2024 Olympic BASKETBALL Thread (Pt.3)

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Re: 2024 Olympic BASKETBALL Thread (Pt.3) 

Post#721 » by cdubbz » Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:22 pm

MrBigShot wrote:Kerr could've avoided all of this by playing tatum at least like 7 or 8 mins in the previous game. He's not a 6 ft defensive sieve, the guy is a tall, athletic wing who is versatile enough to play and guard multiple positions, and should never get a DNP with this roster.


When you say that it really makes it look more ridiculous that people are complaining about a DNP. Team USA needs to be selfless not caring about how many minutes, who starts, who gets how many shots etc.

I'm a Warrior fan and it stinks to see Steph get misused, but then I see Steph setting screens for others to get open, sacrificing some shots, and not looking for the spot light. He's playing a role that's needed.
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Post#722 » by ItsDanger » Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:24 pm

Wonder how much the Dream Team would have beat South Sudan by.
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Post#723 » by IceColdCubano » Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:29 pm

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MrBigShot wrote:Kerr could've avoided all of this by playing tatum at least like 7 or 8 mins in the previous game. He's not a 6 ft defensive sieve, the guy is a tall, athletic wing who is versatile enough to play and guard multiple positions, and should never get a DNP with this roster.

Quite honestly, Tatum isn't doing jack **** out there. Durant's better than him, Booker's now playing better than him, Jrue and White are no doubt better for this team than he is. You can maybe squint and see him starting at the 4 if you consider LeBron the 1, but it's not a particularly compelling case. They also don't need him to win.

In principle, he's a great player who should be getting time on this roster. In reality, with six 40-minute games, and with this roster construction and these coaching philosophies, it should not be a given that he plays.


Tatum is also not making it any better by not playing up to his standards. For a player that keeps getting touted as being really capable of playing many positions and doing all the little things he has struggled to put it together in this team. From all the exhibition games until know he continues to find himself almost last in +/- in all lineup combinations he's put into.

Just look at todays game, could have showed his versatility and given a big giant finger to Kerr but instead posted a -4 (+/-). If he cannot find ways to be serviceable off ball, he's going to continue to look bad unless he starts hitting his open jump shots.
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Re: 2024 Olympic BASKETBALL Thread (Pt.3) 

Post#724 » by Movics » Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:52 pm

ItsDanger wrote:Wonder how much the Dream Team would have beat South Sudan by.

I don’t know anything about South Sudan, but they’re in trouble.
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Post#725 » by KyRo23 » Thu Aug 1, 2024 12:16 am

ItsDanger wrote:Wonder how much the Dream Team would have beat South Sudan by.


Does South Sudan also get introduced to basketball 4 minutes before they play the Dream Team like the other teams they played?

Just kidding :D
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Post#726 » by celtxman » Thu Aug 1, 2024 12:21 am

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He won both games by 20, what else do you want?

So when he was winning the 20 point game against Serbia, why didn't Tatum play? You bench a first team All NBA player 3 years running, but let his Boi Curry go 1-9.....and his shooting was better than his defense. With all of the sanctimonious talk about sacrifice and doing the right thing, it's business as usual for Kerr.
Everyone who actually watched the game knows Curry had no business being out there.


As long as team USA win this does not matter

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Post#727 » by Mamba81p » Thu Aug 1, 2024 12:51 am

Lebron and curry were very poor today. Too much politics in this team. Maybe grant hill should have learned something from Jerry colangelo. When redd, prince and boozer were not playing in 2008 nobody was complaining. In blowouts there should be time for everyone, but in close games 3-4 guys will not play at all. Guys not playing means distractions, tension inside the team.
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Post#728 » by Karate Diop » Thu Aug 1, 2024 12:52 am

ItsDanger wrote:Wonder how much the Dream Team would have beat South Sudan by.


No guarantee they would have won. They never played against competition this good, and with referee bias against them instead of blatantly in favor of them certain players would struggle.
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Post#729 » by KyRo23 » Thu Aug 1, 2024 12:59 am

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ItsDanger wrote:Wonder how much the Dream Team would have beat South Sudan by.


No guarantee they would have won. They never played against competition this good, and with referee bias against them instead of blatantly in favor of them certain players would struggle.


Serbia beat Puerto Rico by 41 today. The Dream Team beat Puerto Rico by 38 in 1992... 2024 Serbia > Dream Team. Team USA beat Serbia by 20... 2024 Team USA must beat the Dream Team by 60. LETS GOOOOOO
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Re: 2024 Olympic BASKETBALL Thread (Pt.3) 

Post#730 » by LockoutSeason » Thu Aug 1, 2024 1:16 am

ItsDanger wrote:Wonder how much the Dream Team would have beat South Sudan by.


What makes you think they would win?
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Post#731 » by TheGOATRises007 » Thu Aug 1, 2024 1:18 am

LockoutSeason wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Wonder how much the Dream Team would have beat South Sudan by.


What makes you think they would win?


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Post#732 » by Wingy » Thu Aug 1, 2024 1:18 am

Mamba81p wrote:Lebron and curry were very poor today. Too much politics in this team. Maybe grant hill should have learned something from Jerry colangelo. When redd, prince and boozer were not playing in 2008 nobody was complaining. In blowouts there should be time for everyone, but in close games 3-4 guys will not play at all. Guys not playing means distractions, tension inside the team.


Definition of insanity. It’s really mind-boggling.
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Post#733 » by TheGOATRises007 » Thu Aug 1, 2024 1:19 am

Wingy wrote:
Mamba81p wrote:Lebron and curry were very poor today. Too much politics in this team. Maybe grant hill should have learned something from Jerry colangelo. When redd, prince and boozer were not playing in 2008 nobody was complaining. In blowouts there should be time for everyone, but in close games 3-4 guys will not play at all. Guys not playing means distractions, tension inside the team.


Definition of insanity. It’s really mind-boggling.


Tbf, the bench now is much deeper than in 2008.

Redd, Prince and Boozer are much much worse than Embiid, Tatum and Haliburton(the guys who've been DNP'd thus far).
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Post#734 » by LV-Suns » Thu Aug 1, 2024 1:21 am

Mamba81p wrote:Lebron and curry were very poor today. Too much politics in this team. Maybe grant hill should have learned something from Jerry colangelo. When redd, prince and boozer were not playing in 2008 nobody was complaining. In blowouts there should be time for everyone, but in close games 3-4 guys will not play at all. Guys not playing means distractions, tension inside the team.

Do we actually know if anyone is complaining or fans are complaining their favorite players are not getting minutes? I can’t imagine the team being upset considering how well they have looked both games.
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Post#735 » by Wingy » Thu Aug 1, 2024 1:32 am

TheGOATRises007 wrote:
Wingy wrote:
Mamba81p wrote:Lebron and curry were very poor today. Too much politics in this team. Maybe grant hill should have learned something from Jerry colangelo. When redd, prince and boozer were not playing in 2008 nobody was complaining. In blowouts there should be time for everyone, but in close games 3-4 guys will not play at all. Guys not playing means distractions, tension inside the team.


Definition of insanity. It’s really mind-boggling.


Tbf, the bench now is much deeper than in 2008.

Redd, Prince and Boozer are much much worse than Embiid, Tatum and Haliburton(the guys who've been DNP'd thus far).


I think you may be missing the point.
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Post#736 » by Kawaii Leonard » Thu Aug 1, 2024 2:13 am

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Shameful. The flagrants on Rui were soft af too
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Re: 2024 Olympic BASKETBALL Thread (Pt.3) 

Post#737 » by Mamba81p » Thu Aug 1, 2024 2:19 am

LV-Suns wrote:
Mamba81p wrote:Lebron and curry were very poor today. Too much politics in this team. Maybe grant hill should have learned something from Jerry colangelo. When redd, prince and boozer were not playing in 2008 nobody was complaining. In blowouts there should be time for everyone, but in close games 3-4 guys will not play at all. Guys not playing means distractions, tension inside the team.

Do we actually know if anyone is complaining or fans are complaining their favorite players are not getting minutes? I can’t imagine the team being upset considering how well they have looked both games.


Embiid and Tatum didn't look very happy when not playing, but yes most of the drama has been in the media so far. Usually we find out about internal issues after the tournament.

If everyone is on board then all is good, but imo that would include LeBron and curry being benched when playing like today. Embiid is theoretically the best NBA player on the team, and he played 0 minutes, a decision that I welcome. If he can do it then everyone else should accept it.
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Post#738 » by RookieStar » Thu Aug 1, 2024 2:28 am

Kawaii Leonard wrote:Image

Shameful. The flagrants on Rui were soft af too


Yeah... home cooking. Everyone knows it.

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Re: 2024 Olympic BASKETBALL Thread (Pt.3) 

Post#739 » by AI_Efficiency » Thu Aug 1, 2024 2:51 am

Mamba81p wrote:
LV-Suns wrote:
Mamba81p wrote:Lebron and curry were very poor today. Too much politics in this team. Maybe grant hill should have learned something from Jerry colangelo. When redd, prince and boozer were not playing in 2008 nobody was complaining. In blowouts there should be time for everyone, but in close games 3-4 guys will not play at all. Guys not playing means distractions, tension inside the team.

Do we actually know if anyone is complaining or fans are complaining their favorite players are not getting minutes? I can’t imagine the team being upset considering how well they have looked both games.


Embiid and Tatum didn't look very happy when not playing, but yes most of the drama has been in the media so far. Usually we find out about internal issues after the tournament.

If everyone is on board then all is good, but imo that would include LeBron and curry being benched when playing like today. Embiid is theoretically the best NBA player on the team, and he played 0 minutes, a decision that I welcome. If he can do it then everyone else should accept it.

For what it’s worth, I just saw a snoop dog interview where he was saying that even though Embiid didn’t play a minute, he still had a great attitude and was supporting everyone. I tend to think as long as the team is winning, everyone will be in good spirits. I guess if we benched curry, Tatum or whoever, and the US lost or something there could be some upset feelings.
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Re: 2024 Olympic BASKETBALL Thread (Pt.3) 

Post#740 » by giberish » Thu Aug 1, 2024 3:16 am

MrBigShot wrote:Kerr could've avoided all of this by playing tatum at least like 7 or 8 mins in the previous game. He's not a 6 ft defensive sieve, the guy is a tall, athletic wing who is versatile enough to play and guard multiple positions, and should never get a DNP with this roster.


It's really tough to give 12 guys meaningful minutes. Much easier to just go 2-deep rather than have several guys playing limited token minutes. If you cycle through 6 guys getting 1 DNP in the group stage it isn't that big of a deal.

Granted, there's a strong case that Tatum should be in the 6 who didn't get the game off (you can justify Embiid on health). But it's not that big of a deal.

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