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Lakers/Portland 

Post#1 » by bgrep14 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 1:05 pm

Lakers: Rui, Vincent, and Vanderbilt

Portland: Grant and Timelord

Do picks need to go either way?

Portland gets younger and Lakers get more quality bets to meet LeBrons timeline.
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Re: Lakers/Portland 

Post#2 » by JRoy » Tue Jul 30, 2024 1:12 pm

bgrep14 wrote:Lakers: Rui, Vincent, and Vanderbilt

Portland: Grant and Timelord

Do picks need to go either way?

Portland gets younger and Lakers get more quality bets to meet LeBrons timeline.


POR politely declines. Looking for FRP.
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Re: Lakers/Portland 

Post#3 » by bgrep14 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 1:27 pm

JRoy wrote:
bgrep14 wrote:Lakers: Rui, Vincent, and Vanderbilt

Portland: Grant and Timelord

Do picks need to go either way?

Portland gets younger and Lakers get more quality bets to meet LeBrons timeline.


POR politely declines. Looking for FRP.


What’s your thoughts on Vanderbilt, Vincent, and Knecht for Grant. Does that not work since Knecht was just drafted
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Re: Lakers/Portland 

Post#4 » by JRoy » Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:05 pm

bgrep14 wrote:
JRoy wrote:
bgrep14 wrote:Lakers: Rui, Vincent, and Vanderbilt

Portland: Grant and Timelord

Do picks need to go either way?

Portland gets younger and Lakers get more quality bets to meet LeBrons timeline.


POR politely declines. Looking for FRP.


What’s your thoughts on Vanderbilt, Vincent, and Knecht for Grant. Does that not work since Knecht was just drafted


Doesn’t work for me. Don’t value Vandy or Vincent at all. Maybe another team would give up a quality FRP for Knecht.
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Re: Lakers/Portland 

Post#5 » by Myth » Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:22 pm

bgrep14 wrote:
JRoy wrote:
bgrep14 wrote:Lakers: Rui, Vincent, and Vanderbilt

Portland: Grant and Timelord

Do picks need to go either way?

Portland gets younger and Lakers get more quality bets to meet LeBrons timeline.


POR politely declines. Looking for FRP.


What’s your thoughts on Vanderbilt, Vincent, and Knecht for Grant. Does that not work since Knecht was just drafted

I like Knecht for the Blazers. I lost track, but I think Blazers would have to get rid of a player to do a 3 for 1 though, and I don’t see them just releasing one of them on the roster and eating the contract, so a slight tweak is probably needed.
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Re: Lakers/Portland 

Post#6 » by Wizenheimer » Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:05 pm

Myth wrote:
bgrep14 wrote:
JRoy wrote:
POR politely declines. Looking for FRP.


What’s your thoughts on Vanderbilt, Vincent, and Knecht for Grant. Does that not work since Knecht was just drafted

I like Knecht for the Blazers. I lost track, but I think Blazers would have to get rid of a player to do a 3 for 1 though, and I don’t see them just releasing one of them on the roster and eating the contract, so a slight tweak is probably needed.


teams can have up to 20 players under contract in the off-season. Would not have to trim to 15 till the beginning of regular season
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Re: Lakers/Portland 

Post#7 » by Myth » Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:14 pm

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Myth wrote:
bgrep14 wrote:
What’s your thoughts on Vanderbilt, Vincent, and Knecht for Grant. Does that not work since Knecht was just drafted

I like Knecht for the Blazers. I lost track, but I think Blazers would have to get rid of a player to do a 3 for 1 though, and I don’t see them just releasing one of them on the roster and eating the contract, so a slight tweak is probably needed.


teams can have up to 20 players under contract in the off-season. Would not have to trim to 15 till the beginning of regular season

Thank you. Yeah, so this requires follow up moves, but I’m ok with that as a concept, but becomes complicated contract wise. It looks like we have 15 under standard contract and 2 2 way players. After this trade, 17 standard, so we would be highly motivated to move off players rather than eating contracts. You never want to eat multiple years, and the only expiring players would be Banton, Walker, Rupert, and Murray (if we ignore team options). So without a follow up trade, I assume we’d have to waive 2 of Murray, Rupert, and Banton. So is the team prepared to do that?
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Re: Lakers/Portland 

Post#8 » by Walton1one » Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:22 pm

Yeah, the primary asset returning to POR in any deal with LAL for Grant is a 1st round pick, unprotected (or at worst top3\5) protected. Without that, at minimum, in the deal, there is no deal...
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Re: Lakers/Portland 

Post#9 » by DaVoiceMaster » Wed Jul 31, 2024 1:53 am

Wizenheimer wrote:
Myth wrote:
bgrep14 wrote:
What’s your thoughts on Vanderbilt, Vincent, and Knecht for Grant. Does that not work since Knecht was just drafted

I like Knecht for the Blazers. I lost track, but I think Blazers would have to get rid of a player to do a 3 for 1 though, and I don’t see them just releasing one of them on the roster and eating the contract, so a slight tweak is probably needed.


teams can have up to 20 players under contract in the off-season. Would not have to trim to 15 till the beginning of regular season


Whoa, how long had that been a thing? Hadn't heard that before.
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Re: Lakers/Portland 

Post#10 » by tester551 » Wed Jul 31, 2024 5:50 am

DaVoiceMaster wrote:
Wizenheimer wrote:
Myth wrote:I like Knecht for the Blazers. I lost track, but I think Blazers would have to get rid of a player to do a 3 for 1 though, and I don’t see them just releasing one of them on the roster and eating the contract, so a slight tweak is probably needed.


teams can have up to 20 players under contract in the off-season. Would not have to trim to 15 till the beginning of regular season


Whoa, how long had that been a thing? Hadn't heard that before.

For at least the last 20 years...
*** Edit *** - I guess as I thought about this more, the offseason limit use to be 18 until 2-way contracts became a thing. For the last 4-5 years, its been 20 men. But it was 18 for a long time before that.
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Re: Lakers/Portland 

Post#11 » by tacos » Wed Jul 31, 2024 6:43 am

bgrep14 wrote:
JRoy wrote:
bgrep14 wrote:Lakers: Rui, Vincent, and Vanderbilt

Portland: Grant and Timelord

Do picks need to go either way?

Portland gets younger and Lakers get more quality bets to meet LeBrons timeline.


POR politely declines. Looking for FRP.


What’s your thoughts on Vanderbilt, Vincent, and Knecht for Grant. Does that not work since Knecht was just drafted


once you drive them off the lot they lose most of their value
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Re: Lakers/Portland 

Post#12 » by DanishLakerFan » Wed Jul 31, 2024 8:10 am

bgrep14 wrote:Lakers: Rui, Vincent, and Vanderbilt

Portland: Grant and Timelord

Do picks need to go either way?

Portland gets younger and Lakers get more quality bets to meet LeBrons timeline.


Not a fan from Portland's point of view. Portland should look for picks, young players they can use and shedding money. This only sheds a little bit a few years down the road.

LA should probably take this deal, if it was there. Personally i think its possible to do better, though.
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Re: Lakers/Portland 

Post#13 » by BlazersBroncos » Wed Jul 31, 2024 2:28 pm

A pick needs to be coming back to PDX.

Grant + Reath for Rui + Vincent + Reddish + 2029 Top-4 + higher of LAC / LAL 2025 SRP
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Re: Lakers/Portland 

Post#14 » by DaVoiceMaster » Sat Aug 3, 2024 6:56 pm

tester551 wrote:
DaVoiceMaster wrote:
Wizenheimer wrote:
teams can have up to 20 players under contract in the off-season. Would not have to trim to 15 till the beginning of regular season


Whoa, how long had that been a thing? Hadn't heard that before.

For at least the last 20 years...
*** Edit *** - I guess as I thought about this more, the offseason limit use to be 18 until 2-way contracts became a thing. For the last 4-5 years, its been 20 men. But it was 18 for a long time before that.


Thanks, I never heard that before. That makes things a bit easier.
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Re: Lakers/Portland 

Post#15 » by DeBlazerRiddem » Sat Aug 3, 2024 7:09 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:A pick needs to be coming back to PDX.

Grant + Reath for Rui + Vincent + Reddish + 2029 Top-4 + higher of LAC / LAL 2025 SRP


Agreed, Portland doesn't have much reason to do this without a pick. The question is does any other team have reason to add a pick? I think it's more likely to happen during the season when a team is failing expectations and needs to make a move asap, than right now when predictions can paint a rosey picture and there is no immediate pressure to act.

What scares me about a top 4 protected picks is the cynical conspiratorial mind saying the league will probably hand the Lakers the #2 pick again if they miss the playoffs in a year they owe a pick. I know it's probably not real but man I hesitate to deal with that team because they always seem to get lucky when they need it. So we would need really really light protection or a rolling protection that would cover multiple years. A 1 off protected pick that could end up being nothing scares me.

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