2024-25 NBA Season Discussion

[MyUniBroDavis]

Lebron is still the best player on team USA when he wants to be.

I’ve been led to believe he’s a top 15 player by some on here

I’d go as far as to say that he’s the best player in the world during spurts. He can’t sustain that level anymore because of age but it’s crazy how much these sprints look like the vintage version.

I don’t know man, I saw Jayson Tatum kick out to a stunt off the strong side corner once after missing 3 layups in a row, clearly the reason USA isn’t playing him is because having their true best player on the court would just be unfair

Genuinely yeah bron does go crazy, his finishing was off the back half of last year + the playoffs but he was still great, it’s absurd what the lakers have done around him and AD honestly lol

[Peregrine01]

I’ve been led to believe he’s a top 15 player by some on here

I’d go as far as to say that he’s the best player in the world during spurts. He can’t sustain that level anymore because of age but it’s crazy how much these sprints look like the vintage version.

I don’t know man, I saw Jayson Tatum kick out to a stunt off the strong side corner once after missing 3 layups in a row, clearly the reason USA isn’t playing him is because having their true best player on the court would just be unfair

Genuinely yeah bron does go crazy, his finishing was off the back half of last year + the playoffs but he was still great, it’s absurd what the lakers have done around him and AD honestly lol

Lakers ran into bad match-ups against the Nuggets in back to back years. I think they advance to the WCF last year if they had been the 8 seed.

[MyUniBroDavis]

I’d go as far as to say that he’s the best player in the world during spurts. He can’t sustain that level anymore because of age but it’s crazy how much these sprints look like the vintage version.

I don’t know man, I saw Jayson Tatum kick out to a stunt off the strong side corner once after missing 3 layups in a row, clearly the reason USA isn’t playing him is because having their true best player on the court would just be unfair

Genuinely yeah bron does go crazy, his finishing was off the back half of last year + the playoffs but he was still great, it’s absurd what the lakers have done around him and AD honestly lol

Lakers ran into bad match-ups against the Nuggets in back to back years. I think they advance to the WCF last year if they had been the 8 seed.

I could see it, but also that’s just because they may have one serious human being outside of the big two on the roster

[jalengreen]

Lebron is still the best player on team USA when he wants to be.

Including exhibitions, he’s straight up just been their best player for three straight games.

[Peregrine01]

Lebron is still the best player on team USA when he wants to be.

Including exhibitions, he’s straight up just been their best player for three straight games.

What I was trying to say is that he’s still the best American player lol. The guy is 40. He just doesn’t make any sense.

[jalengreen]

Someone on here said that LeBron's been on the slowest decline ever, and that's really how it feels. It seems quite possible that he'll retire before any steep drop-off happens; leaving the game as still an elite player. And side note, I don't understand how some people think that sort of thing just doesn't matter when evaluating player careers.

[Colbinii]

Someone on here said that LeBron's been on the slowest decline ever, and that's really how it feels. It seems quite possible that he'll retire before any steep drop-off happens; leaving the game as still an elite player. And side note, I don't understand how some people think that sort of thing just doesn't matter when evaluating player careers.

What's incredible about it is since 2009, he has been adding enough to his game every year where it matches or outweighs any athletic decline.

[tsherkin]

Someone on here said that LeBron's been on the slowest decline ever, and that's really how it feels. It seems quite possible that he'll retire before any steep drop-off happens; leaving the game as still an elite player. And side note, I don't understand how some people think that sort of thing just doesn't matter when evaluating player careers.

What's incredible about it is since 2009, he has been adding enough to his game every year where it matches or outweighs any athletic decline.

It's insane watching him. It's been awesome watching him mash people from the post, developing his catch-and-shoot game, still getting out in transition, still killing it in the PnR, etc.

He's a monster. And while he can't quite elevate his scoring game in the playoffs, we did just watch him do horrible things to Denver in the first round. He was a +7% rTS guy in the first round and still posting over 63% TS. The Lakers got murdered on the offensive glass, D Lo sucked and they had no bench or spacing, so that was disappointing. But James was brilliant.

[ShaqAttac]

ig we wasnt really trying in the exhibitions

[Colbinii]

Shout out to Joker. +17 in 38.5 Minutes in a 45 minute game and 5 point win. Serbia was -12 in his 6.5 bench minutes.

Patty Mills is one of the GOAT international/FIBA players. Sad end to his career.

[AEnigma]

Fascinating how Patty Mills has regularly been one of the five best non-Americans in international competition.

Rooting for Germany to win and set up a France/Serbia bronze match. Serbia should be better but France seems to be getting every benefit of the whistle.

Canadian team should be as embarrassed as the 2004 U.S. Olympic team. Guess we will see if they can turn it into a Redeem Team of their own in 2028 with Edey.

[Colbinii]

Fascinating how Patty Mills has regularly been one of the five best non-Americans in international competition.

Rooting for Germany to win and set up a France/Serbia bronze match. Serbia should be better but France seems to be getting every benefit of the whistle.

Canadian team should be as embarrassed as the 2004 U.S. Olympic team. Guess we will see if they can turn it into a Redeem Team of their own in 2028 with Edey.

The 2024 Canadian team is a massive disappointment but it seems like in FIBA, the 'ol 3+D archetype with little offensive upside [Lu Dort, Dillion Brooks and Nickeil Alexander-Walker] really struggle with the slightly smaller court and different defensive strategies. I'm also a bit perplexed why they didn't play through Kelly Olynyk more as the teams 3rd best offensive player [Clearly better than Brooks].

There is a lot to be disappointed in, but it also seems like the morale of that team was ass from the get-go.

France vs Serbia would be great and I have Germany as favorites over whoever they play in the Semi-Finals, setting up a USA/Germany Finals.

[Peregrine01]

Will always be fascinating to me how Jekyl and Hyde Jamal Murray is. I don’t see the Nuggets extending him after this.

[tsherkin]

Will always be fascinating to me how Jekyl and Hyde Jamal Murray is. I don’t see the Nuggets extending him after this.

He isn't the guy they need for continued contention, that's pretty clear. Murray isn't bad when he's healthy, but he isn't a top-tier second option.

[LukaTheGOAT]

I foresee the Nuggets extending Murray after this, as they likely lack confidence in finding a replacement who offers a similar ceiling and a higher floor. They might consider accepting a lower ceiling for a higher floor, but the Nuggets' 2023 title win could paradoxically become their undoing. Having already won with Murray as their second option, they may be reluctant to take a different path. Additionally, it's uncertain how Jokic feels about Murray, but it’s possible that Jokic might not be entirely enamored with such a change.

[eminence]

I foresee the Nuggets extending Murray after this, as they likely lack confidence in finding a replacement who offers a similar ceiling and a higher floor. They might consider accepting a lower ceiling for a higher floor, but the Nuggets' 2023 title win could paradoxically become their undoing. Having already won with Murray as their second option, they may be reluctant to take a different path. Additionally, it's uncertain how Jokic feels about Murray, but it’s possible that Jokic might not be entirely enamored with such a change.

I'm sure DLo will be available.

[MyUniBroDavis]

Arguing that the Olympic performance effects his extension talks is like saying Tatum will get traded to the pistons for a a few second round picks lmao

[falcolombardi]

People always overreact to fiba ball relation to nba performance

Schroder or mills didnt become max contract players for having high usage games nor did giddey stop sucking ass for a decent few australia games

[tsherkin]

Arguing that the Olympic performance effects his extension talks is like saying Tatum will get traded to the pistons for a a few second round picks lmao

I think it's the half-decade of being injured and him not looking any better after a flat postseason where they failed to repeat that's gonna do it more so than anything FIBA-specific. If anything affects it, that is.

[Colbinii]

People always overreact to fiba ball relation to nba performance

Schroder or mills didnt become max contract players for having high usage games nor did giddey stop sucking ass for a decent few australia games

Is Murrays performance in 2024 that much different than his FIBA performance?