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Post#41 » by FarBeyondDriven » Sat Jul 13, 2024 8:57 am

Sealab2024 wrote:Dude looked as legit in a summer league game as I've ever seen someone look and let it be known that his first professional points came by way of absolutely baptizing Yves Missi on as savage a dunk as I've seen from a guy getting his first taste of the league.


he really impressed me. He just gets after it on both ends.
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Post#42 » by TheSuzerain » Sat Jul 13, 2024 12:30 pm

The shot is the question. But great athleticism/intensity.

Went way too low in the draft.
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Post#43 » by Klomp » Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:44 pm

A couple comparisons I've thought about in body type and somewhat in skillset potential are Jalen Williams and Jaylen Brown
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Re: Terrence Shannon Jr 

Post#44 » by babyjax13 » Thu Jul 25, 2024 11:55 pm

Klomp wrote:A couple comparisons I've thought about in body type and somewhat in skillset potential are Jalen Williams and Jaylen Brown

I see Corey Maggette, but not a GQ model.
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Re: Terrence Shannon Jr 

Post#45 » by pcbothwel » Fri Jul 26, 2024 12:58 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:The shot is the question. But great athleticism/intensity.

Went way too low in the draft.

Agreed... but its not just the shot, but touch. That could be a problem
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Re: Terrence Shannon Jr 

Post#46 » by Colbinii » Fri Jul 26, 2024 3:34 pm

Klomp wrote:A couple comparisons I've thought about in body type and somewhat in skillset potential are Jalen Williams and Jaylen Brown


Shannon doesn't have that potential :lol:

DeAndre Hunter, smaller Gerald Wallace
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Post#47 » by Klomp » Fri Jul 26, 2024 3:57 pm

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Klomp wrote:A couple comparisons I've thought about in body type and somewhat in skillset potential are Jalen Williams and Jaylen Brown


Shannon doesn't have that potential :lol:

DeAndre Hunter, smaller Gerald Wallace

Well people didn't think Jalen Williams had this kind of upside either, yet here we are....

Upperclassmen automatically get downgraded in "potential" because of this believe that anyone good goes one and done. Well a lot of one and dones aren't ready for NBA minutes right away, and upperclassmen can often come in and be high level contributors.

I think another interesting case study was Desmond Bane. Had a very solid college career, but drafted at the end of the round because he was an older draftee and he couldn't possibly be that good because he was older than most of the kids he was facing.....
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Re: Terrence Shannon Jr 

Post#48 » by Colbinii » Fri Jul 26, 2024 4:23 pm

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Klomp wrote:A couple comparisons I've thought about in body type and somewhat in skillset potential are Jalen Williams and Jaylen Brown


Shannon doesn't have that potential :lol:

DeAndre Hunter, smaller Gerald Wallace

Well people didn't think Jalen Williams had this kind of upside either, yet here we are....


Sure, but each year of age they are, the less likely it is. Jalen Williams was 21.5 Years of age his rookie season. Shannon will be 24.0 years of age.

Upperclassmen automatically get downgraded in "potential" because of this believe that anyone good goes one and done. Well a lot of one and dones aren't ready for NBA minutes right away, and upperclassmen can often come in and be high level contributors.


You can say this but keep in mind I never said this. So bringing up what some people do, who aren't me, really has no bearing on me or the point I am making.

The fact is Shannon never showed the on-ball creation which Jalen Williams flashed in college. Shannon would need to make a major leap at 24 years of age which he never showed in college. Meanwhile, Jalen Williams showed a massive jump as a playmaking during his Age 20 season.

I think another interesting case study was Desmond Bane. Had a very solid college career, but drafted at the end of the round because he was an older draftee and he couldn't possibly be that good because he was older than most of the kids he was facing.....


Desmond Bane, the guy who shot 46, 42 and 44 percent from 3 in his final 3 years in College? Yeah, I do like him as an analogy for Terrence Shannon Jr more-so than the younger guys, but for every Bane their are 10 other players who don't pan out.

This is why I said Crash Jr. That's just a perfect encapsulation of Terrence Shannon Jr as a prospect. Hard-nosed wing who relentlessly attacks the rim. Crash was a very good player at his pinnacle as well and for a skill-set matches much better than Bane [A lights out shooter] or JB/JDub who have much more complete offensive games than TSJ.
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Re: Terrence Shannon Jr 

Post#49 » by clyde21 » Fri Jul 26, 2024 4:28 pm

Klomp wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
Klomp wrote:A couple comparisons I've thought about in body type and somewhat in skillset potential are Jalen Williams and Jaylen Brown


Shannon doesn't have that potential :lol:

DeAndre Hunter, smaller Gerald Wallace

Well people didn't think Jalen Williams had this kind of upside either, yet here we are....


TJ is already 24 my man, this is the beginning of his prime as a basketball player, at some point upside it not an important part of the discussion.
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Post#50 » by Klomp » Fri Jul 26, 2024 5:57 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Klomp wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
Shannon doesn't have that potential :lol:

DeAndre Hunter, smaller Gerald Wallace

Well people didn't think Jalen Williams had this kind of upside either, yet here we are....


TJ is already 24 my man, this is the beginning of his prime as a basketball player, at some point upside it not an important part of the discussion.

Well I never said his upside has to come 5-10 years down the road. He might realize his potential faster than most. Speaking of potential, last I heard Bruno Caboclo is still two years away from being two years away!

And as a bonus with a Minnesota connection, I think Shannon is younger than Tanguy Ngombo when we drafted him, so he's not really that old when you think about it....
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Re: Terrence Shannon Jr 

Post#51 » by EMG518 » Sat Jul 27, 2024 6:45 am

He was on my 1st round board in 2021 and he wasn't a freshman, that's how old he is.
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Post#52 » by atlantabbq99 » Mon Jul 29, 2024 8:29 am

TSJ is old but he should have a 10-15 year career. Low ceiling, high floor. He will probably be a solid starter in his prime and an elite bench player or 6th man in the 2nd half of his career. Which is not bad for a non lottery player.
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Post#53 » by lastb1ckman » Thu Aug 1, 2024 8:23 pm

What's the last player that came into the league as late as him that turned into a star? I'm just curious, he might be 1 of 1 if he did turn into something special. Of the top of my head, rookies his age are usually undrafted guys, and amongst that group one of the best in recent years is Duncan Robinson. I think he was also 24 his rookie season and he was ROUGH his first season. But the heat developed him into one of the best shooters in the entire league and he got a pretty big bag. Shannon has much more to start with, so the Timberwolves have a lot to work with here.
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Re: Terrence Shannon Jr 

Post#54 » by lastb1ckman » Thu Aug 1, 2024 8:38 pm

Colbinii wrote:
Klomp wrote:A couple comparisons I've thought about in body type and somewhat in skillset potential are Jalen Williams and Jaylen Brown


Shannon doesn't have that potential :lol:

DeAndre Hunter, smaller Gerald Wallace


Hey Gerald Wallace was no scrub, he got an all star on the Bobcats in the pre Kemba days. If Shannon turned into THAT, that's a great outcome.
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Re: Terrence Shannon Jr 

Post#55 » by Colbinii » Thu Aug 1, 2024 8:56 pm

lastb1ckman wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
Klomp wrote:A couple comparisons I've thought about in body type and somewhat in skillset potential are Jalen Williams and Jaylen Brown


Shannon doesn't have that potential :lol:

DeAndre Hunter, smaller Gerald Wallace


Hey Gerald Wallace was no scrub, he got an all star on the Bobcats in the pre Kemba days. If Shannon turned into THAT, that's a great outcome.


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Post#56 » by Klomp » Thu Aug 1, 2024 9:23 pm

I don't love the Wallace comparison, only because he was so raw offensively coming out of Alabama. Shannon, at this point, is far more defined. Though I guess technically, had Shannon declared after his freshman year, it might be a comparison that would be made.
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Re: Terrence Shannon Jr 

Post#57 » by atlantabbq99 » Thu Aug 1, 2024 11:44 pm

lastb1ckman wrote:What's the last player that came into the league as late as him that turned into a star? I'm just curious, he might be 1 of 1 if he did turn into something special. Of the top of my head, rookies his age are usually undrafted guys, and amongst that group one of the best in recent years is Duncan Robinson. I think he was also 24 his rookie season and he was ROUGH his first season. But the heat developed him into one of the best shooters in the entire league and he got a pretty big bag. Shannon has much more to start with, so the Timberwolves have a lot to work with here.


Off the top of my head, Manu, Marc Gasol. If i spent 30 minutes research this, i think I could probably find 5 more.
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Post#58 » by atlantabbq99 » Thu Aug 1, 2024 11:45 pm

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Re: Terrence Shannon Jr 

Post#59 » by lastb1ckman » Fri Aug 2, 2024 2:01 am

atlantabbq99 wrote:
lastb1ckman wrote:What's the last player that came into the league as late as him that turned into a star? I'm just curious, he might be 1 of 1 if he did turn into something special. Of the top of my head, rookies his age are usually undrafted guys, and amongst that group one of the best in recent years is Duncan Robinson. I think he was also 24 his rookie season and he was ROUGH his first season. But the heat developed him into one of the best shooters in the entire league and he got a pretty big bag. Shannon has much more to start with, so the Timberwolves have a lot to work with here.


Off the top of my head, Manu, Marc Gasol. If i spent 30 minutes research this, i think I could probably find 5 more.


Hmm, wow that's actually a good crowd. None that recent tho. But shows its not impossible if you have a good coach and org
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Re: Terrence Shannon Jr 

Post#60 » by kobyz » Sun Aug 4, 2024 8:17 am

Eric Gordon/RJ Barrett hybrid

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