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GONYK wrote:By all accounts, Giants held their own against the Lions today.
The FO made the decision to compete to the best of their ability this year, so tests like this are encouraging.
mpharris36 wrote:TerrenceClarke wrote:Just remember when I was saying months ago the Giants wont be in the running for a top QB this year. I always use the Knicks, buts its the same scenario. Just good enough to miss out on the top cats.
Its a tough place to be in. However, tough to be mad at the team if they are competing for a WC spot if they are playing and being coached well.
I look at it like this if the Giants are better then expected the defense has to be pretty good and Jones and the passing attack with Nabers/Hyatt/Robinson has to be doing pretty well as well (which also means the OL has to be holding up somewhat).
They certainly built the team to prioritize the passing attack more (adding Nabers and letting Barkley go). Even Hardknocks kinda insinuated that there pivot from trading up for a QB was running it back with DJ and giving him a pathway to improve.
If they do well its hard to be upset, if they do bad they probably will be in the top 10 with a chance for a QB via the draft. I don't know what kinda season Jones would have to have for you to be ok with not getting a top QB in next year class, any thoughts?
TerrenceClarke wrote:Just remember when I was saying months ago the Giants wont be in the running for a top QB this year. I always use the Knicks, buts its the same scenario. Just good enough to miss out on the top cats.
3toheadmelo wrote:TerrenceClarke wrote:Just remember when I was saying months ago the Giants wont be in the running for a top QB this year. I always use the Knicks, buts its the same scenario. Just good enough to miss out on the top cats.
we back?
TerrenceClarke wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:TerrenceClarke wrote:Just remember when I was saying months ago the Giants wont be in the running for a top QB this year. I always use the Knicks, buts its the same scenario. Just good enough to miss out on the top cats.
we back?
Nah. I don’t see it. Unless he slides from top 10. I see our range being middle of the pack type. We was super ass last year and still got 6th in the draft. With all the money spent and having a WR Corp. I see us closer to 9+
3toheadmelo wrote:TerrenceClarke wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:we back?
Nah. I don’t see it. Unless he slides from top 10. I see our range being middle of the pack type. We was super ass last year and still got 6th in the draft. With all the money spent and having a WR Corp. I see us closer to 9+
mpharris36 wrote:GONYK wrote:By all accounts, Giants held their own against the Lions today.
The FO made the decision to compete to the best of their ability this year, so tests like this are encouraging.
Lions were a play or two away from the Superbowl...they are one of the favs to get there again this year. Hopefully its not just one day...but the Giants were smacked around by Lions last year during these joint practices so to compete with them today is promising. Hopefully they can do the same tomorrow.
TerrenceClarke wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:TerrenceClarke wrote:Just remember when I was saying months ago the Giants wont be in the running for a top QB this year. I always use the Knicks, buts its the same scenario. Just good enough to miss out on the top cats.
we back?
Nah. I don’t see it. Unless he slides from top 10. I see our range being middle of the pack type. We was super ass last year and still got 6th in the draft. With all the money spent and having a WR Corp. I see us closer to 9+
F N 11 wrote:Nabers was Nabers but my biggest take away was giants line is serious on both ends.a
Andru Phillips is a dog
MrDollarBills wrote:F N 11 wrote:Nabers was Nabers but my biggest take away was giants line is serious on both ends.a
Andru Phillips is a dog
Having an actual RT that can play the position makes a huge difference. Barring any injuries, I think it's a wrap for Neal here.
Flott got lit up out there. We need to get a veteran CB2, enough is enough.
Danny needs to keep the beard.
mpharris36 wrote:GONYK wrote:By all accounts, Giants held their own against the Lions today.
The FO made the decision to compete to the best of their ability this year, so tests like this are encouraging.
Lions were a play or two away from the Superbowl...they are one of the favs to get there again this year. Hopefully its not just one day...but the Giants were smacked around by Lions last year during these joint practices so to compete with them today is promising. Hopefully they can do the same tomorrow.
mpharris36 wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:F N 11 wrote:Nabers was Nabers but my biggest take away was giants line is serious on both ends.a
Andru Phillips is a dog
Having an actual RT that can play the position makes a huge difference. Barring any injuries, I think it's a wrap for Neal here.
Flott got lit up out there. We need to get a veteran CB2, enough is enough.
Danny needs to keep the beard.
I think McCloud will eventually beat out Flott for the CB2. Phillips looks good in the slot.
TerrenceClarke wrote:mpharris36 wrote:TerrenceClarke wrote:Just remember when I was saying months ago the Giants wont be in the running for a top QB this year. I always use the Knicks, buts its the same scenario. Just good enough to miss out on the top cats.
Its a tough place to be in. However, tough to be mad at the team if they are competing for a WC spot if they are playing and being coached well.
I look at it like this if the Giants are better then expected the defense has to be pretty good and Jones and the passing attack with Nabers/Hyatt/Robinson has to be doing pretty well as well (which also means the OL has to be holding up somewhat).
They certainly built the team to prioritize the passing attack more (adding Nabers and letting Barkley go). Even Hardknocks kinda insinuated that there pivot from trading up for a QB was running it back with DJ and giving him a pathway to improve.
If they do well its hard to be upset, if they do bad they probably will be in the top 10 with a chance for a QB via the draft. I don't know what kinda season Jones would have to have for you to be ok with not getting a top QB in next year class, any thoughts?
There is nothing Jones can do short of winning a Super Bowl next year for me to not want a different QB.
So that means I’m going to want a new QB.
He made it to the second round 2 years ago and still was ass….. he would have to clean up every flaw he had for me to taking him from my scope and I don’t see that happening. He is kinda old at this point to show real promise moving forward. Very rare bum QBs take some huge jump at Jones age.
So yeah….. SB or bust.
mpharris36 wrote:
TraveyKnicks31 wrote:TerrenceClarke wrote:mpharris36 wrote:
Its a tough place to be in. However, tough to be mad at the team if they are competing for a WC spot if they are playing and being coached well.
I look at it like this if the Giants are better then expected the defense has to be pretty good and Jones and the passing attack with Nabers/Hyatt/Robinson has to be doing pretty well as well (which also means the OL has to be holding up somewhat).
They certainly built the team to prioritize the passing attack more (adding Nabers and letting Barkley go). Even Hardknocks kinda insinuated that there pivot from trading up for a QB was running it back with DJ and giving him a pathway to improve.
If they do well its hard to be upset, if they do bad they probably will be in the top 10 with a chance for a QB via the draft. I don't know what kinda season Jones would have to have for you to be ok with not getting a top QB in next year class, any thoughts?
There is nothing Jones can do short of winning a Super Bowl next year for me to not want a different QB.
So that means I’m going to want a new QB.
He made it to the second round 2 years ago and still was ass….. he would have to clean up every flaw he had for me to taking him from my scope and I don’t see that happening. He is kinda old at this point to show real promise moving forward. Very rare bum QBs take some huge jump at Jones age.
So yeah….. SB or bust.
No QB is surviving under those lines DJ had how TF do you even properly evaluate him under those circumstances?
TerrenceClarke wrote:mpharris36 wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:
Having an actual RT that can play the position makes a huge difference. Barring any injuries, I think it's a wrap for Neal here.
Flott got lit up out there. We need to get a veteran CB2, enough is enough.
Danny needs to keep the beard.
I think McCloud will eventually beat out Flott for the CB2. Phillips looks good in the slot.
thats nasty work then. Flott was supposed to have promise. Another bullet in my gun.....