Olympics TRACK & FIELD

What were your favorite 5 races to watch?

100M M
3
17%
100 W Hurdles
1
6%
4x100 W Relay
2
11%
4x400 M Relay
2
11%
4x400 W Relay
0
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200M W
3
17%
400M M
3
17%
400M W Hurdles
1
6%
400M M Hurdles
1
6%
1500 M M
2
11%
 
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Post#141 » by bwgood77 » Sun Aug 4, 2024 10:46 pm

bisme37 wrote:Hey did I miss the pre-heats for the women's 400m hurdles? Or that hasn't happened yet?

I had written on a note that the 1st round was on very early this morning and I should watch the replay today, but now I'm not finding what I'm looking for. I need some Femke and Sydney in my life.


Yes, it was. When I go to Peacock and select olympics on the left, and then scroll down from the main feature which is the 100M, it says "Featured Replays" and it is the 3rd one listed. Do you have peacock?
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Post#142 » by California Gold » Sun Aug 4, 2024 10:59 pm

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ROballer wrote:USA managed to lose the gold medal in the 4x400 mixed relay exactly the same as in Tokyo.

Femke Bol with a terrific comeback. I know they beat the World Record yesterday, but ALWAYS go for your best team.
Or at least the second best.

They let a 19 yr old kid from college anchor this.

At this rate they're gonna lose the overall medal standings, just too many silvers who should have been golds.


They're still fine. China will really be the only competition in that dept. Obviously they can't let too many more of the opportunities where they're favored slip but I think they're still right where they need to be. Lots of gold still to be had for Team USA.


They lost a lot of ones in which they were heavy favorites. China will have weightlifting in the final week. Last Olympics they had 38 golds, worst they had since 2000 were 26.

China doesn't miss. Diving, Weightlifting, Table Tennis, Shooting, Badminton, etc.

Wherever they are favorites, 99% of the time their guys will win the gold.


Americans have missed a lot. Albeit, they usually took silver when they did so it's still a medal, if you want to count it as a miss it's your call.

It was a one gold medal difference in Tokyo, it will probably come to the wire again. I agree with you, they can't afford pulling the **** they did in the mixed relay though.


China also cheats in things like swimming so that never helps. We have more firepower overall though with the remaining events I feel - China's got a handful of events left but I think we'll edge them as long as there aren't any other dramatic losses. At the same time you do always some surprises that make up for dramatic losses which evens it out a bit too.
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Post#143 » by bisme37 » Sun Aug 4, 2024 11:03 pm

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bisme37 wrote:Hey did I miss the pre-heats for the women's 400m hurdles? Or that hasn't happened yet?

I had written on a note that the 1st round was on very early this morning and I should watch the replay today, but now I'm not finding what I'm looking for. I need some Femke and Sydney in my life.


Yes, it was. When I go to Peacock and select olympics on the left, and then scroll down from the main feature which is the 100M, it says "Featured Replays" and it is the 3rd one listed. Do you have peacock?


Yeah I have peacock thanks! I've got too many events to watch today and getting all confused as I'm trying to catch up haha. I'll find it.
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Post#144 » by Nuntius » Sun Aug 4, 2024 11:28 pm

Bol and Lyles both coming back and winning the race from behind does make these last two days pretty fun to watch.
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Post#145 » by DutchManDanFan » Sun Aug 4, 2024 11:35 pm

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bisme37 wrote:I've always been a fan of Dalilah Muhammad. Miss seeing her at these Olympics. Still looking forward to the women's 400 meter hurdles though. Sydney and Femke are both amazing.

The non track people don't seem to remotely grasp/understand the talent level of those 2. Femke Bol is a once in a generation talent, she's absolutely incredible. And Sydney is literally a once in 100 years level talent who could probably win gold in 200m-800m and honestly wouldn't shock me if she had the talent to win the 100m as well if she really focused and trained for it.

Like you can't even create a hypothetical matchup in another sport that would approximate those 2 matching up. It'd be like if MJ and Lebron played against each other in the finals at their absolute peaks and had already been dominating the NBA since they were both teenagers to the point where there isn't even a possible discussion that those 2 are the 2 best ever in history.

Except Syd and Femke aren't even in their primes yet. It's just so bonkers.

Men's 10k was crazy today. Fisher managed to still show his insane kick at the end despite the absurd pace, that's super impressive to still have those wheels to close in that fast of a race.


Even Dalilah Muhammad was..the record held for 16 years until she broke it, and then those two emerged to be even better. Of course Bol cam after Sydney, so she hasn't gotten there, but she's young. I personally don't think she will break Sydney's record though.

World record progression....Sydney has broken her own record 4x after setting it.

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I saw something not long ago that showed Sydney, Bol and Muhammad had like the 15 best times ever run..all within the last 5 years. I think most all of them are Sydney and Bol in the last 3 years.

Before the Olympics I thought Sydney was still the clear favourite, but now I'm not so sure. Femkes PB is only 0.3 behind the World record and she looks better than ever.
It's a shame they can't participate in the 400 flat as well. It would be amazing to see them competing in both events.
It would help if they could get a free trip to the semi finals. They did this in the European Championship.
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Post#146 » by bisme37 » Mon Aug 5, 2024 12:02 am

I caught bits and pieces on NBC this morning but just watched the full women's high jump final.

Yaroslava Mahuchikh is incredible. I feel like she should be a bigger star. World record holder in her event and absolutely beautiful. She won gold for Ukraine today. Only 22. Such a beast.

Congrats to her, Nicola Olyslagers of Australia who took silver, and Iryna Gerashchenko (also from Ukraine) and Eleanor Patterson (also from Australia) who shared the bronze.

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Post#147 » by Black star » Mon Aug 5, 2024 12:04 am

Love him or hate him, sprinting a lifetime PB to win gold in the race after talking yourself up in the run up to it is a peak "put up or shut up" performance. Noah Lyles deserves all his flowers today
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Post#148 » by ReginaldDwight » Mon Aug 5, 2024 12:17 am

Black star wrote:Love him or hate him, sprinting a lifetime PB to win gold in the race after talking yourself up in the run up to it is a peak "put up or shut up" performance. Noah Lyles deserves all his flowers today

In his 2nd best event too.
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Post#149 » by msmoore66 » Mon Aug 5, 2024 3:17 am

Noah Lyles is a star for sure. Such a good final.
10000m was a cracking race too. Not sure how Grant Fisher isn't in the poll!
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Post#150 » by Fencer reregistered » Mon Aug 5, 2024 4:22 am

I didn't know this, but there were only 4 women's track events at the whole 1948 Summer Olympics.

The same woman won all of them.

She was also shotput champion in her native country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_1948_Summer_Olympics_medal_winners
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Post#151 » by DutchManDanFan » Mon Aug 5, 2024 6:53 am

Fencer reregistered wrote:I didn't know this, but there were only 4 women's track events at the whole 1948 Summer Olympics.

The same woman won all of them.

She was also shotput champion in her native country.

Although international competition was stopped by World War II, Blankers-Koen set several world records during that period, in events as diverse as the long jump, the high jump, and sprint and hurdling events.

In 1948 she decided not to take part in all events, but limit herself to four: she dropped the high jump and long jump to concentrate on the 100 m, the 200 m, the 80 m hurdles, and the 4 × 100 m relay. With world records for long jump and high jump she could have won 6 golds... As a mother of 2!
"Her Olympic victories are credited with helping to eliminate the belief that age and motherhood were barriers to success in women's sport."

"Because of the strict amateurism rules in force at the time, she had to turn most offers down. However, a fortnight after the 1948 Olympics, she entertained 35,000 spectators by equalling her 100m world record of 10.8 seconds on Lansdowne Road’s “heavy grass track” Not official and hand clocked, but 10.8 is really fast, even now. Her PB was 11.5 though, World record untill 1952.
After the Olympics she received a new bicycle from the city of Amsterdam.

In 1999, she was voted "Female Athlete of the Century" by the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF).

Also interesting fact: she competed against an intersex person, probably the same as the Algerian boxer: "Foekje Dillema competed in sprinting where she was a rival of Fanny Blankers-Koen. When she refused a sex verification test at age 24, she was banned from competition by the International Association of Athletics Federations in 1950. After her death, it was determined that she was an intersex person."

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Post#152 » by DutchManDanFan » Mon Aug 5, 2024 8:22 am

"Posthumous testing Foekje Dillema

Dillema, having the typical female phenotype, was designated female at birth, raised as a girl and lived her life as a woman. After her death a forensic test on body cells obtained from her clothing showed signs of a Y-chromosome in her DNA. She may have been a genetic mosaic, having cells with either 46,XX (female) or 46,XY (male) chromosomes, in approximately a one-to-one ratio, in her skin. The forensic report speculated that Dillema developed from a zygote with an XXY genotype that promptly divided into a half XX, half XY embryo through nondisjunction. Dillema was probably a 46XX/46XY woman.[8] This is also known as ovotesticular disorder of sex development (DSD) or true hermaphroditism.

Her biographer Max Dohle concludes that Dillema, having a Y-chromosome, would never have been allowed to race in the last 45 years. The Barr body test (1966) as well as the test based on PCR (1992) scan for a Y-chromosome or an SRY-gene on the Y-chromosome. All female athletes with a Y-chromosome were expelled from competition from 1966 until 2011.[10]

Dohle concludes that Dillema was an intersex individual who had ovotesticular DSD. She had an operation on her glands in 1952. During the operation, testes or ovotestes were removed. The SRY-gene on the Y is the testis determining factor, so Dillema may have had infertile testes or ovotestes palpable in her groin. These ovotestes produce more testosterone than ovaries. Higher testosterone levels were considered unfair towards the competition, despite being an entirely natural feature of Dillema's physiology."

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Post#153 » by bwgood77 » Mon Aug 5, 2024 12:27 pm

msmoore66 wrote:Noah Lyles is a star for sure. Such a good final.
10000m was a cracking race too. Not sure how Grant Fisher isn't in the poll!


Maybe I will replace the Masai Russell/Alaysha Thompson option with him, but I want to see a couple more events. Those two are great competitors in the 100m hurdles.
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Post#154 » by bwgood77 » Mon Aug 5, 2024 12:33 pm

I'm surprised the Heptathlon hasn't started. I want to see Anna Hall. She has a good story and has been mentored by Jackie Joyner-Kersee.
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Which only serves to make some of those female sprinter/longer distance records from the 80s look more suspect with the generation improvements in runners (and in the track surfaces as well)

But it's also worth pointing out that last night the top two runners ran 9.79 for a photo-finish for gold.

In 2012 Usain Bolt ran a 9.63 for gold, Yohan Blake ran a 9.75 for silver and Justin Gatlin was at 9.79 for bronze.
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Post#157 » by Slacktard » Mon Aug 5, 2024 2:25 pm

https://sports.yahoo.com/paris-olympics-developed-one-world-170100967.html?

Lengthy read, but there was questions early in the thread about what makes a track a 'fast track'. This goes into the development process of the Olympic track. It featured a lot of research into materials and composition and ultimately took 2 months to manufacture the components and then almost 3 months to install it completely in Paris.

The 'cushioning' has small pockets or air cells which in previous tracks were shaped like hexagons, but apparently research and testing has shown an elliptical shape worked better.

I still think this means the 'faster track' likely is more of an impact on longer races because in a 100m cushioning to reduce your energy strain/fatigue isn't really a thing... but you get into 200m and then especially like 400m/800m/etc... I think we'll see the stars at those distances doing very well on the track. We already saw someone like Femke Bol with one of the best 400m relay splits in recent history.
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Post#158 » by azcatz11 » Mon Aug 5, 2024 2:37 pm

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ReginaldDwight wrote:Did you dislike Bolt also? Just is a lame take to have. You must be fun at parties. Let the guys have some fun.


I'm not very fun at parities honestly. But it's you posting hostile reactions to other people's personal opinions. Which is not very fun either. Cheers.

Being a hater is lame. Youre hating a young dude for showing some personality.


I wasn't rooting for him either. I wanted the Jamaican dude. I find his personality annoying and he's trying way too hard.

Bolt had natural swag. Lyles doesn't. Key difference between the two
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Post#159 » by bwgood77 » Mon Aug 5, 2024 3:03 pm

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Which only serves to make some of those female sprinter/longer distance records from the 80s look more suspect with the generation improvements in runners (and in the track surfaces as well)

But it's also worth pointing out that last night the top two runners ran 9.79 for a photo-finish for gold.

In 2012 Usain Bolt ran a 9.63 for gold, Yohan Blake ran a 9.75 for silver and Justin Gatlin was at 9.79 for bronze.


Elaine Thompson-Herah almost beat FloJo's record last olympics with a 10.54. We are talking about like 16/100ths of a second between the top 7 times...most of these are recent.

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Post#160 » by Slacktard » Mon Aug 5, 2024 6:03 pm

It's really nuts how you watch track and field runners and so many of the athletes for other countries are living/training full-time in the US lol.

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