Tyus Jones thread

[NapoleonII]

Steals per foul? Huh, never seen that stat before.

Watch Tyus Jones get called for 30-40% more fouls (decreasing his steals) since he joined the Suns....

[bwgood77]

Steals per foul? Huh, never seen that stat before.

Watch Tyus Jones get called for 30-40% more fouls (decreasing his steals) since he joined the Suns....

I saw more steals than turnovers with Bridges, but never steals per foul.

[TASTIC]

I knew he and Allen were buds but didn't realise they won a title together at Duke, then 2 more seasons together in Memphis.

Very well spoken dude and sounds like (as the salary shows) winning is what is important to him.

Crazy to think we've got him for 1yr $3.3m when you see Kennard getting 1yr $11m from Memphis...

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[garrick]

I knew he and Allen were buds but didn't realise they won a title together at Duke, then 2 more seasons together in Memphis.

Very well spoken dude and sounds like (as the salary shows) winning is what is important to him.

Crazy to think we've got him for 1yr $3.3m when you see Kennard getting 1yr $11m from Memphis...

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It seems like he wants to showcase himself so some team next season will give him the chance to start instead of coming off the bench. Too bad it's probably a 1 year rental but I'll still take it.

[Book1Nation]

Can’t believe we got him for a vet min.

Feel bad for Monte Morris but thrilled as a Suns fan. Tyus Jones is a legit good player and will help this offense a lot.

Idk how everything will fit, seems like we’re a bit guard heavy, but it’s definitely better than last season and we also have a better coach.

[jcsunsfan]

A guard regular rotation of Tyus, Beale, Grayson, and Morris, with Okogie every once in a while is nice.

Book is now a SF.

[bigfoot]

What helped Phoenix win on the margins to sign Tyus Jones?
Bartelstein said the Suns and Mercury spent $2 million on family space in the arena. The franchises have added staffing for concierge services to help new hires and their partners look for houses and schools. It gets down to something as simple as helping them with a dinner reservation, Bartelstein said.

On Wednesday, Jones spoke at length about his fit on the court.

But he also mentioned that Phoenix’s resources made his family feel at home.

“Big family man, so you’re going to see my kids running around, you’re going to see my wife at every game, you’re going to see my mom in town,” he said. “But again, that was the feel that I got again, from Josh, from James, from Coach Bud and that’s why it was such an easy decision for me.”

https://arizonasports.com/story/3553167/suns-ceo-tyus-jones-signing-evidence-of-winning-on-margins/

Concierge service for players and their families. This is type of stuff Sarver would never do. Call and make a reservation for the family and cover the dinner costs more than likely. Get the family tickets to an event in town. No doubt.

Zhitting on Isbia needs to be re-evaluated

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

I wasn't able to post last week, so sorry for the late reaction.

I've been a huge Debbie about this coming season. I won't apologize for that - as we were constructed before this move, any reasonable person should have expected this team to **** the bed again.

Adding Tyus Jones is a 180-type move. I know he's not a superstar, but he's basically the exact player this team needed. He's arguably a top-10 PG in this league. With minutes, I expect we'll get production similar to what we got out of Chris Paul his last year with us - and the wins that went along with it. I can't believe we got him for next-to-nothing.

Assuming good health, suddenly, I think we're contenders. The difference Tyus Jones makes is simply monumental.

Concierge service for players and their families. This is type of stuff Sarver would never do. Call and make a reservation for the family and cover the dinner costs more than likely. Get the family tickets to an event in town. No doubt.

Zhitting on Isbia needs to be re-evaluated

Word. I've always wondered why owners didn't throw all the money they could at non-roster expenditures. Front office expenditures, player accomodations, etc. - none of it counts against the cap.

But the big win for Ishbia here (IMO) is showing that his "Big Bag" approach is working. With the way this man burns through cash, any player sitting across the table from Ish can be assured that if he says he will give you the bag next year (or the following year), he will - luxury tax or other circumstances be damned.

As for who should start... Tyus should start, and Booker is a 2 guard. Beal should come off the bench. Save your death lineup for crunch time as matchups allow.

For $50 million, Beal should be willing to come off the bench. I know it sounds strange, but I feel like the extraordinary compensation he is receiving should make him more willing to embrace that kind of role. We're paying him to take one for the team, because we need that from him for this team to be the best it can be. Ginobili was either the second or third best player on 4 Spurs championship teams - probably the most underrated player, and arguably the second-best SG, of his generation. His reward for sacrificing his whole career was RINGS.

Jones/Morris
Booker/Beal
Allen/O'Neal/Okogie
Durant/Bol
Nurkic/Plumlee

I like Gillespie as third PG on the roster. I don't like that 3 spot is manned by guys 6'5" and under - I would expect a trade to add a real wing at some point. Would like another 4/5 who can play - Nas Little would have a real opportunity to break out here if he has it in him, since he has the size and athleticism to play either forward spot.

But the bottom line is - we have the players now. Just have to stay healthy and make what small improvements we can to get over the top. We're in it.

Massive W for Ish. So glad to finally be IN on this season!!

[sunsbg]

I can't believe we got him for next-to-nothing.

Yeah a lot of people were happy we got Beal for next-to-nothing but one costs 50M+, the other 3.3M. And there is not that big of a difference in impact on the floor.

[bigfoot]

I can't believe we got him for next-to-nothing.

Yeah a lot of people were happy we got Beal for next-to-nothing but one costs 50M+, the other 3.3M. And there is not that big of a difference in impact on the floor.

The key is each player needs to sacrifice for the betterment of the team. Book needs to change and give 100% on defense while sacrificing some of his scoring. This team could be great if the players are willing to accept particular roles. If Beal turns out being sixth man of the year and we win a ring he would be worth every penny of that $50M contract.

[sunsbg]

I can't believe we got him for next-to-nothing.

Yeah a lot of people were happy we got Beal for next-to-nothing but one costs 50M+, the other 3.3M. And there is not that big of a difference in impact on the floor.

The key is each player needs to sacrifice for the betterment of the team. Book needs to change and give 100% on defense while sacrificing some of his scoring. This team could be great if the players are willing to accept particular roles. If Beal turns out being sixth man of the year and we win a ring he would be worth every penny of that $50M contract.

Surely Booker needs to give 100% on D, but he's never looked great while sacrificing his scoring. It was not the case with Rubio/CP3 when he gave a **** about defense, and it was not the case last year when he didn't care enough on either end. Best case is Beal accepts 6th man role and Booker looks like in Nuggets series of previous playoffs with Jones in CP3 role.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Yeah a lot of people were happy we got Beal for next-to-nothing but one costs 50M+, the other 3.3M. And there is not that big of a difference in impact on the floor.

The key is each player needs to sacrifice for the betterment of the team. Book needs to change and give 100% on defense while sacrificing some of his scoring. This team could be great if the players are willing to accept particular roles. If Beal turns out being sixth man of the year and we win a ring he would be worth every penny of that $50M contract.

Surely Booker needs to give 100% on D, but he's never looked great while sacrificing his scoring. It was not the case with Rubio/CP3 when he gave a **** about defense, and it was not the case last year when he didn't care enough on either end. Best case is Beal accepts 6th man role and Booker looks like in Nuggets series of previous playoffs with Jones in CP3 role.

I think the key is keeping a PG on the floor as often as possible. Booker expends more energy on offense if he's trying to play the 1. Keep Beal, Booker and Durant out of that position and we should expert better defensive effort from each.

[lilfishi22]

Yeah a lot of people were happy we got Beal for next-to-nothing but one costs 50M+, the other 3.3M. And there is not that big of a difference in impact on the floor.

The key is each player needs to sacrifice for the betterment of the team. Book needs to change and give 100% on defense while sacrificing some of his scoring. This team could be great if the players are willing to accept particular roles. If Beal turns out being sixth man of the year and we win a ring he would be worth every penny of that $50M contract.

Surely Booker needs to give 100% on D, but he's never looked great while sacrificing his scoring. It was not the case with Rubio/CP3 when he gave a **** about defense, and it was not the case last year when he didn't care enough on either end. Best case is Beal accepts 6th man role and Booker looks like in Nuggets series of previous playoffs with Jones in CP3 role.

Book doesn't and shouldn't sacrifice his scoring. The only thing he should sacrifice is the iso creating. He had his best seasons when he was the beneficiary of plays that were already 70% set up and he's just finishing that last 30%. We saw that when he played next to Rubio and next to CP3. Having Jones and Monte really takes a lot of those iso "opportunities"/possessions from him (and KD/Beal) and should put the Big 3 in a position to just finish on that last 30-40%.

I also think having Bud as our coach is a massive boon for this style as the hallmarks of his system is predicated on ball/player movement, cutting down on iso possessions, playing with pace/space and creating so it isn't necessarily the best player takes the shot but the best person to take the shot, takes the shot

[Frank Lee]

Has there been a team with more turnover with the coaches, management and ownership the past ten yrs than phnx? Book has seen a revolving door in those areas

[LV-Suns]

Has there been a team with more turnover with the coaches, management and ownership the past ten yrs than phnx? Book has seen a revolving door in those areas

We haven’t gotten it right since Mike D’Antoni.

[shrink]

Is there any outside chance that we can retain him after this year unless he takes another minimum contract? Love this guy, i wish he can be our PG for the next 3-4 years.

Yes. This move puts Grayson Allen on the bench and you could move him at the deadline for an expiring deal and have the space to resign Jones for less than what Allen would be making. It’s possible. Even with apron, you can resign your own guys, it’s just really costly with the tax.

While this is an important factor in the apron rules, the CBA would still require Bird rights or an exception for a team over the salary cap to give any free agent a contract. With just one year in PHX, Tyus won’t generate Bird rights, even early Bird. And trading Grayson Allen for an expiring only helps if it gets the team’s total payroll far enough under the aprons to reclaim your MLE, and I’m not sure even the MLE will be enough for Jones contract next year.

I just stopped by to congratulate you on Jones, and tell you how jealous I am as a MIN fan. We’ll see if Tim Connelly’s infatuation with Rob Dillingham pays off, but the Wolves could have used either Monte Morris or Tyus Jones next year with 36 year old Mike Conley, and you got them both .. on vet minimum deals! Well done.

[Saberestar]

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[Saberestar]

For a long time, Tyus Jones had the label of “best backup point guard in the NBA.” Last year he was the starter in Washington but that team struggled. What does he bring as a free-agent addition?

Budenholzer:
"We feel like Tyus has established himself as a great starting point guard in our league and he will be our starter. When you put him out there with Kevin, Brad, Book and Nurk [Jusuf Nurkic], we feel like we’ve got a strong starting five. And a really strong bench behind them.

Tyus can help us play faster. He’s great with the kick-aheads, he’s great with getting teammates involved in transition. But then also in the halfcourt. He’s a guy who has always been a high assists guy, low turnovers. He can get us organized. Everyone talks about how much talent we have. Hopefully he can put them in positions to be their best."


He has the clout to tell one of those guys “No” in key moments or on a given night?

Budenholzer:
"Hopefully the whole team can feel who’s got it going. But to have a point guard who’s got the IQ, the experience, the leadership, the ability to communicate, with everyone trusting him – his coach and his teammates – yes, we feel like Tyus has got that in him. He’s got that DNA".

https://www.nba.com/news/the-qa-mike-budenholzer-ready-to-lead-suns

[Saberestar]

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This is nice, we didn't have any great "floater player" since TJ Warren. Cam Payne was OK, but not elite.

It seems that Oso has that weapon in his skillset too, interesting for a big.

[lilfishi22]

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This is nice, we didn't have any great "floater player" since TJ Warren. Cam Payne was OK, but not elite.

It seems that Oso has that weapon in his skillset too, interesting for a big.

Love a good floater