Monitoring the Trade: Rob Dillingham for Jakob Poeltl

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

Dillingham looked great in the limited time I saw him.

[bballsparkin]

It made me feel a bit better when Pop basically gave the pick away. If he didn't think anyone in that range was worth taking, chances are we didn't miss out on much.

I still would have rather kept the pick since Poeltl doesn't fit what we're trying to do (rebuild), but it's time to move on.

Well they never gave it away lol.

Spurs get:

2031 first-round pick (unprotected)
2030 pick swap (top 1 protected)

Trail Blazers get:

Rob Dillingham (8th overall pick)

They're loading up on future draft capital to build a winner around Wemby. Those picks could be dandy. Nonetheless, point taken, nobody enamoured them.

[ItsDanger]

Buzelis would have been a nice pick for Spurs. Must assume they have multiple year plan in how to build around Wemby.

[OAKLEY_2]

I would've taken Zach Edey at 8. Go big or go home.

Probably would have been Edey. Or Salaun

[Los_29]

It made me feel a bit better when Pop basically gave the pick away. If he didn't think anyone in that range was worth taking, chances are we didn't miss out on much.

I still would have rather kept the pick since Poeltl doesn't fit what we're trying to do (rebuild), but it's time to move on.

Well they never gave it away lol.

Spurs get:

2031 first-round pick (unprotected)
2030 pick swap (top 1 protected)

Trail Blazers get:

Rob Dillingham (8th overall pick)

They're loading up on future draft capital to build a winner around Wemby. Those picks could be dandy. Nonetheless, point taken, nobody enamoured them.

Wouldn’t it be better to build around him now then wait until he’s 27-28? lol.

It was a bad draft so I can see the gamble. However, Ant looks like a legit top 10 player so I wouldn’t gamble on the Wolves being bad. Although anything can happen.

[Raps in 4]

It made me feel a bit better when Pop basically gave the pick away. If he didn't think anyone in that range was worth taking, chances are we didn't miss out on much.

I still would have rather kept the pick since Poeltl doesn't fit what we're trying to do (rebuild), but it's time to move on.

I think it had a lot to do with team fit and what they're trying to surround Wembanyama with which is guys who have aptitude for defending (which likely made Topic unattractive to them). I think it was a good move for them considering they're getting an unprotected 1st a while from now and a top 1 protected pick swap. Two chances that this could really backfire on MIN and haunt them.

The only way it backfires for Minny is if Edwards leaves them in 2031 free agency, he suffers a career-ending/altering injury at some point before then, or the Wolves have an injury-plagued 2031 season.

[The Duke]

It made me feel a bit better when Pop basically gave the pick away. If he didn't think anyone in that range was worth taking, chances are we didn't miss out on much.

I still would have rather kept the pick since Poeltl doesn't fit what we're trying to do (rebuild), but it's time to move on.

Well they never gave it away lol.

Spurs get:

2031 first-round pick (unprotected)
2030 pick swap (top 1 protected)

Trail Blazers get:

Rob Dillingham (8th overall pick)

They're loading up on future draft capital to build a winner around Wemby. Those picks could be dandy. Nonetheless, point taken, nobody enamoured them.

Wouldn’t it be better to build around him now then wait until he’s 27-28? lol.

It was a bad draft so I can see the gamble. However, Ant looks like a legit top 10 player so I wouldn’t gamble on the Wolves being bad. Although anything can happen.

Spurs got tradable swaps or pick in two years, which will likely increase in value, can be traded sooner if the win now package is offer in 2/3 years

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

It made me feel a bit better when Pop basically gave the pick away. If he didn't think anyone in that range was worth taking, chances are we didn't miss out on much.

I still would have rather kept the pick since Poeltl doesn't fit what we're trying to do (rebuild), but it's time to move on.

I think it had a lot to do with team fit and what they're trying to surround Wembanyama with which is guys who have aptitude for defending (which likely made Topic unattractive to them). I think it was a good move for them considering they're getting an unprotected 1st a while from now and a top 1 protected pick swap. Two chances that this could really backfire on MIN and haunt them.

The only way it backfires for Minny is if Edwards leaves them in 2031 free agency, he suffers a career-ending/altering injury at some point before then, or the Wolves have an injury-plagued 2031 season.

It's tough to see into the future. Essentially B2B unprotected 1sts in 6 and 7 years from now is a risky proposition for any team.

[bballsparkin]

Wouldn’t it be better to build around him now then wait until he’s 27-28? lol.

It was a bad draft so I can see the gamble. However, Ant looks like a legit top 10 player so I wouldn’t gamble on the Wolves being bad. Although anything can happen.

Not necessarily if no one caught their interest. Cassel and CP is a nice addition for the development. The West is ultra competitive so they potentially will cash in on the 2025 draft pick to stick next to Wemby and Cassel plus whoever. 6 years is a long time in professional sports.

According to https://fanspo.com/nba/teams/san-antonio-spurs/27/draft-picks

2025

ATL No protections
CHI Protected 1-10
CHA Protected 1-14
Own

so right there that's at least two picks this draft upcoming plus Chicago and their own 2nds. they don't need to add current picks unless it's someone they target.

2026 1 - ATL swap rights plus Own

2027 1 - ATL No protections

2028 1 - BOS SAS has the right to swap its 2028 1st round pick for BOS's 2028 1st round pick protected for selection 1; if this pick falls on its protected selection and is therefore not conveyable, then BOS will instead convey its 2028 2nd round pick to SAS protected for selections 46-60 (if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then BOS's obligation to SAS will be extinguished) [BOS-SAS, 2/10/2022]

2030
1 - MIN swap posibility
SAS has the right to swap its 2030 1st round pick for MINs' 2030 1st round pick protected for selections 1-1 [MIN-SAS, 6/26/2024]

1 - DAL

2031 1 - SAC swap rights
2031 1 - MIN No protections

That's a lot of flexibility moving forward. And I think it's the same reason Houston did the trade with the Nets giving them their picks back for the Suns. Punting the cheap contracts forward since they already have lots of youth on the Rockets.

[Merit]

We're already talking about trading Poeltl, that's really all you need to know about the trade.

"We" talk about basically getting rid of everyone. Not really a reliable barometer on anything.

Yeah, but you can see them trying to distance themselves from it.

Who’s them? Because I haven’t heard a peep from the Front Office.

[S.W.A.N]

"We" talk about basically getting rid of everyone. Not really a reliable barometer on anything.

Yeah, but you can see them trying to distance themselves from it.

Who’s them? Because I haven’t heard a peep from the Front Office.

Random internet people who have nothing better to do than make **** up

[ash_k]

what is the point of this? To show that not-everything-will-go-your-way? only the irrationals can pretend from the moment of the trade they 'knew' that the pick would be a top10, only the irrationals.

Where is the Keldon Johnson one? He did average 20+ a couple of seasons ago.

[HiJiNX]

I’m not high on Dillingham. Didn’t like his disappearing act in the tournament at key moments. Wasn’t able to put enough pressure on the paint off the dribble when he faced NBA level athleticism. I see a backup PG…maybe a starter who is there to play some D and take open jumpers, set up plays, etc. Nothing dynamic.

Clingan would have been a nice fit for us.

I think Matas is a future all-star and probably ends up being better than the top two picks in this draft.

I think Chomche ends up being a top 10 player from this draft but it’ll take four years to get there.

[Reeko]

Lol good luck keeping this thread relevant over the next 5 years.

[ruckus]

Let's come back to this in 2035 when we see what the Spurs 2031 1st rounder develops into.

[Ackshun]

Just because MIN picked Dilly at 8 doesn't mean TOR would have.

I’d much rather this thread exist instead of more Koloko or “would Kyle Lowry” make this team a contender.

[deeps6x]

Just because MIN picked Dilly at 8 doesn't mean TOR would have.

We would have picked Edey.

[Scase]

what is the point of this? To show that not-everything-will-go-your-way? only the irrationals can pretend from the moment of the trade they 'knew' that the pick would be a top10, only the irrationals.

Where is the Keldon Johnson one? He did average 20+ a couple of seasons ago.

I'm sure you'll keep this same energy if one of the trades turns out to be a real hit right? Like if RJ blows up, I'm sure you won't be parading around saying how it was known all along and Masai planned this, or if some random pick from the Siakam trade turns out to be a steal, right?

Just making sure we aren't cherry picking here, since that never happens.

[ItsDanger]

what is the point of this? To show that not-everything-will-go-your-way? only the irrationals can pretend from the moment of the trade they 'knew' that the pick would be a top10, only the irrationals.

Where is the Keldon Johnson one? He did average 20+ a couple of seasons ago.

Its not uncommon to review past performance in order to assess the overall current status. That's how you learn and improve going forward. Remote chance at top 10 or not. Irrational indeed.

[Merit]

what is the point of this? To show that not-everything-will-go-your-way? only the irrationals can pretend from the moment of the trade they 'knew' that the pick would be a top10, only the irrationals.

Where is the Keldon Johnson one? He did average 20+ a couple of seasons ago.

I'm sure you'll keep this same energy if one of the trades turns out to be a real hit right? Like if RJ blows up, I'm sure you won't be parading around saying how it was known all along and Masai planned this, or if some random pick from the Siakam trade turns out to be a steal, right?

Just making sure we aren't cherry picking here, since that never happens.

Evaluating players received in trade is the reason why people are crapping on the Poeltl trade. They don’t feel he’s worth the first in this draft.

If they give Masai his justified props for other trades working out, they’re not cherry picking. They’re being objective. They don’t like one trade but they like another.

Masai is responsible for all trades. What we don’t factor in is the players picked at xyz spot. There’s a range. Masai might’ve picked a better player or a worse one. Since he will never get to make the pick we will never know.

This is different than picking Hoffa over Iggy. That actually happened.