Midseason trade: LAL - Brooklyn - NOP

Godaddycurse · Post #1 » by **Godaddycurse** » Thu Aug 8, 2024 1:15 am

NOP trade: Ingram, JRE
NOP receive: Claxton, JHS

Brooklyn trade: Claxton
Brooklyn receive: Russell, Hachimura, LAL 2029 unprotected 1st

LAL trade: Russell, Hachimura, JHS, 2029 unprotected 1st
LAL receive: Ingram, JRE

Why for LAL: add a 3rd star to Lebron/AD
Why for NOP: add a starting C for Ingram
Why for Brooklyn: get a future unprotected post AD/Lebron 1st

Colbinii · Post #2 » by **Colbinii** » Thu Aug 8, 2024 1:43 am

I don't think Ingram has this value.

ecuhus1981 · Post #3 » by **ecuhus1981** » Thu Aug 8, 2024 1:48 am

I don't want to trade Clax, but give us JHS instead of Rui, and I would at least consider it.

Godaddycurse · Post #4 » by **Godaddycurse** » Thu Aug 8, 2024 1:58 am

Colbinii wrote:I don't think Ingram has this value.

he's not even worth 1 future unprotected 1st?

JKiddy · Post #5 » by **JKiddy** » Thu Aug 8, 2024 3:00 pm

The Nets would trade an on the fence All-Star/future All-Defense player for a 1st? I do not see them making this mistake.

Godaddycurse · Post #6 » by **Godaddycurse** » Thu Aug 8, 2024 3:05 pm

JKiddy wrote:The Nets would trade an on the fence All-Star/future All-Defense player for a 1st? I do not see them making this mistake.

Well fortunately Claxton is neither of those things

Colbinii · Post #7 » by **Colbinii** » Thu Aug 8, 2024 3:21 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:
Colbinii wrote:I don't think Ingram has this value.

he's not even worth 1 future unprotected 1st?

At the trade deadline? No.

Look what Siakam was moved for.

Colbinii · Post #8 » by **Colbinii** » Thu Aug 8, 2024 3:23 pm

JKiddy wrote:The Nets would trade an on the fence All-Star/future All-Defense player for a 1st? I do not see them making this mistake.

Claxton is like a Top 75-100 player. How is he ever going to become an All-Star?

JKiddy · Post #9 » by **JKiddy** » Thu Aug 8, 2024 4:29 pm

He won't be this until 2025/26 when the cast changes. But, he's considered a Top 60 player now. He cannot achieve more until the team is better. It will take 2 seasons.

Post #10 » by **zimpy27** » Thu Aug 8, 2024 11:09 pm

Lakers would hold Rui, rather they move Vando and Vincent..but there is something here with these 3 teams.

Nets get DLo, Vincent, FRPs
Pels get Claxton, Vando
Lakers get Ingram, Sharpe

JKiddy · Post #11 » by **JKiddy** » Sat Aug 10, 2024 2:11 pm

If the Nets got 3 FRPs that were unprotected they might consider this. But, if not they would not even pick up the phone. They truly value Claxton very very very much. He is young, on a great contract, and is a top 10 defensive player in the league, who is only improving offensively. I just do not see them taking on DLO now. It won't work.

brackdan70 · Post #12 » by **brackdan70** » Sun Aug 11, 2024 12:54 am

Colbinii wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
Colbinii wrote:I don't think Ingram has this value.

he's not even worth 1 future unprotected 1st?

At the trade deadline? No.

Look what Siakam was moved for.

Wasn’t it a solid player (Brown) filler and three firsts?

Karmaloop · Post #13 » by **Karmaloop** » Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:02 am

JKiddy wrote:If the Nets got 3 FRPs that were unprotected they might consider this. But, if not they would not even pick up the phone. They truly value Claxton very very very much. He is young, on a great contract, and is a top 10 defensive player in the league, who is only improving offensively. I just do not see them taking on DLO now. It won't work.

Role players don't fetch unprotected FRPs, let alone multiples of them.

Godaddycurse · Post #14 » by **Godaddycurse** » Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:33 am

Karmaloop wrote:
JKiddy wrote:If the Nets got 3 FRPs that were unprotected they might consider this. But, if not they would not even pick up the phone. They truly value Claxton very very very much. He is young, on a great contract, and is a top 10 defensive player in the league, who is only improving offensively. I just do not see them taking on DLO now. It won't work.

Role players don't fetch unprotected FRPs, let alone multiples of them.

Nobody told new york that..

JeffFosters · Post #15 » by **JeffFosters** » Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:34 am

brackdan70 wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
he's not even worth 1 future unprotected 1st?

At the trade deadline? No.

Look what Siakam was moved for.

Wasn’t it a solid player (Brown) filler and three firsts?

Maybe he thinks Ingram is worth more than that, but I would’ve thought that lakers pick is enough to get it done.

The Ingram fit on LA isn’t too bad, if they’re around they play-in again they’d have to consider it.

JKiddy · Post #16 » by **JKiddy** » Sun Aug 11, 2024 6:19 pm

Claxton is not just a "role player" lol

mademan · Post #17 » by **mademan** » Sun Aug 11, 2024 6:22 pm

Feel like the Lakers would be better off taking Claxton here.

Colbinii · Post #18 » by **Colbinii** » Sun Aug 11, 2024 8:16 pm

brackdan70 wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
he's not even worth 1 future unprotected 1st?

At the trade deadline? No.

Look what Siakam was moved for.

Wasn’t it a solid player (Brown) filler and three firsts?

Not all 1st are created equal.

It was 2 mid-late 1sts in a historically weak draft, a Top 4 protected pick 2.5 years out, and an overpaid role player in Bruce Brown [Salary Filler].

Karmaloop · Post #19 » by **Karmaloop** » Sun Aug 11, 2024 8:23 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:Nobody told new york that..

Something about calling Bridges a role player is...odd.

jdiddy wrote:Claxton is not just a "role player" lol

He is. Can he create offense for himself or others? He's a really good player that 99% of the league would like to have on a value contract. But let's not inflate his contract beyond what it actually is. If you want to say that you'd need 3 unprotected FRPs to move him, sure. But let's not pretend like that's what his value is around the league.

brackdan70 · Post #20 » by **brackdan70** » Sun Aug 11, 2024 9:27 pm

Colbinii wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
At the trade deadline? No.

Look what Siakam was moved for.

Wasn’t it a solid player (Brown) filler and three firsts?

Not all 1st are created equal.

It was 2 mid-late 1sts in a historically weak draft, a Top 4 protected pick 2.5 years out, and an overpaid role player in Bruce Brown [Salary Filler].

Right. I don’t think anyone is suggesting unprotected picks or likely lotto picks need to be part of an Ingram package either.
The post you were ready to asked about a single unprotected pick. Doesn’t seem out of line for Ingram.it depends on the team for sure and likely a protected is more realistic