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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#501 » by JonFromVA » Thu Aug 1, 2024 5:40 pm

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JujitsuFlip wrote:Allen is skinny too lol its not like we have a guy at 5 with a Jokic, Embiid, or Vuc build.


And yet, Allen is 28lbs heavier than Evan while Embiid is 37lbs heavier than Allen.

What we get In return, are a couple of mobile rim protecting bigs who can defend out to the 3pt line and move their feet which is pretty rare capability I'm hoping both retain as they get older.

And often things aren't dictated by what we prefer, but by what the player prefers. I believe Anthony Davis was able to put on weight faster than Evan and even as he's climbed up to 253lbs he's always insisted he didn't want to play C.
AD always gets hurt though, so it makes sense he doesn't want to play 5.


It'd be cool if Evan didn't get hurt...
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#502 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Aug 1, 2024 9:36 pm

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And yet, Allen is 28lbs heavier than Evan while Embiid is 37lbs heavier than Allen.

What we get In return, are a couple of mobile rim protecting bigs who can defend out to the 3pt line and move their feet which is pretty rare capability I'm hoping both retain as they get older.

And often things aren't dictated by what we prefer, but by what the player prefers. I believe Anthony Davis was able to put on weight faster than Evan and even as he's climbed up to 253lbs he's always insisted he didn't want to play C.
AD always gets hurt though, so it makes sense he doesn't want to play 5.


It'd be cool if Evan didn't get hurt...
Playing in 217 games out of a possible 265 games through 3 seasons is pretty darn good. Suiting up in nearly 82% of possible games, including the post season all 3 seasons.

AD wishes he had health luck anywhere near that level.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#503 » by JonFromVA » Thu Aug 1, 2024 9:53 pm

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JujitsuFlip wrote:AD always gets hurt though, so it makes sense he doesn't want to play 5.


It'd be cool if Evan didn't get hurt...
Playing in 217 games out of a possible 265 games through 3 seasons is pretty darn good. Suiting up in nearly 82% of possible games, including the post season all 3 seasons.

AD wishes he had health luck anywhere near that level.


The idea is to keep it that way. For instance, I wouldn't presume his ribs would have held up any better if he got stabbed in the chest with a blow like the elbow that put Allen out of the playoffs.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#504 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Aug 1, 2024 11:26 pm

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It'd be cool if Evan didn't get hurt...
Playing in 217 games out of a possible 265 games through 3 seasons is pretty darn good. Suiting up in nearly 82% of possible games, including the post season all 3 seasons.

AD wishes he had health luck anywhere near that level.


The idea is to keep it that way. For instance, I wouldn't presume his ribs would have held up any better if he got stabbed in the chest with a blow like the elbow that put Allen out of the playoffs.
jb estimates that is an injury that can be played through LOL
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#505 » by JonFromVA » Fri Aug 2, 2024 5:40 am

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JujitsuFlip wrote:Playing in 217 games out of a possible 265 games through 3 seasons is pretty darn good. Suiting up in nearly 82% of possible games, including the post season all 3 seasons.

AD wishes he had health luck anywhere near that level.


The idea is to keep it that way. For instance, I wouldn't presume his ribs would have held up any better if he got stabbed in the chest with a blow like the elbow that put Allen out of the playoffs.
jb estimates that is an injury that can be played through LOL


Bickerstaff Jr can contemplate that in Detroit.

Meanwhile Altman seems to have invented a new medical term to describe what happened to Allen simply fueling the intrigue in to the injury by calling it a "pierced rib" when asked by a reporter if Allen suffered a cracked rib. Unless Franz Wagner had been literally sharpening his elbows it's hard to imagine how he could have pierced Allen's ribs.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#507 » by JonFromVA » Sat Aug 3, 2024 3:45 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/276903/Marcus-Morris-Likely-To-Sign-With-Cavaliers-Or-Sixers

Looks like there's a chance Morris is back after all.


I still have serious doubts about the Cavs willingness to bring back a vet min who runs his mouth, plus unless the 76'ers pull off a deal they seem to have the bigger hole at PF.

Hopefully they've had Niang on a treadmill all Summer ...
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#508 » by ijspeelman » Sat Aug 3, 2024 11:42 pm

Off-topic, but sorry I've been mostly out this off-season. I have been busy af finalizing my move to Boston and just completed it this week
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#509 » by JonFromVA » Sun Aug 4, 2024 2:10 am

ijspeelman wrote:Off-topic, but sorry I've been mostly out this off-season. I have been busy af finalizing my move to Boston and just completed it this week


Good luck with that, at least you've picked a good time ... Cavs news has been pretty dead.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#510 » by JujitsuFlip » Sun Aug 4, 2024 4:58 am

ijspeelman wrote:Off-topic, but sorry I've been mostly out this off-season. I have been busy af finalizing my move to Boston and just completed it this week
Sorry we never got to meet up before you left Cincinnati, hope Boston treats ya well!
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#511 » by toooskies » Sun Aug 4, 2024 1:31 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/276903/Marcus-Morris-Likely-To-Sign-With-Cavaliers-Or-Sixers

Looks like there's a chance Morris is back after all.


I still have serious doubts about the Cavs willingness to bring back a vet min who runs his mouth, plus unless the 76'ers pull off a deal they seem to have the bigger hole at PF.

Hopefully they've had Niang on a treadmill all Summer ...

My biggest concern is the team didn't play well even with him on the court. He hasn't been a positive on the court since 2020.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#512 » by JujitsuFlip » Sun Aug 4, 2024 1:49 pm

toooskies wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/276903/Marcus-Morris-Likely-To-Sign-With-Cavaliers-Or-Sixers

Looks like there's a chance Morris is back after all.


I still have serious doubts about the Cavs willingness to bring back a vet min who runs his mouth, plus unless the 76'ers pull off a deal they seem to have the bigger hole at PF.

Hopefully they've had Niang on a treadmill all Summer ...

My biggest concern is the team didn't play well even with him on the court. He hasn't been a positive on the court since 2020.
You both already know this but I'd rather have Morris as my back-up big than Niang.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#513 » by toooskies » Sun Aug 4, 2024 3:46 pm

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I still have serious doubts about the Cavs willingness to bring back a vet min who runs his mouth, plus unless the 76'ers pull off a deal they seem to have the bigger hole at PF.

Hopefully they've had Niang on a treadmill all Summer ...

My biggest concern is the team didn't play well even with him on the court. He hasn't been a positive on the court since 2020.
You both already know this but I'd rather have Morris as my back-up big than Niang.

I'd rather not have either, but the team played better with Niang than Morris in both the regular season and the postseason.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#514 » by JujitsuFlip » Sun Aug 4, 2024 9:27 pm

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toooskies wrote:My biggest concern is the team didn't play well even with him on the court. He hasn't been a positive on the court since 2020.
You both already know this but I'd rather have Morris as my back-up big than Niang.

I'd rather not have either, but the team played better with Niang than Morris in both the regular season and the postseason.
I can't take the regular season into account at all.

As far as the post season by on/off and +/-, i assume? Because by the eye test Niang should not have been on the floor.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#515 » by toooskies » Sun Aug 4, 2024 11:59 pm

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JujitsuFlip wrote:You both already know this but I'd rather have Morris as my back-up big than Niang.

I'd rather not have either, but the team played better with Niang than Morris in both the regular season and the postseason.
I can't take the regular season into account at all.

As far as the post season by on/off and +/-, i assume? Because by the eye test Niang should not have been on the floor.

I only include the regular season because postseason sample sizes are small-- the two big Orlando blowouts skewed some numbers. But Morris was kinda garbage nearly every time he stepped on the court, excluding his first and last appearances with the team.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#516 » by JujitsuFlip » Mon Aug 5, 2024 12:49 am

toooskies wrote:
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toooskies wrote:I'd rather not have either, but the team played better with Niang than Morris in both the regular season and the postseason.
I can't take the regular season into account at all.

As far as the post season by on/off and +/-, i assume? Because by the eye test Niang should not have been on the floor.

I only include the regular season because postseason sample sizes are small-- the two big Orlando blowouts skewed some numbers. But Morris was kinda garbage nearly every time he stepped on the court, excluding his first and last appearances with the team.
He only played 12 regular season games and 9 playoff games, either way you look at it, the sample it tiny.

He plays defense with more intensity than Niang, which this team needs and he shot the rock at nearly 40% in the playoffs while Niang couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.

Morris was on 4 teams last season and played for 2, let him begin the season here and see what happens.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#517 » by toooskies » Mon Aug 5, 2024 2:56 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:
toooskies wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:I can't take the regular season into account at all.

As far as the post season by on/off and +/-, i assume? Because by the eye test Niang should not have been on the floor.

I only include the regular season because postseason sample sizes are small-- the two big Orlando blowouts skewed some numbers. But Morris was kinda garbage nearly every time he stepped on the court, excluding his first and last appearances with the team.
He only played 12 regular season games and 9 playoff games, either way you look at it, the sample it tiny.

He plays defense with more intensity than Niang, which this team needs and he shot the rock at nearly 40% in the playoffs while Niang couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.

Morris was on 4 teams last season and played for 2, let him begin the season here and see what happens.

Think about why he was on four teams last year.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#518 » by JujitsuFlip » Mon Aug 5, 2024 3:22 am

toooskies wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
toooskies wrote:I only include the regular season because postseason sample sizes are small-- the two big Orlando blowouts skewed some numbers. But Morris was kinda garbage nearly every time he stepped on the court, excluding his first and last appearances with the team.
He only played 12 regular season games and 9 playoff games, either way you look at it, the sample it tiny.

He plays defense with more intensity than Niang, which this team needs and he shot the rock at nearly 40% in the playoffs while Niang couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.

Morris was on 4 teams last season and played for 2, let him begin the season here and see what happens.

Think about why he was on four teams last year.
Because for 3 of those teams he was carrying a $17,116,279 cap hit and he's not worth that, especially at 34 years old. Not that hard to contemplate.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#519 » by toooskies » Mon Aug 5, 2024 3:39 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
toooskies wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:He only played 12 regular season games and 9 playoff games, either way you look at it, the sample it tiny.

He plays defense with more intensity than Niang, which this team needs and he shot the rock at nearly 40% in the playoffs while Niang couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.

Morris was on 4 teams last season and played for 2, let him begin the season here and see what happens.

Think about why he was on four teams last year.
Because for 3 of those teams he was carrying a $17,116,279 cap hit and he's not worth that, especially at 34 years old. Not that hard to contemplate.

Two of those teams were playoff teams for which he couldn't stay in their rotations in the regular season.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#520 » by JujitsuFlip » Mon Aug 5, 2024 7:08 pm

toooskies wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
toooskies wrote:Think about why he was on four teams last year.
Because for 3 of those teams he was carrying a $17,116,279 cap hit and he's not worth that, especially at 34 years old. Not that hard to contemplate.

Two of those teams were playoff teams for which he couldn't stay in their rotations in the regular season.
Give me a break, he was on the Clippers for a total of 4 games lol

Idk what you have against this dude, he's a better option than Niang on both ends of the floor and is much cheaper.

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