threrf23 wrote:cl2117 wrote:15th spot gets left open. Don't bring a guy like Svi in who would get in the way of developmental minutes for our young guys while not adding much value as a bench piece.
I'm talking semantics, because we don't really have minutes for him and he should also probably be trying to secure his financial future elsewhere...
But I like Svi and feel he is the type of player who can ride the bench all season just to come up huge for us at a random moment where we randomly have a need for him. His offensive game is highly natural and he comes off as a solid teammate.
I don't see it with Svi. I like the guy, but for his game to be impactful he's gotta score and the circumstances in which we'd want the ball in Svi's hands during a crunch time moment are going to be so rare that his value doesn't really go above eating regular season minutes. He's a replacement level NBA player, so he's good enough to warrant that 15th spot, but I just don't see any upside with him.
In comparison Oshae is more of hustle/energy guy and I can see him randomly making a big play at a key juncture because Joe can put him out there and he doesn't need to touch the ball to impact the game. If you think about Oshae making a big play, it's most likely coming in for a key offensive rebound or some strong team defense that swings a possession. He's just got more optionality than a guy like Svi given our roster construction.
Either would be fine, but ultimately we'll be better off giving those minutes to guys like Springer, Baylor, Watson and hoping they can be a cheaper/better version of Svi/Brissett in a couple years' time.
Hal14 wrote:playa-hater wrote:Fencer reregistered wrote:
Other PGs?
I believe when the final cuts come around in October , there will be some Quality point guards available if brad chooses to go that route..
But JD is on a 2-way contract. So if we cut him, we can only replace him with another. 2-way contract guy.
Anyone who gets cut who is 2-way eligible is probably not any better than JD..and they would have to be MUCH better, to make up for the fact that they would be starting from scratch in our organization..having to learn the system, the schemes and everything whereas JD has 2 years under his belt in our org, learning everything.
And even if there is someone better we can put on a 2-way, what's the point? How much impact would it really make to switch out JD for some other 2-way player? Considering 2-way guys can barely play for the big club..and this celtics team is so deep/talented that anyone we add on a 2-way contract would pretty never see the floor in meaningful minutes.
Mine as well keep developing JD..he's young, only 21 yrs old, has some talent and has already been developing in our system for 2 yrs..and he's there in case we need some emergency depth at PG this season, like if more than 1 out of Jrue/white/Pritchard go down with injuries at the same time..
This is exactly where I'm at with JD. If we're picking up off the scrap heap of PG's who are two-way eligible but didn't make the cut with their current team, I doubt there is a diamond in the rough that has more potential than JD.
It would be another story if we had drafted a couple 2nd round guys and we needed room to roster them but that's not the case here. We'd be swapping JD out for another guy struggling to make the jump from the G-League to the NBA that other teams haven't been willing to take a chance on either. Better to stick with the 21 year old who, for all his faults, has a lot of athleticism and could be a jump shot away from an end of the bench guard.
And to your point about his continuity within the system, that's a big plus given that the only real on-court impact anyone in that two-way slot will make this year is as a stand-in for an injury riddled back-court. Might as well stick with the guy who can confidently run the system rather than trying to teach someone.
He is the two-way guy I have the least hopes for though. He just strikes me as a 4A player. Peterson at least shows flashes of being an elite shooter which in and of itself could make him an NBA player. And Watson had an impressive enough showing that he warranted discussion for the 15th spot. If one guy has to go, I'm picking JD, but I struggle to imagine that there is a clear upgrade available.
