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Randle's Future

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What would you do with Randle?

Poll ended at Sun Aug 4, 2024 1:01 pm

Keep him for this season, then let him walk
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12%
Extend him now (Aug 3 deadline)
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57%
Trade him now (add details in comments)
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17%
Other (please put in comments)
13
14%
 
Total votes: 93

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Re: Randle's Future 

Post#261 » by KnicksGadfly » Wed Aug 7, 2024 2:35 am

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Chislic wrote:The Knicks going 12-2 in January is not an argument to keep Randle. Small sample size. Not proof of concept. No, this doesn't prove he fits. It's called a winning streak. Compatibility can be temporary. (When all players are locked in and playing unselfish.)

Randle went 12-1 with RJ Barrett TWICE. How compatible were they?? :crazy:


Can't tell if you're for or against or being sarcastic. You want him part of this team or not? Cuz all you seemed to show is that we play well with Randle nomatter what group of guys we play with him. And our record since he's been here sortve proves it. I watched him win with Elfrid Peyton, Reggie Bullock, a sophomore RJ and Nerlens Noel. There is no, nor has there ever been a lineup he doesn't fit into. So idk what fit people are talking about.


Well, considering Randle has a 166-164 with the Knicks, I'm not sure what you've proving, considering we've had a 47 and 50 win season with Brunson leading the team these past 2 years.

Randle is a **** fit with so many players...I'm not even sure he would even do the dirty work needed to play on the Olympics team. It's never been an issue with ability for him. Just whether he wants to sacrifice. That's why if anyone asks me to eat crow for Randle again, they're going to have to specify what type of crow they want to serve. "Eat some crow...I told you Randle would be willing to play defense 4 years later! You should have never doubted him...just trade for an All-NBA defender who we need to pay 40 mill a year to, and I promise you he will play defense for 14 games!"
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Post#262 » by Hatrick Ewing » Wed Aug 7, 2024 4:28 am

People are acting like Randle is Al Harrington when he could've made his 3rd of 4th ALL NBA TEAM LAST YEAR!! Please don't Ewing this guy. I'm sick of people only saying trade Julius when the argument literally falls apart when you ask "for who?" He has his flaws and we have to see what he does in the playoffs, but holy **** man cmon.

No offense intended for Al Harrington, got buckets here.
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Post#263 » by knicks94 » Wed Aug 7, 2024 6:31 am

Hatrick Ewing wrote:People are acting like Randle is Al Harrington when he could've made his 3rd of 4th ALL NBA TEAM LAST YEAR!! Please don't Ewing this guy. I'm sick of people only saying trade Julius when the argument literally falls apart when you ask "for who?" He has his flaws and we have to see what he does in the playoffs, but holy **** man cmon.

No offense intended for Al Harrington, got buckets here.

Randle will never be embraced by a large percentage of Knicks fans until he proves that he can be a Kawhi Leonard or Jimmy Butler in the playoffs.
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Re: Randle's Future 

Post#264 » by KnicksGadfly » Wed Aug 7, 2024 12:07 pm

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Hatrick Ewing wrote:People are acting like Randle is Al Harrington when he could've made his 3rd of 4th ALL NBA TEAM LAST YEAR!! Please don't Ewing this guy. I'm sick of people only saying trade Julius when the argument literally falls apart when you ask "for who?" He has his flaws and we have to see what he does in the playoffs, but holy **** man cmon.

No offense intended for Al Harrington, got buckets here.

Randle will never be embraced by a large percentage of Knicks fans until he proves that he can be a Kawhi Leonard or Jimmy Butler in the playoffs.


Ah, the Lebron James argument. Exaggerate so we can discuss how victimized Randle is. We shouldn’t even discuss Butler or Kawhi until Randle surpasses a lot more players - he’s not even close.

Let’s discuss other guys instead (in terms of defensive effort). Nikola Jokic…has a heavier offensive burden than Randle but has used his IQ and body and willingness to move to become an average defender. Jalen Brunson…he’s always gonna be a weak defender cause he’s small but he’s always willing to sacrifice, be in the right place, and take charges. If we’re never going to see 2020-2021 Randle ever again, give me that at least.

Give me Andrew Wiggins in the finals…started rebounding like a mad man. Of course, afterwards he started boasting about how rebounding was easy. Then he stopped doing it. But hey, like Randle, he showed he can be good when he wants to.

I think people need to ask themselves why we don’t give Josh Hart the same shyt? He’s not as gifted as Randle on offense. He clanks more shots. He’s willing to play a ton of minutes. Give me 50% of Josh Hart effort.
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Post#265 » by SelbyCobra » Wed Aug 7, 2024 6:24 pm

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Post#266 » by Iron Mantis » Wed Aug 7, 2024 6:43 pm

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If Randle is willing to take a deal like that you extend him immediately before he changes his mind.
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Post#267 » by aggo » Wed Aug 7, 2024 9:37 pm

maybe we're not even willing to offer him 4/182
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Post#268 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Aug 7, 2024 9:55 pm

Knicks trade Randle yet?
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Post#269 » by knicks94 » Wed Aug 7, 2024 10:00 pm

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Hatrick Ewing wrote:People are acting like Randle is Al Harrington when he could've made his 3rd of 4th ALL NBA TEAM LAST YEAR!! Please don't Ewing this guy. I'm sick of people only saying trade Julius when the argument literally falls apart when you ask "for who?" He has his flaws and we have to see what he does in the playoffs, but holy **** man cmon.

No offense intended for Al Harrington, got buckets here.

Randle will never be embraced by a large percentage of Knicks fans until he proves that he can be a Kawhi Leonard or Jimmy Butler in the playoffs.


Ah, the Lebron James argument. Exaggerate so we can discuss how victimized Randle is. We shouldn’t even discuss Butler or Kawhi until Randle surpasses a lot more players - he’s not even close.

Let’s discuss other guys instead (in terms of defensive effort). Nikola Jokic…has a heavier offensive burden than Randle but has used his IQ and body and willingness to move to become an average defender. Jalen Brunson…he’s always gonna be a weak defender cause he’s small but he’s always willing to sacrifice, be in the right place, and take charges. If we’re never going to see 2020-2021 Randle ever again, give me that at least.

Give me Andrew Wiggins in the finals…started rebounding like a mad man. Of course, afterwards he started boasting about how rebounding was easy. Then he stopped doing it. But hey, like Randle, he showed he can be good when he wants to.

I think people need to ask themselves why we don’t give Josh Hart the same shyt? He’s not as gifted as Randle on offense. He clanks more shots. He’s willing to play a ton of minutes. Give me 50% of Josh Hart effort.


I am neither defending Randle or saying that because he doesn't match the playoff performance of certain players that he gets a pass. What I'm saying is that Randle will not be embraced by a large percentage of Knicks fans until he proves that he can get it done in the playoffs. NY sports fans do not care if a guy puts up great numbers in the regular season, but disappears in the playoffs; I know since I lived through the years in which Arod gave his team nothing in the postseason.
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Post#270 » by Zenzibar » Wed Aug 7, 2024 10:24 pm

knicks94 wrote:
KnicksGadfly wrote:
knicks94 wrote:Randle will never be embraced by a large percentage of Knicks fans until he proves that he can be a Kawhi Leonard or Jimmy Butler in the playoffs.


Ah, the Lebron James argument. Exaggerate so we can discuss how victimized Randle is. We shouldn’t even discuss Butler or Kawhi until Randle surpasses a lot more players - he’s not even close.

Let’s discuss other guys instead (in terms of defensive effort). Nikola Jokic…has a heavier offensive burden than Randle but has used his IQ and body and willingness to move to become an average defender. Jalen Brunson…he’s always gonna be a weak defender cause he’s small but he’s always willing to sacrifice, be in the right place, and take charges. If we’re never going to see 2020-2021 Randle ever again, give me that at least.

Give me Andrew Wiggins in the finals…started rebounding like a mad man. Of course, afterwards he started boasting about how rebounding was easy. Then he stopped doing it. But hey, like Randle, he showed he can be good when he wants to.

I think people need to ask themselves why we don’t give Josh Hart the same shyt? He’s not as gifted as Randle on offense. He clanks more shots. He’s willing to play a ton of minutes. Give me 50% of Josh Hart effort.


I am neither defending Randle or saying that because he doesn't match the playoff performance of certain players that he gets a pass. What I'm saying is that Randle will not be embraced by a large percentage of Knicks fans until he proves that he can get it done in the playoffs. NY sports fans do not care if a guy puts up great numbers in the regular season, but disappears in the playoffs; I know since I lived through the years in which Arod gave his team nothing in the postseason.


As far as large percentage, according to the votes, a large percentage of fans go, the majority want him extended.
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Post#271 » by Hatrick Ewing » Thu Aug 8, 2024 3:07 am

knicks94 wrote:
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knicks94 wrote:Randle will never be embraced by a large percentage of Knicks fans until he proves that he can be a Kawhi Leonard or Jimmy Butler in the playoffs.


Ah, the Lebron James argument. Exaggerate so we can discuss how victimized Randle is. We shouldn’t even discuss Butler or Kawhi until Randle surpasses a lot more players - he’s not even close.

Let’s discuss other guys instead (in terms of defensive effort). Nikola Jokic…has a heavier offensive burden than Randle but has used his IQ and body and willingness to move to become an average defender. Jalen Brunson…he’s always gonna be a weak defender cause he’s small but he’s always willing to sacrifice, be in the right place, and take charges. If we’re never going to see 2020-2021 Randle ever again, give me that at least.

Give me Andrew Wiggins in the finals…started rebounding like a mad man. Of course, afterwards he started boasting about how rebounding was easy. Then he stopped doing it. But hey, like Randle, he showed he can be good when he wants to.

I think people need to ask themselves why we don’t give Josh Hart the same shyt? He’s not as gifted as Randle on offense. He clanks more shots. He’s willing to play a ton of minutes. Give me 50% of Josh Hart effort.


I am neither defending Randle or saying that because he doesn't match the playoff performance of certain players that he gets a pass. What I'm saying is that Randle will not be embraced by a large percentage of Knicks fans until he proves that he can get it done in the playoffs. NY sports fans do not care if a guy puts up great numbers in the regular season, but disappears in the playoffs; I know since I lived through the years in which Arod gave his team nothing in the postseason.


To be clear, Randle has played in 1 playoff series without a serious injury since joining the Knicks.
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Post#272 » by seren » Thu Aug 8, 2024 3:29 am

I doubt Randle will take a 3/100 type of offer. Especially with the guaranteed money that he has. Teams will have cap space next summer. I think it would take a bit more than that. Something around Brunson money
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Post#274 » by DaGawd » Thu Aug 8, 2024 5:45 am

aggo wrote:https://www.basketballnetwork.net/latest-news/andre-iguodala-offers-a-warning-to-julius-randle-amid-his-uncertain-future-with-the-knicks

stupid take
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Post#275 » by KnicksGadfly » Thu Aug 8, 2024 10:52 am

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knicks94 wrote:
KnicksGadfly wrote:
Ah, the Lebron James argument. Exaggerate so we can discuss how victimized Randle is. We shouldn’t even discuss Butler or Kawhi until Randle surpasses a lot more players - he’s not even close.

Let’s discuss other guys instead (in terms of defensive effort). Nikola Jokic…has a heavier offensive burden than Randle but has used his IQ and body and willingness to move to become an average defender. Jalen Brunson…he’s always gonna be a weak defender cause he’s small but he’s always willing to sacrifice, be in the right place, and take charges. If we’re never going to see 2020-2021 Randle ever again, give me that at least.

Give me Andrew Wiggins in the finals…started rebounding like a mad man. Of course, afterwards he started boasting about how rebounding was easy. Then he stopped doing it. But hey, like Randle, he showed he can be good when he wants to.

I think people need to ask themselves why we don’t give Josh Hart the same shyt? He’s not as gifted as Randle on offense. He clanks more shots. He’s willing to play a ton of minutes. Give me 50% of Josh Hart effort.


I am neither defending Randle or saying that because he doesn't match the playoff performance of certain players that he gets a pass. What I'm saying is that Randle will not be embraced by a large percentage of Knicks fans until he proves that he can get it done in the playoffs. NY sports fans do not care if a guy puts up great numbers in the regular season, but disappears in the playoffs; I know since I lived through the years in which Arod gave his team nothing in the postseason.


To be clear, Randle has played in 1 playoff series without a serious injury since joining the Knicks.


Injury prone huh? Good point man…better be careful about that
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Post#276 » by Iron Mantis » Thu Aug 8, 2024 10:55 am

aggo wrote:https://www.basketballnetwork.net/latest-news/andre-iguodala-offers-a-warning-to-julius-randle-amid-his-uncertain-future-with-the-knicks


No way that happens :lol:

Fun read though...keep bringing that heat aggo!!!
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Post#277 » by KnicksGadfly » Thu Aug 8, 2024 1:21 pm

seren wrote:I doubt Randle will take a 3/100 type of offer. Especially with the guaranteed money that he has. Teams will have cap space next summer. I think it would take a bit more than that. Something around Brunson money


In terms of teams with cap space, it'll be Spurs, Hornets, Pistons, Jazz, Wizards and Rockets. A few rebuilding teams there...really hard to see a good fit for Randle anywhere. Things might change, but hard to see any of them maxing Randle. Might be a sign and trade scenario, if things don't go well.
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Post#278 » by aggo » Mon Aug 12, 2024 3:39 pm

Well?
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Post#279 » by Iron Mantis » Wed Aug 14, 2024 11:04 am

When is the deadline for the Knicks to extend him?
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Post#280 » by Nazrmohamed » Wed Aug 14, 2024 12:32 pm

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knicks94 wrote:
KnicksGadfly wrote:
Ah, the Lebron James argument. Exaggerate so we can discuss how victimized Randle is. We shouldn’t even discuss Butler or Kawhi until Randle surpasses a lot more players - he’s not even close.

Let’s discuss other guys instead (in terms of defensive effort). Nikola Jokic…has a heavier offensive burden than Randle but has used his IQ and body and willingness to move to become an average defender. Jalen Brunson…he’s always gonna be a weak defender cause he’s small but he’s always willing to sacrifice, be in the right place, and take charges. If we’re never going to see 2020-2021 Randle ever again, give me that at least.

Give me Andrew Wiggins in the finals…started rebounding like a mad man. Of course, afterwards he started boasting about how rebounding was easy. Then he stopped doing it. But hey, like Randle, he showed he can be good when he wants to.

I think people need to ask themselves why we don’t give Josh Hart the same shyt? He’s not as gifted as Randle on offense. He clanks more shots. He’s willing to play a ton of minutes. Give me 50% of Josh Hart effort.


I am neither defending Randle or saying that because he doesn't match the playoff performance of certain players that he gets a pass. What I'm saying is that Randle will not be embraced by a large percentage of Knicks fans until he proves that he can get it done in the playoffs. NY sports fans do not care if a guy puts up great numbers in the regular season, but disappears in the playoffs; I know since I lived through the years in which Arod gave his team nothing in the postseason.


To be clear, Randle has played in 1 playoff series without a serious injury since joining the Knicks.


To add, after being in the top 5 in minutes during the regular season most yrs except this last one where we actually got him to 34minutes. So we rode him like a workhorse and he paid for it. All on a discounted contract.

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