wasted years for this moment. I hope the IOC will reconsider the lax criteria for inclusion. I consider myself a left-winger in my country but this was too ridiculous to accept.
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Post#356 » by G R E Y » Thu Aug 1, 2024 12:49 pm

^EXACTLY!!!

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This is **** outrageous. IOC is completely culpable here in their decision to do away with the ONE cheek swab and have competitors fairly compete in the right sex category.
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Statement made by the International Boxing Association regarding Athletes Disqualifications in World Boxing Championships 2023

As stated, the International Boxing Association (IBA) feels it appropriate at this prevalent time, to address recent media statements regarding those athletes Lin Yu-ting and Imane Khelif, particularly regarding their participation in the Paris Olympic Games 2024.

We wish to make the following points in these regards:

On 24 March 2023, IBA disqualified athletes Lin Yu-ting and Imane Khelif from the IBA Women’s World Boxing Championships New Delhi 2023. This disqualification was a result of their failure to meet the eligibility criteria for participating in the women’s competition, as set and laid out in the IBA Regulations. This decision, made after a meticulous review, was extremely important and necessary to uphold the level of fairness and utmost integrity of the competition.

Point to note, the athletes did not undergo a testosterone examination but were subject to a separate and recognized test, whereby the specifics remain confidential. This test conclusively indicated that both athletes did not meet the required necessary eligibility criteria and were found to have competitive advantages over other female competitors.

The decision made by IBA on 24 March 2023, was subsequently ratified by the IBA Board of Directors on 25 March 2023. The official record of this decision can be accessed on the IBA website here IBA Board of Directors Meeting Minutes.

The disqualification was based on two tests conducted on both athletes as follows:

Test performed during the IBA Women’s World Boxing Championships in Istanbul 2022.
Test performed during the IBA Women’s World Boxing Championships in New Delhi 2023.

For clarification

Lin Yu-ting did not appeal the IBA’s decision to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS), thus rendering the decision legally binding.
Imane Khelif initially appealed the decision to CAS but withdrew the appeal during the process, also making the IBA decision legally binding.

Our Committees have rigorously reviewed and endorsed the decision made during the World Championships. While IBA remains committed to ensuring competitive fairness in all of our events, we express concern over the inconsistent application of eligibility criteria by other sporting organizations, including those overseeing the Olympic Games. The IOC’s differing regulations on these matters, in which IBA is not involved, raise serious questions about both competitive fairness and athletes’ safety.

For clarification on why the IOC permits athletes with competitive advantages to compete in their events, we urge interested parties to seek answers directly from the IOC.

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Post#358 » by CBS7 » Thu Aug 1, 2024 1:10 pm

G R E Y wrote:^EXACTLY!!!

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This is **** outrageous. IOC is completely culpable here in their decision to do away with the ONE cheek swab and have competitors fairly compete in the right sex category.


Is there any proof that Imane was born male or is biologically male? Genuinely asking. I know testosterone levels has been a point of controversy in the past, because some women just have naturally high testosterone levels.
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Post#359 » by G R E Y » Thu Aug 1, 2024 1:16 pm

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G R E Y wrote:^EXACTLY!!!

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This is **** outrageous. IOC is completely culpable here in their decision to do away with the ONE cheek swab and have competitors fairly compete in the right sex category.


Is there any proof that Imane was born male or is biologically male? Genuinely asking. I know testosterone levels has been a point of controversy in the past, because some women just have naturally high testosterone levels.

I've edited the post above to include the statement. IBF requires a sex test. Both boxers failed it and did not appeal/dropped it. IOC removed cheek swab sex test. And here we are. All that **** training and hopes dashed because of IOC's reprehensible negligence.
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Post#360 » by Jadoogar » Thu Aug 1, 2024 1:21 pm

does anyone know when the track and field events start?

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