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Post#1561 » by nzahir » Wed Jul 31, 2024 2:34 am

zimpy27 wrote:I would love Lakers to trade for Landale, should be pretty cheap.

Also Rockets don't really have space for Eason either. What other Rockets players would be of interest?

Why dont they have space for Eason?

Is Landale big enough or a good enough defender? His advanced metrics aren't bad it looks like

Also his contract shouldnt be viewed at as a positive if guys like Dlo, Rui, and Vando aren't positives

There are a lot of bigs and we should be able to get one

Kessler
WCJ
Duop Reath
Landale
Sharpe

I would say Robert Williams, but too injury prone for me and not worth the $$

What would Houston even want for Eason and and Landale?
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Post#1562 » by zimpy27 » Wed Jul 31, 2024 3:43 am

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zimpy27 wrote:I would love Lakers to trade for Landale, should be pretty cheap.

Also Rockets don't really have space for Eason either. What other Rockets players would be of interest?

Why dont they have space for Eason?

Is Landale big enough or a good enough defender? His advanced metrics aren't bad it looks like

Also his contract shouldnt be viewed at as a positive if guys like Dlo, Rui, and Vando aren't positives

There are a lot of bigs and we should be able to get one

Kessler
WCJ
Duop Reath
Landale
Sharpe

I would say Robert Williams, but too injury prone for me and not worth the $$

What would Houston even want for Eason and and Landale?


They have Jabari, Cam, Amen, Brooks at the SF/PF spots. They don't have much playing time and he's probably the squeeze out.
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Post#1563 » by Tim Lehrbach » Wed Jul 31, 2024 4:06 am

Unless the Blazers have a way of moving Ayton or RWIII -- and I happen to believe they're stuck with both -- Reath should be very available. Jaxson Hayes (waived before reporting to Portland) and a second rounder or two gets it done, IMO.
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Post#1564 » by nzahir » Wed Jul 31, 2024 4:08 am

zimpy27 wrote:
nzahir wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:I would love Lakers to trade for Landale, should be pretty cheap.

Also Rockets don't really have space for Eason either. What other Rockets players would be of interest?

Why dont they have space for Eason?

Is Landale big enough or a good enough defender? His advanced metrics aren't bad it looks like

Also his contract shouldnt be viewed at as a positive if guys like Dlo, Rui, and Vando aren't positives

There are a lot of bigs and we should be able to get one

Kessler
WCJ
Duop Reath
Landale
Sharpe

I would say Robert Williams, but too injury prone for me and not worth the $$

What would Houston even want for Eason and and Landale?


They have Jabari, Cam, Amen, Brooks at the SF/PF spots. They don't have much playing time and he's probably the squeeze out.

Ehhh, thats just 3 guys

But if he was available, he is a guy I would be interested in

But what would Hou want/accept?

Vincent and JHS?

Rui, Vando, and Reddish/Hayes+2029 1st with very little protections for Grant? Can add some 2nds if needed, but thats fair value imo

Reaves, Christie, Grant, Bron, AD
Dlo, Knecht, Eason, Wood, Landale

Vet mins for guys like Fultz and another wing?

Are there any shooting guard targets that make sense if Christie isn't ready to be that 2 way guy?

Assuming in deep playoff runs we can only close with 1 of Reaves or Dlo (mostly going with Reaves unless Dlo is hot), we will need a guard next to that guy

Unsure if Vando (or Eason) is that guy

Okoro is somewhat interesting even though he is more of a 3
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Post#1565 » by zimpy27 » Wed Jul 31, 2024 5:38 am

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zimpy27 wrote:
nzahir wrote:Why dont they have space for Eason?

Is Landale big enough or a good enough defender? His advanced metrics aren't bad it looks like

Also his contract shouldnt be viewed at as a positive if guys like Dlo, Rui, and Vando aren't positives

There are a lot of bigs and we should be able to get one

Kessler
WCJ
Duop Reath
Landale
Sharpe

I would say Robert Williams, but too injury prone for me and not worth the $$

What would Houston even want for Eason and and Landale?


They have Jabari, Cam, Amen, Brooks at the SF/PF spots. They don't have much playing time and he's probably the squeeze out.

Ehhh, thats just 3 guys

But if he was available, he is a guy I would be interested in

But what would Hou want/accept?

Vincent and JHS?

Rui, Vando, and Reddish/Hayes+2029 1st with very little protections for Grant? Can add some 2nds if needed, but thats fair value imo

Reaves, Christie, Grant, Bron, AD
Dlo, Knecht, Eason, Wood, Landale

Vet mins for guys like Fultz and another wing?

Are there any shooting guard targets that make sense if Christie isn't ready to be that 2 way guy?

Assuming in deep playoff runs we can only close with 1 of Reaves or Dlo (mostly going with Reaves unless Dlo is hot), we will need a guard next to that guy

Unsure if Vando (or Eason) is that guy

Okoro is somewhat interesting even though he is more of a 3


Swap options should temp them, especially in a year with multiple FRPs
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Post#1566 » by trickshot » Wed Jul 31, 2024 9:34 pm

Satisfying to see Embiid benched. Let's not sugarcoat it, his comments about Lebron was butthurt thinking he would be the team centrepiece and star man. Showed himself to be a mercenary bringing that kind of selfish talk at a time the whole nation should be coming together. This isn't philly there's no me in the olympics.
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Post#1567 » by jalengreen » Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:23 pm

donnieme wrote:Satisfying to see Embiid benched. Let's not sugarcoat it, his comments about Lebron was butthurt thinking he would be the team centrepiece and star man. Showed himself to be a mercenary bringing that kind of selfish talk at a time the whole nation should be coming together. This isn't philly there's no me in the olympics.


I don't think it was that deep tbh
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Post#1568 » by TheGOATRises007 » Thu Aug 1, 2024 1:21 am

donnieme wrote:Satisfying to see Embiid benched. Let's not sugarcoat it, his comments about Lebron was butthurt thinking he would be the team centrepiece and star man. Showed himself to be a mercenary bringing that kind of selfish talk at a time the whole nation should be coming together. This isn't philly there's no me in the olympics.


The comments were unnecessary, but I don't think it's that deep as well.

I doubt he thinks of himself as the team's centerpiece.
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Post#1569 » by nzahir » Thu Aug 1, 2024 1:52 am

Seems like teams will want to play hardball with the Lakers

Going from Rui to a guy like Grant or Cam Johnson is worth a 1st with some light protections, not 2 1sts. You can argue to add in a couple 2nds or a swap

So if there is no big deal that makes sense, wait until Dec or the deadline

But what can't wait is a trade for a backup C

That can be done with some 2nds/swap and or JHS

If Utah would accept unprotecting the 27 1st (or going top 1 protected), JHS, and Hayes, would you guys do it?

Still have 2 1sts (I dont see us moving 2031 unless its for a star tbh), some 2nds, some swaps and salaries of Rui, Vando, Vincent, Dlo, and if we want guys like Christie, Knecht, Reaves (only moving in a deal for a true all star)

I would then look to sign Fultz or Hayward. Fultz is the better player, but a logjam at pg unless we move Dlo or Vincent

Dlo, Reaves, Vando, Bron, AD
Vincent, Christie, Cam/Hayward??, Rui, Kessler
Wood

We have 2 issues that I would love to get fixed but cant unless we make a bigger deal

1) Our depth is pretty weak at the back end. Guys like Max Lewis, Bronny, JHS, Hayes, and Reddish are negatives or just too young and not ready. And this is assuming guys like Christie and even Knecht can be in the rotation. For christ sake we may even need Christie to start and or play real minutes depending on the moves we make

2) I dont see why we have Vincent if Christie is supposed to be in that role.

An ideal off season would be making the big move we have to make and getting a backup C, but at a bare minimm its getting that backup C. Could then at least not get killed when AD sits and even let him be a helper at some points on D
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Post#1570 » by Mos_Heat » Thu Aug 1, 2024 4:21 am

Lebron can't jump at this point, even that 2 hand slam with a runaway he barely got up
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Post#1571 » by nzahir » Thu Aug 1, 2024 6:04 am

Mos_Heat wrote:Lebron can't jump at this point, even that 2 hand slam with a runaway he barely got up

Meh, hes looked solid in the olympics

You can still be a legit contender around him and AD, just need a better team

On a side note, any free agents left you guys want?

Fultz and Hayward would be nice to have

But I dont see a role for Fultz if Vincent is still here

Hayward won't have a big role unless we have a consolidation trade, but wing depth would be nice

I think we should see some more moves being made after Aug 6th and the Markennan situation is resolved (either staying put or gone before)
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Post#1572 » by tsherkin » Thu Aug 1, 2024 1:41 pm

Mos_Heat wrote:Lebron can't jump at this point, even that 2 hand slam with a runaway he barely got up


Didn't have to. He can still get up now and then, he just doesn't fly around blasting max vert all the time like he did when he was a teenager or in his early 20s. He definitely doesn't sky on the regular and I'm sure his max vert is lower than it used to be, but he can still get up a couple times a game for a block attempt, if you've noticed.
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Post#1573 » by nzahir » Thu Aug 1, 2024 10:05 pm

Well Hayward retired, so there goes that

Fultz is the best FA left

Ideal scenario now:

Get a backup C who can play a bit with AD maybe

Hope BKN or Portland move CamJ or Grant for just a 1st and maybe something small

If we could get Walker Kessler for unprotecting our 27 1st, a 28 swap with top 4 protections, Hayes, and Lewis. Would you guys do it?

Then see if we could make Rui, Vincent, JHS and a 29 1st with top 1 protections for Grant work. Maybe a 3rd team to give some 2nds for JHS?

Then have enough to sign Fultz and be under the 2nd appron

Reaves, Christie, Grant, Bron, AD
Dlo, Knecht, Vando, Wood, Kessler
Fultz, Reddish
Bronny

A bit low on guys, but if we sign anyone else I think we go into the 2nd appron. Can pick up a guy later in the year on a prorated deal and it may work though.

Cam Johnson makes things easier though salary wise

I do like that roster a lot though. Expecting a lot out of Christie there, but we may need to considering we paid him and we dont have a lot of larger guards.

Having Dlo as a guy who can come off the bench is nice since he wont be relied on to be a top 3-4 guy
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Post#1575 » by jalengreen » Thu Aug 8, 2024 11:02 pm

Apparently there's a "FIBA Summer Olympics Most Valuable Player" that was first awarded in 2004 (to Manu) and then never again until 2020 (to Durant). So seems a bit meaningless but here's hoping LeBron gets it; gotta think he's the favorite.
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Post#1576 » by Cavsfansince84 » Thu Aug 8, 2024 11:28 pm

This Olympics is likely LeBron's swansong in terms of how he's remembered. I think from a team perspective he knew going in this was his last chance to leave a mark. Arguably best player on a gold medal winning team at age 39.
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Post#1577 » by homecourtloss » Fri Aug 9, 2024 1:14 am

jalengreen wrote:Apparently there's a "FIBA Summer Olympics Most Valuable Player" that was first awarded in 2004 (to Manu) and then never again until 2020 (to Durant). So seems a bit meaningless but here's hoping LeBron gets it; gotta think he's the favorite.


What’s funny is that he has been from start to finish the United States is overall best player at 39 with all of these great players and they really hasn’t been that much said about it on this board (GB).I promise you that on this board if he had not done well, even at the age of 3, he would’ve been Massacred and you just know that there were 5-6 threads ready to be made live waiting for the loss to say it.
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Post#1578 » by jalengreen » Fri Aug 9, 2024 1:26 am

homecourtloss wrote:
jalengreen wrote:Apparently there's a "FIBA Summer Olympics Most Valuable Player" that was first awarded in 2004 (to Manu) and then never again until 2020 (to Durant). So seems a bit meaningless but here's hoping LeBron gets it; gotta think he's the favorite.


What’s funny is that he has been from start to finish the United States is overall best player at 39 with all of these great players and they really hasn’t been that much said about it on this board (GB).I promise you that on this board if he had not done well, even at the age of 3, he would’ve been Massacred and you just know that there were 5-6 threads ready to be made live waiting for the loss to say it.


I'd say this is pretty telling on its own

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Post#1579 » by homecourtloss » Fri Aug 9, 2024 1:49 am

jalengreen wrote:
homecourtloss wrote:
jalengreen wrote:Apparently there's a "FIBA Summer Olympics Most Valuable Player" that was first awarded in 2004 (to Manu) and then never again until 2020 (to Durant). So seems a bit meaningless but here's hoping LeBron gets it; gotta think he's the favorite.


What’s funny is that he has been from start to finish the United States is overall best player at 39 with all of these great players and they really hasn’t been that much said about it on this board (GB).I promise you that on this board if he had not done well, even at the age of 3, he would’ve been Massacred and you just know that there were 5-6 threads ready to be made live waiting for the loss to say it.


I'd say this is pretty telling on its own

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lessthanjake wrote: By playing in a way that prevents Kyrie from getting much impact, LeBron ensures that controlling for Kyrie has limited effect…
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Post#1580 » by tone wone » Fri Aug 9, 2024 1:49 am

God that was intense. The gold medal game in 2008 is comparable but this is the best us Olympic game I've seen.
SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:I don’t think LeBron was as good a point guard as Mo Williams for the point guard play not counting the scoring threat. In other words in a non shooting Rondo like role Mo Williams would be better than LeBron.

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