2024 Olympic BASKETBALL Thread (pt.4.2: Quarterfinals are set!)

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Who wins the quarterfinal games on Tuesday?

Poll ended at Tue Aug 6, 2024 3:42 pm

Germany
58
21%
vs Greece
13
5%
Serbia
50
18%
vs Australia
17
6%
France
8
3%
vs Canada
62
22%
Brazil
6
2%
vs United States
63
23%
 
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Post#21 » by UcanUwill » Mon Aug 5, 2024 9:30 am

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DWadeno3 wrote:Canada and Germany are, to me, closer to the US than to the rest of the pack. Both teams’ players have more familiarity with one another and while Canada has better talent than Germany, the Germans are probably the team with the highest level of cohesiveness and thus teamplay, while their NBA guys in particular are performing very well.

With that being said, we should beat them but highly depending on the coaching staff‘s tactical decision but also pending a hot shooting night for one of the teams coinciding with a cold shooting night for the us, anything can happen.

While Serbia and Australia are not to be underestimated as well, I think we match up better with them.

Sleep-walking against anybody at this stage will be punished nonetheless.

Serbia would probably beat Canada and Germany


Serbia matches very well with these teams, especially Canada, I think. Maple leafs would have no answer for Jokic, but Serbians have somewhat an answer for Canadas perimeter power, Avramovic, who is Shais boogieman himself.

That said, these 3 teams are similar in terms of ability, it would go either way, I do not think we could spot a favorite in these match ups.

I am still amazed how Germany has this team, Basketball is so niche there, its not popular, but somehow they have so many good players seemingly out of nowhere. Germans are among tallest Europeans on average, also they are very multicultural and have athletes for any field, but still, damn, they just became powerhouse overnight it seems,
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Post#22 » by RookieStar » Mon Aug 5, 2024 10:16 am

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DWadeno3 wrote:Canada and Germany are, to me, closer to the US than to the rest of the pack. Both teams’ players have more familiarity with one another and while Canada has better talent than Germany, the Germans are probably the team with the highest level of cohesiveness and thus teamplay, while their NBA guys in particular are performing very well.

With that being said, we should beat them but highly depending on the coaching staff‘s tactical decision but also pending a hot shooting night for one of the teams coinciding with a cold shooting night for the us, anything can happen.

While Serbia and Australia are not to be underestimated as well, I think we match up better with them.

Sleep-walking against anybody at this stage will be punished nonetheless.

Serbia would probably beat Canada and Germany


I dunno... while Joker himself tips the balance heavily against CAN, our guards combined can just overwhelm SER backcourt.

However against GER, they have the bigs to throw against Joker and i dont know anyone athletic and big enough to slow down Franz or fast enough to keep up with Dennis.
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Post#23 » by chudak » Mon Aug 5, 2024 10:41 am

All 3 teams will have a chance to play for a medal if they win the 1/4 like expected, gold or bronze

This was Serbia vs Germany last year without Jokic and Micic:

https://www.espn.com/fiba/boxscore/_/gameId/401596640

Germany probably matches us best with US though out of these 3

But USA big favourite anyway
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Post#24 » by chudak » Mon Aug 5, 2024 10:45 am

Also Serbia Canada from last year

https://www.espn.com/fiba/boxscore/_/gameId/401596631

Serbia no Jokic and Micic, Canada no Murray
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Post#25 » by God Squad » Mon Aug 5, 2024 12:36 pm

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CodeBreaker wrote:
DWadeno3 wrote:Canada and Germany are, to me, closer to the US than to the rest of the pack. Both teams’ players have more familiarity with one another and while Canada has better talent than Germany, the Germans are probably the team with the highest level of cohesiveness and thus teamplay, while their NBA guys in particular are performing very well.

With that being said, we should beat them but highly depending on the coaching staff‘s tactical decision but also pending a hot shooting night for one of the teams coinciding with a cold shooting night for the us, anything can happen.

While Serbia and Australia are not to be underestimated as well, I think we match up better with them.

Sleep-walking against anybody at this stage will be punished nonetheless.

Serbia would probably beat Canada and Germany


Serbia matches very well with these teams, especially Canada, I think. Maple leafs would have no answer for Jokic, but Serbians have somewhat an answer for Canadas perimeter power, Avramovic, who is Shais boogieman himself.

That said, these 3 teams are similar in terms of ability, it would go either way, I do not think we could spot a favorite in these match ups.

I am still amazed how Germany has this team, Basketball is so niche there, its not popular, but somehow they have so many good players seemingly out of nowhere. Germans are among tallest Europeans on average, also they are very multicultural and have athletes for any field, but still, damn, they just became powerhouse overnight it seems,

We have a glaring hole in the center position. USA, Serbia and even France can easily exploit it. In regards to France and Seribia my hope is that our guard/forward play can overpower them. IMO Canada is very beatable, especially for a team like USA or even Serbia.

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Tier 2
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Serbia
France

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Post#26 » by UcanUwill » Mon Aug 5, 2024 12:42 pm

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CodeBreaker wrote:Serbia would probably beat Canada and Germany


Serbia matches very well with these teams, especially Canada, I think. Maple leafs would have no answer for Jokic, but Serbians have somewhat an answer for Canadas perimeter power, Avramovic, who is Shais boogieman himself.

That said, these 3 teams are similar in terms of ability, it would go either way, I do not think we could spot a favorite in these match ups.

I am still amazed how Germany has this team, Basketball is so niche there, its not popular, but somehow they have so many good players seemingly out of nowhere. Germans are among tallest Europeans on average, also they are very multicultural and have athletes for any field, but still, damn, they just became powerhouse overnight it seems,

We have a glaring hole in the center position. USA, Serbia and even France can easily exploit it. In regards to France and Seribia my hope is that our guard/forward play can overpower them. IMO Canada is very beatable, especially for a team like USA or even Serbia.


Birch looked pretty great in that second game, but yes, overall level of talent at bigmen positions is very weak compared to what Canada has at perimeter. Even FIBA Kelly seem to be the thing of the past, he struggled so far, dude was Canada's leader for years, FIBA Patty Mills is a thing, but FIBA Olynyk was also a thing.

Hopefully for Canada, Edey becomes something special. Leonard Miller had hype, but he hasn't showed anything worthy so far.
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Post#27 » by God Squad » Mon Aug 5, 2024 1:13 pm

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UcanUwill wrote:
Serbia matches very well with these teams, especially Canada, I think. Maple leafs would have no answer for Jokic, but Serbians have somewhat an answer for Canadas perimeter power, Avramovic, who is Shais boogieman himself.

That said, these 3 teams are similar in terms of ability, it would go either way, I do not think we could spot a favorite in these match ups.

I am still amazed how Germany has this team, Basketball is so niche there, its not popular, but somehow they have so many good players seemingly out of nowhere. Germans are among tallest Europeans on average, also they are very multicultural and have athletes for any field, but still, damn, they just became powerhouse overnight it seems,

We have a glaring hole in the center position. USA, Serbia and even France can easily exploit it. In regards to France and Seribia my hope is that our guard/forward play can overpower them. IMO Canada is very beatable, especially for a team like USA or even Serbia.


Birch looked pretty great in that second game, but yes, overall level of talent at bigmen positions is very weak compared to what Canada has at perimeter. Even FIBA Kelly seem to be the thing of the past, he struggled so far, dude was Canada's leader for years, FIBA Patty Mills is a thing, but FIBA Olynyk was also a thing.

Hopefully for Canada, Edey becomes something special. Leonard Miller had hype, but he hasn't showed anything worthy so far.

We're pretty much banking on Edey at this point, which I think is a good bet IMO. Canada defintly has it's weakness and shouldn't be slotted above others IMO.
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Post#28 » by BarbaGrizz » Mon Aug 5, 2024 2:45 pm

Is anyone ready to watch Caboclo school Embiid?
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Post#29 » by greekman » Mon Aug 5, 2024 3:22 pm

only the us has more talent than canada. canada's problem is that they are a small team and their second best player murray is behing held hostage by the nuggets. if wiggins and edey were there to to help the defense canada's strengths would be more apparent
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Post#30 » by bisme37 » Mon Aug 5, 2024 4:04 pm

Women's quarterfinals:

Wednesday Aug 7:

Serbia-Australia 5 am ET
Spain-Belgium 8:30 am ET
France-Germany Noon ET
USA-Nigeria 3:30 pm ET
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Post#31 » by cdubbz » Mon Aug 5, 2024 4:11 pm

greekman wrote:only the us has more talent than canada. canada's problem is that they are a small team and their second best player murray is behing held hostage by the nuggets. if wiggins and edey were there to to help the defense canada's strengths would be more apparent


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Post#32 » by durden_tyler » Mon Aug 5, 2024 4:29 pm

BarbaGrizz wrote:Is anyone ready to watch Caboclo school Embiid?

Embiid is due to have a breakout game— could happen against a low basketball IQ big like Caboclo.


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Post#33 » by Drakeem » Mon Aug 5, 2024 5:10 pm

Surprised Canada is so favoured against France. I agree they have the better team but given the match up I'd have it closer to even.
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Post#34 » by knicksfan974 » Mon Aug 5, 2024 6:42 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
CodeBreaker wrote:
DWadeno3 wrote:Canada and Germany are, to me, closer to the US than to the rest of the pack. Both teams’ players have more familiarity with one another and while Canada has better talent than Germany, the Germans are probably the team with the highest level of cohesiveness and thus teamplay, while their NBA guys in particular are performing very well.

With that being said, we should beat them but highly depending on the coaching staff‘s tactical decision but also pending a hot shooting night for one of the teams coinciding with a cold shooting night for the us, anything can happen.

While Serbia and Australia are not to be underestimated as well, I think we match up better with them.

Sleep-walking against anybody at this stage will be punished nonetheless.

Serbia would probably beat Canada and Germany


Serbia matches very well with these teams, especially Canada, I think. Maple leafs would have no answer for Jokic, but Serbians have somewhat an answer for Canadas perimeter power, Avramovic, who is Shais boogieman himself.

That said, these 3 teams are similar in terms of ability, it would go either way, I do not think we could spot a favorite in these match ups.

I am still amazed how Germany has this team, Basketball is so niche there, its not popular, but somehow they have so many good players seemingly out of nowhere. Germans are among tallest Europeans on average, also they are very multicultural and have athletes for any field, but still, damn, they just became powerhouse overnight it seems,


And their future seems bright also, as for example their U18 team just won their first Eurobasket title (vs. Serbia in the final).
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Post#35 » by knicksfan974 » Mon Aug 5, 2024 6:50 pm

Drakeem wrote:Surprised Canada is so favoured against France. I agree they have the better team but given the match up I'd have it closer to even.


Out of those four matchups I also got CAN-FRA as the closest, probably more like a coin-flip. This team France has been very unpredictable so far, not playing too great but the potential is still there.
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Post#36 » by UcanUwill » Mon Aug 5, 2024 6:55 pm

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CodeBreaker wrote:Serbia would probably beat Canada and Germany


Serbia matches very well with these teams, especially Canada, I think. Maple leafs would have no answer for Jokic, but Serbians have somewhat an answer for Canadas perimeter power, Avramovic, who is Shais boogieman himself.

That said, these 3 teams are similar in terms of ability, it would go either way, I do not think we could spot a favorite in these match ups.

I am still amazed how Germany has this team, Basketball is so niche there, its not popular, but somehow they have so many good players seemingly out of nowhere. Germans are among tallest Europeans on average, also they are very multicultural and have athletes for any field, but still, damn, they just became powerhouse overnight it seems,


And their future seems bright also, as for example their U18 team just won their first Eurobasket title (vs. Serbia in the final).


Yeah, they beat my nation in quarterfinals, tho junior success rarely guarantees success later, but it does show that current Olympic team is not a flash in a pan, they are likely here to stay.
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Post#37 » by UcanUwill » Mon Aug 5, 2024 7:04 pm

donkki wrote:
Drakeem wrote:Surprised Canada is so favoured against France. I agree they have the better team but given the match up I'd have it closer to even.


Out of those four matchups I also got CAN-FRA as the closest, probably more like a coin-flip. This team France has been very unpredictable so far, not playing too great but the potential is still there.


France honestly kind off suck badly, they do not look much better than Last year, where they didn't even make out of the group. If not controversial escape in Japan game, they could have flopped even more badly than last year.

I think this match up shows how much more important guards are in todays game. We talked how Canada has no good bigs, but you rather be this way than the opposite. Have good guards, and game is unlock, they will create offense, they will make mediocre bigs better etc. Canada is that, and France is complete opposite of that. They might create Canada troubles if they win rebounding battle big time, but overall, Canada has far more convincing team.

I remember watching Pau in his prime and dreamed, damn, I wish my country had Pau. And despite Pau being amazing, one of the FIBA GOATs, he had amazing guards also. My team later got Jonas and Domantas who suppose to be good, but we achieved nothing, because guard play sucks. It is no coincidence I think, that my team never had best success during Sabonis era, or Valančiūnas era, we were the best during Jasikevičius era. With crap guards, bigs can only do so much, and France is epitome of that in this tournament.
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Post#38 » by greekman » Mon Aug 5, 2024 8:45 pm

chudak wrote:Also Serbia Canada from last year

https://www.espn.com/fiba/boxscore/_/gameId/401596631

Serbia no Jokic and Micic, Canada no Murray


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Post#39 » by Edrees » Mon Aug 5, 2024 9:02 pm

Serbia vs Australia will be close. Dont know who will win.
Germany will win somewhat comfortable against greece
Canada will win by about 20 vs France
USA also will be a blowout
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Post#40 » by Black Jack » Mon Aug 5, 2024 9:44 pm

greekman wrote:only the us has more talent than canada. canada's problem is that they are a small team and their second best player murray is behing held hostage by the nuggets. if wiggins and edey were there to to help the defense canada's strengths would be more apparent


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