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Re: WOJ: Spurs draft Rob Dillingham 8th, then trade him to the TWolves for an unprotected 2031 first 

Post#421 » by Bornstellar » Fri Aug 9, 2024 12:20 am

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KGdaBom wrote:I wouldn't stake my life on it, but other than that I'm sure. Also I don't care about swaps and picks 6-7 years away. I don't give a rat's ass.

I'll be sure to bookmark this thread and bump it in 6 years when the Wolves are once again a bottom feeder and coughing up their lottery picks to SA and Dillingham is a nobody. Enjoy your midget PG in the meantime :thumbsup:

I will. Thank you. I still don't give a Rat's ass about 2030-31.

Good for you. The nice thing about time that is it only goes one direction. So that time will come eventually, you will care then, and when the time comes you'll be salty you don't have control of your own draft. But feel free to live it up in the meantime. I know team success is super hard to come by for a Wolves fan so I get it man, enjoy :nod:
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Bornstellar wrote:I'll be sure to bookmark this thread and bump it in 6 years when the Wolves are once again a bottom feeder and coughing up their lottery picks to SA and Dillingham is a nobody. Enjoy your midget PG in the meantime :thumbsup:

I will. Thank you. I still don't give a Rat's ass about 2030-31.

Good for you. The nice thing about time that is it only goes one direction. So that time will come eventually, you will care then, and when the time comes you'll be salty you don't have control of your own draft. But feel free to live it up in the meantime. I know team success is super hard to come by for a Wolves fan so I get it man, enjoy :nod:

You know how bad Wright (Wrong) got bamboozled. Me thinks you doth protest too much. It was the most lopsided trade in NBA history other than a player forcing his way out.
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Post#423 » by Raps in 4 » Fri Aug 9, 2024 12:53 am

I think this trade was a miss by the Spurs. Dillingham is probably a bust, but I'd still take my chances on a prospect now to develop alongside Wemby than to have a pick in 7 years when Wemby is 27 and the timeline with the rookie no longer matches up.

I also doubt Minny will be bad in 2031. The only way that happens is if

1. Ant leaves the team in free agency the season prior
2. Ant doesn't play that season due to an injury or suspension
3. Ant is no longer a difference maker by that point in his career because he suffered a career ending/altering injury

The odds of any of those things coming to pass are slim. It wasn't a smart gamble, IMO.
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Re: WOJ: Spurs draft Rob Dillingham 8th, then trade him to the TWolves for an unprotected 2031 first 

Post#424 » by Rust_Cohle » Fri Aug 9, 2024 1:57 am

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KGdaBom wrote:You have your right to be wrong. Mike Conley, Alan Iverson and many other good players are/were Dillingham's size or are you declaring Tim Connelly to be an idiot.


That is a ridiculous take. That’s like 1% of players on nba history of that size.


Also he is literally the tiniest player in the league. He’ll also be a bottom 5 defender as he doesn’t have any tools to be a good defensive player whatsoever.

Are you declaring Tim Connelly the guy who built the Denver championship team and turned the Timberwolves into a title contender in is it 2 years to be an idiot? Dilly will be just fine.
I am declaring Wright (Wrong) to be an idiot.


Haha the timberwolves aren’t a title contender, losing in 5 in the WCF doesn’t make you a title contender. Timberwolves will also struggle to keep this core together with all those salaries.
Spurs are very smart betting on the wolves being horrible by 2030.
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Post#425 » by Rust_Cohle » Fri Aug 9, 2024 2:00 am

Raps in 4 wrote:I think this trade was a miss by the Spurs. Dillingham is probably a bust, but I'd still take my chances on a prospect now to develop alongside Wemby than to have a pick in 7 years when Wemby is 27 and the timeline with the rookie no longer matches up.

I also doubt Minny will be bad in 2031. The only way that happens is if

1. Ant leaves the team in free agency the season prior
2. Ant doesn't play that season due to an injury or suspension
3. Ant is no longer a difference maker by that point in his career because he suffered a career ending/altering injury

The odds of any of those things coming to pass are slim. It wasn't a smart gamble, IMO.


Even with Ant, wolves have no one on his timeline to pair him up with. If the spurs are a top 5 team by 2030 and then can get a top 10 pick on the cheap that would be amazing. Getting high picks while being contention would be the best of both worlds. Spurs don’t need to go all in on what is a very very weak draft on paper. The best bang for buck is usually with rookie contracts so I’d love to have some bullets in the chamber to fill out the bench with some solid draft opportunities
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Post#427 » by KGdaBom » Fri Aug 9, 2024 2:46 am

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That is a ridiculous take. That’s like 1% of players on nba history of that size.


Also he is literally the tiniest player in the league. He’ll also be a bottom 5 defender as he doesn’t have any tools to be a good defensive player whatsoever.

Are you declaring Tim Connelly the guy who built the Denver championship team and turned the Timberwolves into a title contender in is it 2 years to be an idiot? Dilly will be just fine.
I am declaring Wright (Wrong) to be an idiot.


Haha the timberwolves aren’t a title contender, losing in 5 in the WCF doesn’t make you a title contender. Timberwolves will also struggle to keep this core together with all those salaries.
Spurs are very smart betting on the wolves being horrible by 2030.

I believe you are an unbelievable idiot thinking those. I guess we will find out in 2030, but 90% chance you won't have the assets then anyway. Good chance one or both of us aren't even alive come 2030.

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Post#428 » by Rust_Cohle » Fri Aug 9, 2024 3:24 am

KGdaBom wrote:
Rust_Cohle wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Are you declaring Tim Connelly the guy who built the Denver championship team and turned the Timberwolves into a title contender in is it 2 years to be an idiot? Dilly will be just fine.
I am declaring Wright (Wrong) to be an idiot.


Haha the timberwolves aren’t a title contender, losing in 5 in the WCF doesn’t make you a title contender. Timberwolves will also struggle to keep this core together with all those salaries.
Spurs are very smart betting on the wolves being horrible by 2030.

I believe you are an unbelievable idiot thinking those. I guess we will find out in 2030, but 90% chance you won't have the assets then anyway. Good chance one or both of us aren't even alive come 2030.


Reach out, don't wallow in your depression and clear self hatred you have for yourself. Seek therapy.

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Post#429 » by zimpy27 » Fri Aug 9, 2024 3:29 am

Raps in 4 wrote:I think this trade was a miss by the Spurs. Dillingham is probably a bust, but I'd still take my chances on a prospect now to develop alongside Wemby than to have a pick in 7 years when Wemby is 27 and the timeline with the rookie no longer matches up.

I also doubt Minny will be bad in 2031. The only way that happens is if

1. Ant leaves the team in free agency the season prior
2. Ant doesn't play that season due to an injury or suspension
3. Ant is no longer a difference maker by that point in his career because he suffered a career ending/altering injury

The odds of any of those things coming to pass are slim. It wasn't a smart gamble, IMO.


Spurs can send that pick to another team right now for a player to help Wemby before the season starts..

Other teams picks are the most liquid assets in the NBA, why act like they have to wait 7 years to reap value?
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Post#430 » by KGdaBom » Fri Aug 9, 2024 4:46 am

zimpy27 wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:I think this trade was a miss by the Spurs. Dillingham is probably a bust, but I'd still take my chances on a prospect now to develop alongside Wemby than to have a pick in 7 years when Wemby is 27 and the timeline with the rookie no longer matches up.

I also doubt Minny will be bad in 2031. The only way that happens is if

1. Ant leaves the team in free agency the season prior
2. Ant doesn't play that season due to an injury or suspension
3. Ant is no longer a difference maker by that point in his career because he suffered a career ending/altering injury

The odds of any of those things coming to pass are slim. It wasn't a smart gamble, IMO.


Spurs can send that pick to another team right now for a player to help Wemby before the season starts..

Other teams picks are the most liquid assets in the NBA, why act like they have to wait 7 years to reap value?

The problem is finding anybody interested in the swap or the pick or both. Most teams are like me. They don't give a rat's ass about a swap 6 years from now and a pick 7 years from now. Sure somebody will give you something for them, but not nearly the equivalent of the 8th pick in this years weak draft.
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Post#431 » by KGdaBom » Fri Aug 9, 2024 4:51 am

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Haha the timberwolves aren’t a title contender, losing in 5 in the WCF doesn’t make you a title contender. Timberwolves will also struggle to keep this core together with all those salaries.
Spurs are very smart betting on the wolves being horrible by 2030.

I believe you are an unbelievable idiot thinking those. I guess we will find out in 2030, but 90% chance you won't have the assets then anyway. Good chance one or both of us aren't even alive come 2030.


Reach out, don't wallow in your depression and clear self hatred you have for yourself. Seek therapy.

You really need to work on your grammar. I'm 65 and diabetic. Definitely a decent chance I'm not alive. Also Sheet happens. You may be young and perfectly healthy, but get killed by a drunk driver. I stand by my statement of the possibility of one or both of us being dead.
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Post#432 » by HotelVitale » Fri Aug 9, 2024 5:22 am

Raps in 4 wrote:I think this trade was a miss by the Spurs. Dillingham is probably a bust, but I'd still take my chances on a prospect now to develop alongside Wemby than to have a pick in 7 years when Wemby is 27 and the timeline with the rookie no longer matches up.

I also doubt Minny will be bad in 2031. The only way that happens is if

1. Ant leaves the team in free agency the season prior
2. Ant doesn't play that season due to an injury or suspension
3. Ant is no longer a difference maker by that point in his career because he suffered a career ending/altering injury

The odds of any of those things coming to pass are slim. It wasn't a smart gamble, IMO.


The odds of Ant not being on that team have got to be at least 50/50, right? The list of NBA stars who play more than a decade for the same team is pretty small, it's definitely possible but it seems like something you definitely can't assume. Also if he's still around but the rest of the team is in a down year the pick could still easily be top 10, happens all the time.

Not saying I think the trade was good (I don't) but I'd probably take a bet that Ant isn't around in 2031 if I had even the slightest odds in my favor.
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Post#433 » by zimpy27 » Fri Aug 9, 2024 6:12 am

KGdaBom wrote:
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Raps in 4 wrote:I think this trade was a miss by the Spurs. Dillingham is probably a bust, but I'd still take my chances on a prospect now to develop alongside Wemby than to have a pick in 7 years when Wemby is 27 and the timeline with the rookie no longer matches up.

I also doubt Minny will be bad in 2031. The only way that happens is if

1. Ant leaves the team in free agency the season prior
2. Ant doesn't play that season due to an injury or suspension
3. Ant is no longer a difference maker by that point in his career because he suffered a career ending/altering injury

The odds of any of those things coming to pass are slim. It wasn't a smart gamble, IMO.


Spurs can send that pick to another team right now for a player to help Wemby before the season starts..

Other teams picks are the most liquid assets in the NBA, why act like they have to wait 7 years to reap value?

The problem is finding anybody interested in the swap or the pick or both. Most teams are like me. They don't give a rat's ass about a swap 6 years from now and a pick 7 years from now. Sure somebody will give you something for them, but not nearly the equivalent of the 8th pick in this years weak draft.


Celtics just built a championship team off of distant picks from another team.

Moving a swap is harder as you have to move your own pick with it. The Minny FRP can be moved easily with no risk.
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Post#434 » by Rust_Cohle » Fri Aug 9, 2024 1:22 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
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KGdaBom wrote:I believe you are an unbelievable idiot thinking those. I guess we will find out in 2030, but 90% chance you won't have the assets then anyway. Good chance one or both of us aren't even alive come 2030.


Reach out, don't wallow in your depression and clear self hatred you have for yourself. Seek therapy.

You really need to work on your grammar. I'm 65 and diabetic. Definitely a decent chance I'm not alive. Also Sheet happens. You may be young and perfectly healthy, but get killed by a drunk driver. I stand by my statement of the possibility of one or both of us being dead.


Sorry you’re diabetic, but a strong chance timberwolves will be terrible by 2030. I hope you are around to see it and that the next rebuild is even more successful. Going to be difficult to keep this core with the new apron rules.

Try to not be so hard in yourself and taking it out on others when the reality suggests a franchise that has been pretty mediocre for most of its existence may continue to be 6-7 years from now.
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Post#435 » by KGdaBom » Fri Aug 9, 2024 3:13 pm

Rust_Cohle wrote:
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Reach out, don't wallow in your depression and clear self hatred you have for yourself. Seek therapy.

You really need to work on your grammar. I'm 65 and diabetic. Definitely a decent chance I'm not alive. Also Sheet happens. You may be young and perfectly healthy, but get killed by a drunk driver. I stand by my statement of the possibility of one or both of us being dead.


Sorry you’re diabetic, but a strong chance timberwolves will be terrible by 2030. I hope you are around to see it and that the next rebuild is even more successful. Going to be difficult to keep this core with the new apron rules.

Try to not be so hard in yourself and taking it out on others when the reality suggests a franchise that has been pretty mediocre for most of its existence may continue to be 6-7 years from now.

You're still ridiculous with the notions that the Wolves aren't contenders and are likely to be terrible 6 years from now. We have a great young core and the player that is likely to be the best in the NBA in 6 years. Anything can happen, but we are more likely to be drafting in the 30s than in the top 10. Just to make sure one thing is clear. If I was young and in perfect health I still wouldn't give a rat's ass about the swap and pick. Way too far away to care about now.

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Post#436 » by JM00n69 » Fri Aug 9, 2024 3:49 pm

It was one of the weakest drafts of all time. That pick wouldn't have helped them now. So they traded it for a long future pick to sweeten a trade. What's not to get?
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Post#437 » by Bornstellar » Fri Aug 9, 2024 3:50 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Rust_Cohle wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:You really need to work on your grammar. I'm 65 and diabetic. Definitely a decent chance I'm not alive. Also Sheet happens. You may be young and perfectly healthy, but get killed by a drunk driver. I stand by my statement of the possibility of one or both of us being dead.


Sorry you’re diabetic, but a strong chance timberwolves will be terrible by 2030. I hope you are around to see it and that the next rebuild is even more successful. Going to be difficult to keep this core with the new apron rules.

Try to not be so hard in yourself and taking it out on others when the reality suggests a franchise that has been pretty mediocre for most of its existence may continue to be 6-7 years from now.

You're still ridiculous with the notions that the Wolves aren't contenders and are likely to be terrible 6 years from now. We have a great young core and the player that is likely to be the best in the NBA in 6 years. Anything can happen, but we are more likely to be drafting in the 30s than in the top 10. Just to make sure one thing is clear. If I was young and in perfect health I still wouldn't give a rat's ass about the swap and pick. Way too far away to care about now.

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: please. It is way more likely that Edwards will never be the best player in the NBA. And you keep bringing up this "young core" as if it's anyone notable besides Edwards and Reid to a lesser extent. I guarantee you 90% of the current Wolves roster will not be on the team in 6 years
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Post#438 » by JM00n69 » Fri Aug 9, 2024 4:00 pm

Bornstellar wrote:
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Rust_Cohle wrote:
Sorry you’re diabetic, but a strong chance timberwolves will be terrible by 2030. I hope you are around to see it and that the next rebuild is even more successful. Going to be difficult to keep this core with the new apron rules.

Try to not be so hard in yourself and taking it out on others when the reality suggests a franchise that has been pretty mediocre for most of its existence may continue to be 6-7 years from now.

You're still ridiculous with the notions that the Wolves aren't contenders and are likely to be terrible 6 years from now. We have a great young core and the player that is likely to be the best in the NBA in 6 years. Anything can happen, but we are more likely to be drafting in the 30s than in the top 10. Just to make sure one thing is clear. If I was young and in perfect health I still wouldn't give a rat's ass about the swap and pick. Way too far away to care about now.

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: please. It is way more likely that Edwards will never be the best player in the NBA. And you keep bringing up this "young core" as if it's anyone notable besides Edwards and Reid to a lesser extent. I guarantee you 90% of the current Wolves roster will not be on the team in 6 years


I'd be surprised if one player on the team today is still there 6yrs from now.
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Post#439 » by KGdaBom » Fri Aug 9, 2024 4:31 pm

Bornstellar wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Rust_Cohle wrote:
Sorry you’re diabetic, but a strong chance timberwolves will be terrible by 2030. I hope you are around to see it and that the next rebuild is even more successful. Going to be difficult to keep this core with the new apron rules.

Try to not be so hard in yourself and taking it out on others when the reality suggests a franchise that has been pretty mediocre for most of its existence may continue to be 6-7 years from now.

You're still ridiculous with the notions that the Wolves aren't contenders and are likely to be terrible 6 years from now. We have a great young core and the player that is likely to be the best in the NBA in 6 years. Anything can happen, but we are more likely to be drafting in the 30s than in the top 10. Just to make sure one thing is clear. If I was young and in perfect health I still wouldn't give a rat's ass about the swap and pick. Way too far away to care about now.

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: please. It is way more likely that Edwards will never be the best player in the NBA. And you keep bringing up this "young core" as if it's anyone notable besides Edwards and Reid to a lesser extent. I guarantee you 90% of the current Wolves roster will not be on the team in 6 years

For that to be correct we would have to have 1 or zero players remaining. Do you want to bet on this. $1,000 or more. You want to stand by that guarantee? Jaden McDaniels was 2nd team all defense. I would say he has first team all defense in his future. Dillingham is 19 years old. The Wolves have a great young core.
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Post#440 » by KGdaBom » Fri Aug 9, 2024 4:36 pm

JM00n69 wrote:
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KGdaBom wrote:You're still ridiculous with the notions that the Wolves aren't contenders and are likely to be terrible 6 years from now. We have a great young core and the player that is likely to be the best in the NBA in 6 years. Anything can happen, but we are more likely to be drafting in the 30s than in the top 10. Just to make sure one thing is clear. If I was young and in perfect health I still wouldn't give a rat's ass about the swap and pick. Way too far away to care about now.

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: please. It is way more likely that Edwards will never be the best player in the NBA. And you keep bringing up this "young core" as if it's anyone notable besides Edwards and Reid to a lesser extent. I guarantee you 90% of the current Wolves roster will not be on the team in 6 years


I'd be surprised if one player on the team today is still there 6yrs from now.

LMAO. :lol:, but if true it shows how ridiculous trading for assets 6 or more years away is. There's zero predictability. However it's easy to predict based on the Wolves excellent young core. The swap and pick are likely to be in the 20s or 30s.

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