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The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2

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Assuming this is the last major addition, are you more excited than you were last offseason?

Yes
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No
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About the same
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1861 » by Qwigglez » Wed Aug 7, 2024 11:10 pm

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A few years ago I was curious where you lived (I think it was you) so I looked where your IP was coming from and it said Guam. Were you ever there?


Yep for like half my life :lol:


Seems like it would be a nice place to live. Isn't it always like 70-80 degrees there year round? That's like San Diego weather.


Guam was always one of my favorite places to visit. The locals are nice and the weather is great. I also got my PADI scuba diving certification there. It feels like a lifetime ago, but I’d love to go back soon.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1862 » by Fo-Real » Wed Aug 7, 2024 11:55 pm

Nassir little is still on our roster. Any chance he more lives up to what was thought to be his potential with diffrent coaching and team familiarity?
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1863 » by JRoy » Wed Aug 7, 2024 11:56 pm

Fo-Real wrote:Nassir little is still on our roster. Any chance he more lives up to what was thought to be his potential with diffrent coaching and team familiarity?


No.

He sucks.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1864 » by sunskerr » Thu Aug 8, 2024 12:03 am

Qwigglez wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
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Yep for like half my life :lol:


Seems like it would be a nice place to live. Isn't it always like 70-80 degrees there year round? That's like San Diego weather.


Guam was always one of my favorite places to visit. The locals are nice and the weather is great. I also got my PADI scuba diving certification there. It feels like a lifetime ago, but I’d love to go back soon.


Yeah it's about 80 year round. Probably quite a bit more humid than San Diego so you'll get covered in sweat. All things considered it's a pretty sweet place to live especially if you like beaches and warm weather

Did you get your PADI cert from MDA? That's where I got mine though its expired. Maybe we've been in the same building lol.

If yous are ever on island just give me a dm we'll grab some drinks. I moved back a few weeks ago though probably won't be staying for too long.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1865 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Aug 8, 2024 12:30 am

Fo-Real wrote:Nassir little is still on our roster. Any chance he more lives up to what was thought to be his potential with diffrent coaching and team familiarity?

Issue with him is he doesn't do anything particularly well. Inconsistent 3PT shooter, OK man defense but gets lost very often on defensive rotations so is an overall negative, and offensively he just doesn't really have a particular niche ie he's not some great cutter, not a really consistent corner 3 guy, not even really a straight line driver, doesn't handle the ball that well....

One of the bigger issue with him is that he gets injured often. He's never played more than 54 games and averages just over 47 games a season. So even if he finds some consistency over a stretch, he'll get injured and you won't see him again for another half dozen games.

The only thing on his side is that he's relatively young as he doesn't turn 25 until the all-star break so he could still find a niche in the NBA that would allow him to contribute when he's not injured. He'll have value for example if he's able to hit corner 3's at a decent clip and just be an energy dude grabbing rebounds (which might be one of his better skills) and creating opportunities from stocks
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1866 » by garrick » Thu Aug 8, 2024 2:50 am

JRoy wrote:
Fo-Real wrote:Nassir little is still on our roster. Any chance he more lives up to what was thought to be his potential with diffrent coaching and team familiarity?


No.

He sucks.


At 25 he is pretty much who he is at this point and I don't see any team wanting him at his current salary. He is very much a vet minimum kind of guy because he is extremely inconsistent and isn't big enough to play PF.

This is the problem with tweeners they don't really fit into a role due to their physical limitations and is probably the same route that Dunn will take.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1867 » by JRoy » Thu Aug 8, 2024 3:09 am

garrick wrote:
JRoy wrote:
Fo-Real wrote:Nassir little is still on our roster. Any chance he more lives up to what was thought to be his potential with diffrent coaching and team familiarity?


No.

He sucks.


At 25 he is pretty much who he is at this point and I don't see any team wanting him at his current salary. He is very much a vet minimum kind of guy because he is extremely inconsistent and isn't big enough to play PF.

This is the problem with tweeners they don't really fit into a role due to their physical limitations and is probably the same route that Dunn will take.


Always injured and terrible.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1868 » by sunsbg » Thu Aug 8, 2024 3:58 am

Little and Okogie cost a lot and it's doubtful they are much better players than the guys on 2 way contracts. Paying those two just shows Matt's commitment to winning.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1869 » by garrick » Thu Aug 8, 2024 5:40 am

JRoy wrote:
garrick wrote:
JRoy wrote:
No.

He sucks.


At 25 he is pretty much who he is at this point and I don't see any team wanting him at his current salary. He is very much a vet minimum kind of guy because he is extremely inconsistent and isn't big enough to play PF.

This is the problem with tweeners they don't really fit into a role due to their physical limitations and is probably the same route that Dunn will take.


Always injured and terrible.


Portland got the better end of this deal I think, Camara looks like a keeper on an affordable deal and is a clear upgrade over Little.

Johnson was trash and Nurkic has clear limitations that make him unplayable with certain matchups and has very little trade value because of that.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1870 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Aug 8, 2024 6:20 am

garrick wrote:
JRoy wrote:
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At 25 he is pretty much who he is at this point and I don't see any team wanting him at his current salary. He is very much a vet minimum kind of guy because he is extremely inconsistent and isn't big enough to play PF.

This is the problem with tweeners they don't really fit into a role due to their physical limitations and is probably the same route that Dunn will take.


Always injured and terrible.


Portland got the better end of this deal I think, Camara looks like a keeper on an affordable deal and is a clear upgrade over Little.

Johnson was trash and Nurkic has clear limitations that make him unplayable with certain matchups and has very little trade value because of that.

It's not clear cut.

Losing Camara sucked and Little has been a bum so that's a clear W for the Blazers. But I'd easily take Nurk and his $37.5m owed plus Grayson who's been monumental to this team last season and going forward over an unhappy and unmotivated drag on the team who still has $70m owed to him and is unmovable because he has no market.

IMO it's a wash. Portland can eat DA's contract because they aren't competing and don't have a salary crunch like we do while we're better off without lazy DA's $34m+ that has no value.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1871 » by JRoy » Thu Aug 8, 2024 6:32 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
garrick wrote:
JRoy wrote:
Always injured and terrible.


Portland got the better end of this deal I think, Camara looks like a keeper on an affordable deal and is a clear upgrade over Little.

Johnson was trash and Nurkic has clear limitations that make him unplayable with certain matchups and has very little trade value because of that.

It's not clear cut.

Losing Camara sucked and Little has been a bum so that's a clear W for the Blazers. But I'd easily take Nurk and his $37.5m owed plus Grayson who's been monumental to this team last season and going forward over an unhappy and unmotivated drag on the team who still has $70m owed to him and is unmovable because he has no market.

IMO it's a wash. Portland can eat DA's contract because they aren't competing and don't have a salary crunch like we do while we're better off without lazy DA's $34m+ that has no value.


Sounds just about right.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1872 » by JRoy » Thu Aug 8, 2024 6:34 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
Fo-Real wrote:Nassir little is still on our roster. Any chance he more lives up to what was thought to be his potential with diffrent coaching and team familiarity?

Issue with him is he doesn't do anything particularly well. Inconsistent 3PT shooter, OK man defense but gets lost very often on defensive rotations so is an overall negative, and offensively he just doesn't really have a particular niche ie he's not some great cutter, not a really consistent corner 3 guy, not even really a straight line driver, doesn't handle the ball that well....

One of the bigger issue with him is that he gets injured often. He's never played more than 54 games and averages just over 47 games a season. So even if he finds some consistency over a stretch, he'll get injured and you won't see him again for another half dozen games.

The only thing on his side is that he's relatively young as he doesn't turn 25 until the all-star break so he could still find a niche in the NBA that would allow him to contribute when he's not injured. He'll have value for example if he's able to hit corner 3's at a decent clip and just be an energy dude grabbing rebounds (which might be one of his better skills) and creating opportunities from stocks


The first time I saw him play as a rookie he looked like someone who had never seen basketball played before.

Zero skills. Zero awareness.

Nice kid but just a nothing as a nba player.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1873 » by garrick » Thu Aug 8, 2024 6:39 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
garrick wrote:
JRoy wrote:
Always injured and terrible.


Portland got the better end of this deal I think, Camara looks like a keeper on an affordable deal and is a clear upgrade over Little.

Johnson was trash and Nurkic has clear limitations that make him unplayable with certain matchups and has very little trade value because of that.

It's not clear cut.

Losing Camara sucked and Little has been a bum so that's a clear W for the Blazers. But I'd easily take Nurk and his $37.5m owed plus Grayson who's been monumental to this team last season and going forward over an unhappy and unmotivated drag on the team who still has $70m owed to him and is unmovable because he has no market.

IMO it's a wash. Portland can eat DA's contract because they aren't competing and don't have a salary crunch like we do while we're better off without lazy DA's $34m+ that has no value.


Well there's still time to try to trade either Grayson or Nurkic for something better since we're massively undersized and Grayson does not help us with rebounding or defense although he does try his best.

As I said when the trade was made this trade will be judged on how much further we go with Nukric and Grayson so it's not fully decided yet.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1874 » by Mulhollanddrive » Thu Aug 8, 2024 7:02 am

Grayson Allen for Herb Jones not sure if Pels do it
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1875 » by KdoubleDees23 » Thu Aug 8, 2024 2:00 pm

garrick wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
garrick wrote:
Portland got the better end of this deal I think, Camara looks like a keeper on an affordable deal and is a clear upgrade over Little.

Johnson was trash and Nurkic has clear limitations that make him unplayable with certain matchups and has very little trade value because of that.

It's not clear cut.

Losing Camara sucked and Little has been a bum so that's a clear W for the Blazers. But I'd easily take Nurk and his $37.5m owed plus Grayson who's been monumental to this team last season and going forward over an unhappy and unmotivated drag on the team who still has $70m owed to him and is unmovable because he has no market.

IMO it's a wash. Portland can eat DA's contract because they aren't competing and don't have a salary crunch like we do while we're better off without lazy DA's $34m+ that has no value.


Well there's still time to try to trade either Grayson or Nurkic for something better since we're massively undersized and Grayson does not help us with rebounding or defense although he does try his best.

As I said when the trade was made this trade will be judged on how much further we go with Nukric and Grayson so it's not fully decided yet.


Camara wouldn't have played for us, and dude isn't going to move the needle.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1876 » by Kyler Murray » Thu Aug 8, 2024 8:38 pm

Hella impressed by KDs defense, he's out there guarding Misjic and Bogi on the perimeter and locking them down.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1877 » by Kyler Murray » Thu Aug 8, 2024 8:44 pm

The fact that the lineup that changed the whole game around was Book & KD with LeBron and curry was sweet for us suns fans (KD forcing guards to backcourt violations, crazy how good this guy is)
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1878 » by sunsbg » Thu Aug 8, 2024 8:53 pm

Game 7 atmosphere with KD having clutch plays on both ends to secure the win. Great experience for Book in deciding games as well. Getting a lot of prize for his defense on GB.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1879 » by Saberestar » Thu Aug 8, 2024 11:10 pm

Curry, Book, KD, LeBron and Embiid played basically the entire 4th quarter to make a terrific comeback against Serbia.

KD's last shot was a **** joy to watch.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1880 » by Mr Puddles » Thu Aug 8, 2024 11:57 pm

Mulhollanddrive wrote:Grayson Allen for Herb Jones not sure if Pels do it


They won't, I love what Allen brings to the Suns but Herbert is in a tier above him.

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