Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia

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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#141 » by ITYSL » Fri Aug 9, 2024 7:58 pm

Oh well. Him getting DNPs is dumb but it is what it is.

Best of both worlds for me as a USA and Celtics fan as 1) USA will probably still win gold; and 2) Tatum gets to rest his injuries a bit and then is also maybe motivated going into next season (as is JB).
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#142 » by Showdown » Fri Aug 9, 2024 7:59 pm

Edwards,White and Holiday were useless in the game so he had to get more minutes especially when it was obvious that bench lineup was afraid to do anything and were only dumping ball to Durant to di something.Tatum should get Bookers minutes in the Finals.
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#143 » by Drakeem » Fri Aug 9, 2024 8:01 pm

A lot of the Tatum hate in this thread is pretty funny. Sure, he had a bad shooting playoffs run, but I still remember when they manhandled Brooklyn and he sonned Durant on both ends. I still remember Tatum putting 50 on the Bucks.

He's a good player, and if Ant could find 10 minutes in most games, I'm sure Kerr could have found some minutes Tatum could play. I like making fun of people but he was first all NBA team for a reason.
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#144 » by RB34 » Fri Aug 9, 2024 8:03 pm

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Chokic wrote:Tatum should be starting over lebron. These games have been close bc of lebron. Dude is no different than when he's w/ the lakers during regular season padding his own stats at the detriment of his team. Dude is an absolute liability on defense and kills ball movement trying to be a floor general. Team usa has been very fortunage ever since kd came back he's been the juice for team usa to initiate momentum shifts.


:lol:


If you enjoyed this, you should head over to the Celtics board and ready their Olympics thread. It's filled with stuff like this and it's fantastic. It's not just the delusion, it's how aligned they all are in their delusion.


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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#145 » by cdubbz » Fri Aug 9, 2024 8:19 pm

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cdubbz wrote::lol:

Read on Twitter

You love it because your guy is playing. Imagine Kuminga becomes 1st team All NBA, wins a championship and Joe Mazzulla is the Olympics coach in 2028 and benches him.


Tell me more about Warriors winning the NBA Championship before 2028 and Kuminga taking that leap :o
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#146 » by DonaldSanders » Fri Aug 9, 2024 8:30 pm

I think JT will get minutes vs. France. 12 points, 5 rebound in a Gold Medal game and we all move on.
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#147 » by FashionedYoung » Fri Aug 9, 2024 8:32 pm

celtxman wrote:
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Triple M wrote:
The entire bench struggled yesterday. What does a player with Tatum accolades deserve? He cant get a go with multiple players minimized in their role especially when KD started to play with the starters


He deserves to be a DNP seeing as though it's working so far.

Worked? This team has been heavy favorites from the beginning. You hate Tatum. We get it.


I don't hate any player, but if that's the narrative you want to make up then run with it if it'll help you sleep at night. :crazy:
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#148 » by Rainwater » Fri Aug 9, 2024 8:41 pm

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Rainwater wrote:I just don’t think he was going to play with Durant, Lebron, and Steph already out there. Just like them he needs the ball in his hands to be successful. He was just an insurance policy this year but in 2028 they will definitely need him. It will pretty much be his team.

Imagine Kerr still benching Tatum in 2028 :lol:


That would be ridiculous
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#149 » by pushfloater » Fri Aug 9, 2024 8:49 pm

There is nobody he should play over. We don't need hero ball from him. Everybody else can do it better. Dribble, iso, step back... that'll be how we lose! He needs to attack the rim more often.

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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#150 » by Joshyjess » Fri Aug 9, 2024 8:50 pm

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Joshyjess wrote:Simple answer - Kerr is not just a self-proclaimed idiot, but an absolute moron who is so blinded by his Western conference bias that he almost cost the US the game. Of the 12 players on this team, there are 6 from each conference. The 5 players with the lowest amount of play time are all Eastern conference players. A good coach would have seen team USA winning by double digits all the way, using players not just for the conference they are in.
Hopefully we'll never have to see such a pathetic, baised head coach for team USA again.
I'm also looking forward to the regular season when Tatum goes full earth-scorching mode all over this idiot's butt.



While I'm in agreement that Kerr is in the wrong for giving him (and even Haliburton) DNPs, I think it's insane to think that he has anti Boston bias considering they have 2 players within the rotation, playing important but short minutes, which is exactly what they signed up for.
And cmon :lol: anti conference bias? The Western players are significantly more talented as a group, better basketball fits, and contain 3 all time greats that absolutely deserve the minutes they've been getting.

The DNPs is foolish to me, but realistically, even if he managed the minutes better and had everyone in the rotation like he's supposed to do as team USA's coach, 5/6 players getting the most minutes would still be from the western conference, and I see absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Bam has played one more minute than Edwards, if it weren't for that all of the bottom six players for minutes played would be from the Eastern conference - that's extremely pathetic. Every one of these players qualify as some of the best players in the game today, and every one of these players gave up their summers to participate in the Olympics. There is absolutely no reasonable explanation as to why the bottom six guys are al in the Eastern conference - ZERO.
On top of that, up until the final quarter of the last game, Curry has been the worst player on the team (just look at how many posts there have been here in the GM asking why Curry is even on the team) - and yet he has the most minutes played. Kerr is a joke. There is no reason to have a coach like this who wont' let each and every one of these amazing players get time. Hopefully this is the last Olympics that we'll have to see his pathetic face on the US bench. Get a coach who plays guys based on actual need, not based on stupid biases and preferences.
With a real coach, the US team would never have gotten down by 17 points to a team that has only one All-Star level player on it.
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#151 » by John Murdoch » Fri Aug 9, 2024 8:51 pm

Jaylen Brown woulda threw a fit , thats why they left him off
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#152 » by eyeatoma » Fri Aug 9, 2024 8:52 pm

Roscoe Sheed wrote:How on earth did the Celtics win the championship if Tatum is as bad as many of you are saying?
He had a literal superteam around him. I mean he wasn't fmvp.

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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#153 » by He_Got_Game » Fri Aug 9, 2024 9:00 pm

Karate Diop wrote:Not sure why people are surprised by this... Who exactly should he be playing over? He's an insurance policy, the guys playing ahead of him are just better.


Like who? Name names. Can't wait to shoot down these BS hot takes. The vast majority of NBA fans are straight up casuals who don't know jack about hooping.
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#154 » by ForeverTFC » Fri Aug 9, 2024 9:01 pm

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ForeverTFC wrote:
homecourtloss wrote:
:lol:


If you enjoyed this, you should head over to the Celtics board and ready their Olympics thread. It's filled with stuff like this and it's fantastic. It's not just the delusion, it's how aligned they all are in their delusion.


A raps fan talking about delusion is absolutely astounding.


My bad, your fan base is totally not delusional when it comes to this situation. I was mistaken:

I've been saying since the practice games 3 weeks ago that Lebron, Curry and Embiid have no busy playing on this team. Yet Kerr starts them and the team always gets to a bad start. No of these 3 play any defense. It's a joke. Lebron hasn't been good for about 3 years. Forget his padded stats, he is a third of the player he used to be. Curry can be a 12th man on this team at best. I don't care he got 36 against a terrible defensive team.


I still think the best team to start would be

Jrue at PG
Edwards at SG
Tatum and SF
Durant or Lebron at PF
Davis at C

That team smokes
team b
Holiday
Curry
Booker
Lebron
Embiid


Conspiracy theory… Kerr doesn’t want to coach a rebuilding Dubs team when it happens soon enough. Wants to stay West Coast but doesn’t want to coach in LA in Sac so is hitching his ride to PHX who’s been a carousel of coaches recently. He’ll take the Doc approach and get traded to the Suns next offseason. Booker as a result could guard everyone blindfolded and backwards and would still get minutes over JT.


don't care if Steph drops 40. Get a clue Kerr and quit riding your boy when he's getting cooked!!


Durant/Ant/Booker have been abysmal all game and still zero minutes for Tatum. What are we even doing here?


kerr is terrible. completely isolated and humiliated one of his most versatile players (tatum). now if the team really needs him he's likely already mentally out of it in this tournament
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#155 » by Triple M » Fri Aug 9, 2024 9:02 pm

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ForeverTFC wrote:
Put KD or LBJ in Tatum's spot and they win the championship as well as the FMVP.

unlikely- both are over 35 (LeBron is nearly 40)- they would wear out or perhaps even get injured. Also, it's not like the Lakers and Suns don't have talented players- AD is a top 10 NBA player and the Suns have Booker and Beal.


Tatum did not play particularly well this postseason, and especially not in the Finals. KD and Lebron both would have won with that Boston roster...


Do you believe Ray, T-Mac, Pierce, VC could 3 pete with Shaq/Kobe Lakers in place of Kobe?

Does Tatum playing 94, 93 and 100 games a factor you?

Because there is a difference between droping in LBJ and KD in the finals vs them carrying a team from day 1 training camp. KD hasnt made a deep run in the playoffs for 5 seasons and this is with various talented teams while LeBron was dealing with injuries the last time he made a deep playoff run. In the parity era we are seeing fewer teams and players consistently get deep into the playoffs.

I think the Celtics benefit from having 2 stars in around their mid 20s the last few years. They are better suited to maintaining their games into 90 to 100 games over multiple seasons
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#156 » by RB34 » Fri Aug 9, 2024 9:10 pm

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RB34 wrote:
ForeverTFC wrote:
If you enjoyed this, you should head over to the Celtics board and ready their Olympics thread. It's filled with stuff like this and it's fantastic. It's not just the delusion, it's how aligned they all are in their delusion.


A raps fan talking about delusion is absolutely astounding.


My bad, your fan base is totally not delusional when it comes to this situation. I was mistaken:

I've been saying since the practice games 3 weeks ago that Lebron, Curry and Embiid have no busy playing on this team. Yet Kerr starts them and the team always gets to a bad start. No of these 3 play any defense. It's a joke. Lebron hasn't been good for about 3 years. Forget his padded stats, he is a third of the player he used to be. Curry can be a 12th man on this team at best. I don't care he got 36 against a terrible defensive team.


I still think the best team to start would be

Jrue at PG
Edwards at SG
Tatum and SF
Durant or Lebron at PF
Davis at C

That team smokes
team b
Holiday
Curry
Booker
Lebron
Embiid


Conspiracy theory… Kerr doesn’t want to coach a rebuilding Dubs team when it happens soon enough. Wants to stay West Coast but doesn’t want to coach in LA in Sac so is hitching his ride to PHX who’s been a carousel of coaches recently. He’ll take the Doc approach and get traded to the Suns next offseason. Booker as a result could guard everyone blindfolded and backwards and would still get minutes over JT.


don't care if Steph drops 40. Get a clue Kerr and quit riding your boy when he's getting cooked!!


Durant/Ant/Booker have been abysmal all game and still zero minutes for Tatum. What are we even doing here?


kerr is terrible. completely isolated and humiliated one of his most versatile players (tatum). now if the team really needs him he's likely already mentally out of it in this tournament


Again, incredibly ironic coming from a Raps fans. Your own board hasn’t exactly been a haven of sanity over the years.
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#157 » by Swift21 » Fri Aug 9, 2024 9:12 pm

Triple M wrote:
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Triple M wrote:Last Olympics Tatum was the go to scorer off the bench. This Olympics Ant has taken that role and has done well overall but was surprised when Ant struggled yesterday that Tatum didn't get a chance. Seem like they could have used his rebounding and defense vs Serbia. The play from the bench overall was poor yesterday which was a surprise because how well they've played throughout exhibition, group play and vs Brazil. If the bench plays that poorly again i think Tatum will be given a chance to shake things up.


Edward’s was awful yesterday on both sides of the ball. But if you swap Edward’s for Tatum you have 3 non shooters off the bench now. If Edward’s sucks again his minutes should go to Steph/Book/Jrue/White. Unless Tatum finds his shot, I really think Tatum needs to beat out 1 of AD or Bam to get a spot… and AD/Bam have been amazing outside of when they had to play Jokic


Calling Tatum a non shooter is a reach despite his recent slump. Curry shot poorly but completely changed that yesterday. The same thing happening is not an impossibility for Tatum, e.g. the Sixers series where he went 4 for 4 from 3 in the clutch after struggling with his shot.


Something is clearly off with his jumper so you have to treat him like a non shooter for now.
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#158 » by Triple M » Fri Aug 9, 2024 9:20 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
Roscoe Sheed wrote:How on earth did the Celtics win the championship if Tatum is as bad as many of you are saying?
He had a literal superteam around him. I mean he wasn't fmvp.

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Well people question Brown as a top 15 player?
KP was injured most playoffs
Seems like Celtic fans think Tatum is a top 10 player and non Celtics fans have him a tier below.

The Celtics 3 to 5 is Jrue, White and Al Horford and while they are stars in their roles i dont think star role players equates to super team. Usually superteam refers to having multiple top 5, 10 or all nba players.

It's weird to say the Celtics are superteam but downplay their star players
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#159 » by Black Jack » Fri Aug 9, 2024 9:23 pm

His J not falling is probably the main issue

I do think he should get minutes but if not stop moping on the sidelines. Smile, cheer and be a good teammate then go drop 50 on the Warriors this next season. man up.
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Post#160 » by mpoo_sin » Fri Aug 9, 2024 9:24 pm

Maybe Kerr is protecting Tatums reputation. Tatum obv came to the team mentally unprepared. He came off a long season and a horrific finals. Not only offensively he was uber trash on defense also. Like much worse than the so called cone Doncic.
They took a look at him in the preparation games and saw that right now he sucks big time. Better not expose him and just say it is for match up reasons.
Tatum might be better off that way reputation wise.
Brown showed in the Finals that he is the better player. Maybe he should have been nominated instead of Tatum all along.

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