offseason tracker

[loveshaq007]

essentially not moving the needle and screwing ourselves in the future

[loveshaq007]

essentially not moving the needle and screwing ourselves in the future

[Godfather13]

I'm no defender of Jeanie what so ever here... but let's not forget that LeBron is here... and FA's not coming here and trades not materializing have as much to do with him as they do Jeanie.

We're not a single "3rd star" away and most players in their prime know that.

We'll get an over the hill "star" who will come and and create chemistry issues (think Westbrook) again. Hopefully it only costs of half the roster and 2 or 3 first rounders.

Everything is Lebron's fault. I get it. Take a number and stand in line.

[SlimShady83]

I JUST DID A FUN TRADE ... And It works again It's just for fun.

Risk It to get the biscuit In trading for Lonzo Ball back- News has It his started 5on5 scrimmages him off the bench wouldn't hurt
ask for 1 or 2 second round picks back?

Out: DLO+JHS
In: Lonzo Ball + 1 or 2 second round pics.

[Godfather13]

In terms of remaining free agents Cedi Osman is the best value left imo, especially if we end up trading one of our wings. Cedi is not a tweener and has quality size at the 3 position standing 6'7 w/ a 6'11 wingspan and 230 pounds. He's in his prime at 29 and already has rapport w/ Lebron when they were in Cleveland. He can do a little bit of everything and doesn't have any huge weaknesses (not a lockdown defender but not a liability either, he's solid) and I think he can be slotted as a 16-20 mpg backup 3 on a winning team today. He's better than Cam Reddish and even arguably better all-around than Taurean Prince was.

Even though he technically just retired, I'd rather have Gordon Hayward than Osman. I think he can be coaxed to come back.

After trading Russell, Hachimura, Vanderbilt, Vincent, and Hayes for LaVine, Williams III, and Torrey Craig, it opens up two roster spots to bring in Hayward and give him a starting spot:

PG - James
SG - Christie
C --- Davis
PF - Hayward
SF - LaVine
(Reaves, Knecht, and Williams III off the bench with Reddish, Schifino, and Craig fighting for 9th man minutes)

I think Hayward comes out of retirement if promised a starting spot with James, LaVine, and Davis.

Essentially ...
Russell for LaVine
Hachimura for Hayward
Vanderbilt for Williams III 
Vincent for Craig 
Hayes for Biyombo (min signing)

I like Hayward a lot, but I think his starter days are over, cos he can't move his feet the same way he used to. But whats left of him is a brilliant IQ, solid shooter & playmaker, who can be relied upon to help the 2nd units function somewhat gracefully for 3-4 minute windows without a primary playmaker. Too bad he didn't find a market and chose to retire.

There's a fair number of current Lakers roster spot holders who should've retired from basketball before him

[Godfather13]

I JUST DID A FUN TRADE ... And It works again It's just for fun.

Risk It to get the biscuit In trading for Lonzo Ball back- News has It his started 5on5 scrimmages him off the bench wouldn't hurt
ask for 1 or 2 second round picks back?

Out: DLO+JHS
In: Lonzo Ball + 1 or 2 second round pics.

Asking for things never hurts.. lol

[loveshaq007]

Hayward at vets min >>> cam/wood/Maxwell/gabe

[Landsberger]

I'm no defender of Jeanie what so ever here... but let's not forget that LeBron is here... and FA's not coming here and trades not materializing have as much to do with him as they do Jeanie.

We're not a single "3rd star" away and most players in their prime know that.

We'll get an over the hill "star" who will come and and create chemistry issues (think Westbrook) again. Hopefully it only costs of half the roster and 2 or 3 first rounders.

Everything is Lebron's fault. I get it. Take a number and stand in line.

Who wants to come here and watch Bron ball every night knowing that it's not going anywhere?

[Godfather13]

I'm no defender of Jeanie what so ever here... but let's not forget that LeBron is here... and FA's not coming here and trades not materializing have as much to do with him as they do Jeanie.

We're not a single "3rd star" away and most players in their prime know that.

We'll get an over the hill "star" who will come and and create chemistry issues (think Westbrook) again. Hopefully it only costs of half the roster and 2 or 3 first rounders.

Everything is Lebron's fault. I get it. Take a number and stand in line.

Who wants to come here and watch Bron ball every night knowing that it's not going anywhere?

Fans of basketball / Lakers / Lebron

[Godfather13]

Hayward at vets min >>> cam/wood/Maxwell/gabe

Bronny, Lewis, Hayes too

[Anderson Hunt]

In terms of remaining free agents Cedi Osman is the best value left imo, especially if we end up trading one of our wings. Cedi is not a tweener and has quality size at the 3 position standing 6'7 w/ a 6'11 wingspan and 230 pounds. He's in his prime at 29 and already has rapport w/ Lebron when they were in Cleveland. He can do a little bit of everything and doesn't have any huge weaknesses (not a lockdown defender but not a liability either, he's solid) and I think he can be slotted as a 16-20 mpg backup 3 on a winning team today. He's better than Cam Reddish and even arguably better all-around than Taurean Prince was.

Even though he technically just retired, I'd rather have Gordon Hayward than Osman. I think he can be coaxed to come back.

After trading Russell, Hachimura, Vanderbilt, Vincent, and Hayes for LaVine, Williams III, and Torrey Craig, it opens up two roster spots to bring in Hayward and give him a starting spot:

PG - James
SG - Christie
C --- Davis
PF - Hayward
SF - LaVine
(Reaves, Knecht, and Williams III off the bench with Reddish, Schifino, and Craig fighting for 9th man minutes)

I think Hayward comes out of retirement if promised a starting spot with James, LaVine, and Davis.

Essentially ...
Russell for LaVine
Hachimura for Hayward
Vanderbilt for Williams III 
Vincent for Craig 
Hayes for Biyombo (min signing)

I like Hayward a lot, but I think his starter days are over, cos he can't move his feet the same way he used to. But whats left of him is a brilliant IQ, solid shooter & playmaker, who can be relied upon to help the 2nd units function somewhat gracefully for 3-4 minute windows without a primary playmaker. Too bad he didn't find a market and chose to retire.

There's a fair number of current Lakers roster spot holders who should've retired from basketball before him

Hayward is still good for around 24 minutes a game, IMO.

I have him penciled in as a starter, but it's only in name only. He'd finish some games, but Knecht and, especially, Reaves would be breathing down his neck.

He'd be a 22 minute a game starter, not a normal starter getting real starter minutes. Christie and Reaves will average more minutes with Knecht probably matching him by mid season.

[Anderson Hunt]

essentially not moving the needle and screwing ourselves in the future

How is trading Russell, Hachimura, Vanderbilt, Vincent, and Hayes for LaVine, Williams III, and Torrey Craig "screwing the future"?

[Anderson Hunt]

LeBron James' stat line at point guard against Serbia in the semifinals is the type of stat line I'd like him to strive for next year as lead facilitator: 16p 12r 11a

If he could focus on setting others up and rebounding, the team would be in a much better place than they'd be with him striving to average his normal 25p 7r 8a.

[SlimShady83]

We really need the regular season to start

[loveshaq007]

essentially not moving the needle and screwing ourselves in the future

How is trading Russell, Hachimura, Vanderbilt, Vincent, and Hayes for LaVine, Williams III, and Torrey Craig "screwing the future"?

lavine's contract

period

[loveshaq007]

LeBron James' stat line at point guard against Serbia in the semifinals is the type of stat line I'd like him to strive for next year as lead facilitator: 16p 12r 11a

If he could focus on setting others up and rebounding, the team would be in a much better place than they'd be with him striving to average his normal 25p 7r 8a.

I agree .... start him at pg. will give us the mobility and length to give teams problems!

[Anderson Hunt]

essentially not moving the needle and screwing ourselves in the future

How is trading Russell, Hachimura, Vanderbilt, Vincent, and Hayes for LaVine, Williams III, and Torrey Craig "screwing the future"?

lavine's contract

period

This is simple-midedness at it's finest. LaVine makes what Vanderbilt, Vincent, and Hachimura make. Are Vanderbilt, Vincent, and Hachimura "screwing the future" too?

The Lakers have too many contracts on their roster. They also have too many average players under contract.

They need to trim the fat and upgrade their backcourt speed and athleticism without sacrificing shooting.

Acquiring LaVine, Williams III, and Craig allows the Lakers to get better and keep their picks while also going on one last run with James and Davis.

LaVine is definitely overpaid, no question. But so is Vanderbilt and Vincent. And Hachimura, for all of his talent, lacks the mentality to be great. He could become Leonard-lite if he truly wanted to be great, but he seems to be cool being a role-player. His contract is fair, but you sacrifice him with Vincent, Vanderbilt, Hayes, and Russell to take a chance on being really good.

LaVine fits like a glove, and with all the chatter of him being a garbage, empty-stats player, he has a ton to prove.

With James playing point, facilitating and empowering, LaVine could easily average 25 and lead this team in scoring. His contract runs two more seasons past this one. With draft picks in tow, the future of the franchise would not be jeopardized by acquiring LaVine:

PG - James - Reddish - Schifino
SG - Christie - James - Craig
C --- Davis - Williams III - Biyombo
PF - Hayward - Knecht - Wood
SF - LaVine - Reaves - Lewis

[Anderson Hunt]

LeBron James' stat line at point guard against Serbia in the semifinals is the type of stat line I'd like him to strive for next year as lead facilitator: 16p 12r 11a

If he could focus on setting others up and rebounding, the team would be in a much better place than they'd be with him striving to average his normal 25p 7r 8a.

I agree .... start him at pg. will give us the mobility and length to give teams problems!

It has nothing to do with mobility and length. Him playing point guard is for offensive purposes. James should play point guard on offense, but he'd still be a power forward on defense. The team is not longer or more mobile with him at point guard.

James at point guard satiates his desire to touch the ball every possession and puts the team in the best position to win by giving the ball to the most capable facilitator on the team every possession ... that's why he's the point guard for Team USA, and that's why he commandeers the offense in the playoffs.

The Lakers need to be in the best position to win every game, you do that by giving James the ball and telling him to empower his guys with passing and rebounding.

[danfantastk32]

We really need the regular season to start

What? You don't wanna see us try to pull some ho-hum player outa retirement?

[danfantastk32]

LeBron James' stat line at point guard against Serbia in the semifinals is the type of stat line I'd like him to strive for next year as lead facilitator: 16p 12r 11a

If he could focus on setting others up and rebounding, the team would be in a much better place than they'd be with him striving to average his normal 25p 7r 8a.

Do we have a better shooter than him? I'd warn you about watching the men's video game mode, and trying to glean ideas/information from it, but I dunno that you'll listen. It's alot easier to do whatever the f**k you want, when you have Embiid, Davis, Curry, Edwards, Durant, etc etc. Oh...and let's not forget it's this super relaxed 6 or so game tournament, with 2-3 days off between games. I wouldn't take it for anything but a video game.

Food for thought