Steph Curry and the Gaslighting Campaign Against Him

[ghillphx]

OP is good at writing.. I don’t necessarily agree with what he’s presenting but it’s provocative.

Then OP should write about more useful things and stop ruminating over Steph Curry conspiracies

[Iwasawitness]

I don't know. What makes you think I lied and made things up?

Apart from the countless times you’ve done it in other threads, this abortion you made up alone demonstrates it. Curry is well liked and praised in the media and you actually think there’s a conspiracy against him

So you cannot actually point to any lie. Figures.

Then I'll just say you are a good boy and deserve a pat on the head. Yes! That's praise!

...I literally just pointed out an entire thread worth of it. Again, there's no conspiracy against Curry. But if you really wanted me to get specific, I could talk about the fact that you think Curry has an argument over LeBron or MJ, his defensive impact on the Warriors and the god knows how many times you've tried to explain why and how Curry had the worst supporting cast of all time to win a title in 2015 and 2022.

[Iwasawitness]

You know what I find interesting about this whole Lebron situation is many players & coaches in the league seem to like him. That's something I don't really understand.

For instance Lebron in 2012 in the playoffs had his lackeys putting out hit pieces on D. Wade all over the internet to deflect and take blame off the fake propaganda king. And D. Wade was suppose to be his boy. With friends like Lebron who need enemies?

The same thing with coaches like Mike Brown. Who obviously did a very good job with that young Cavs team. It was the defense that Brown had them playing that was primarily responsible for their success. It certainly wasn't Lebron 36% shooting on jumpers. Yet Lebron and his media team went out of their way to try to lay all the blame on him and destroy his coaching career. And yet amazing somehow Brown doesn't seem to whole any ill will toward the guy.

I must says Wade and Brown are certainly bigger men than me. I can admit that.

I wonder how Westbrook feel about the guy?

Are you just trying to outdo WarriorGM at this point?

[ghillphx]

Oh you asked them? And you believed them?

If you're expecting to be ahead of the game by listening to them you're going to be sorely disappointed.

You think they can judge IQ? I chided them ages ago for not recognizing how special Curry was. You think they took that advice?

The LeBron forum cannot take it when their calcified thinking is exposed. So they jettisoned and turned off anyone who didn't conform to their stale ideas. You won't see anything forward thinking there. And who is the player that most represents forward thinking in basketball? Why Steph of course. That's why they're still in catch up mode.

I told some of the regulars there when they've frequented this part of the site I'd be chortling as Steph proved them wrong and Steph has not disappointed.

I would much rather believe them than believe you, someone who constantly lies, gaslights and makes **** up to light up the reputation of his idol.

Truth is I caught a lie in one of their group projects. They didn't like it, blamed me and put me on a day suspension. That means that technically I should have been able to post there long long ago. I found the episode ridiculous, however, and since they need my perspective more than I need their drivel I've never tried posting there again.

Now if you are smart maybe you can deduce something from these facts:

I'm possibly the foremost Steph booster on these forums.
Steph has been incredibly successful the past few years.

Given the above you think I need to lie and make things up? You think I need to embellish things to look good? All I needed to do—all anyone needed to do—was show belief in Steph the last few years and keep the faith and he has rewarded that belief and fidelity plenty.

So if you are wondering who in these forums has a good track record, you should recognize that you are now talking to one of those few posters around here who aren't just full of b***.

Ever heard of Napoleon Complex?

[Sedale Threatt]

Apart from the countless times you’ve done it in other threads, this abortion you made up alone demonstrates it. Curry is well liked and praised in the media and you actually think there’s a conspiracy against him

There's even a running gag in Steph's new show -- which is surprisingly good, and he's actually pretty hilarious -- about how popular he is. "Hall of Fame Sweetie Boy Steph Curry..." "Steph Curry, still No. 1 in the Sweetie Boy Power Rankings..."

[Iwasawitness]

Apart from the countless times you’ve done it in other threads, this abortion you made up alone demonstrates it. Curry is well liked and praised in the media and you actually think there’s a conspiracy against him

There's even a running gag in Steph's new show -- which is surprisingly good, and he's actually pretty hilarious -- about how popular he is. "Hall of Fame Sweetie Boy Steph Curry..." "Steph Curry, still No. 1 in the Sweetie Boy Power Rankings..."

Yeah, for real. I don't know how anyone could possibly think Curry isn't well liked by the media. He's actually one of the few all time greats that has been given fair treatment from them.

[WarriorGM]

since they need my perspective more

Maybe my favorite chapter in this fabulous work of fan fiction.

You don't think it's true? A top 10 player all-time slaps them in the face with his greatness day in and day out for half a decade and they cannot see it despite talking about ball all-day? Only belatedly when it is already obvious to everyone else do they start to talk about him reluctantly. Someone like myself was needed to give some perspective and balance to that echo chamber. Their loss.

[WarriorGM]

I would much rather believe them than believe you, someone who constantly lies, gaslights and makes **** up to light up the reputation of his idol.

Truth is I caught a lie in one of their group projects. They didn't like it, blamed me and put me on a day suspension. That means that technically I should have been able to post there long long ago. I found the episode ridiculous, however, and since they need my perspective more than I need their drivel I've never tried posting there again.

Now if you are smart maybe you can deduce something from these facts:

I'm possibly the foremost Steph booster on these forums.
Steph has been incredibly successful the past few years.

Given the above you think I need to lie and make things up? You think I need to embellish things to look good? All I needed to do—all anyone needed to do—was show belief in Steph the last few years and keep the faith and he has rewarded that belief and fidelity plenty.

So if you are wondering who in these forums has a good track record, you should recognize that you are now talking to one of those few posters around here who aren't just full of b***.

Ever heard of Napoleon Complex?

You think I'm short or acknowledging me as a French emperor?

[WarriorGM]

Apart from the countless times you’ve done it in other threads, this abortion you made up alone demonstrates it. Curry is well liked and praised in the media and you actually think there’s a conspiracy against him

So you cannot actually point to any lie. Figures.

Then I'll just say you are a good boy and deserve a pat on the head. Yes! That's praise!

...I literally just pointed out an entire thread worth of it. Again, there's no conspiracy against Curry. But if you really wanted me to get specific, I could talk about the fact that you think Curry has an argument over LeBron or MJ, his defensive impact on the Warriors and the god knows how many times you've tried to explain why and how Curry had the worst supporting cast of all time to win a title in 2015 and 2022.

Yeah I do. I think a projection could be made as early as 2016. Curry's gone to 4 finals and won 3 championships out of them since. What's your point?

Steph is a greater player than LeBron. If you guys don't see it that's your problem. But my estimate that I made years ago looks good to me.

[C to the K]

Yeah we all see it especially us Warrior fans, but the media juggernaut knows how to work.

Things would be 100% different if Nike didn't drop the ball and spell his name wrong. Curry is the perfect marketable athlete with charisma & showmanship. Also the Klutch boys on ESPN constantly undervaluing Steph during the Championship years.

KD making the weakest move by a superstar did that, not Klutch

[ShootersShoot]

One last point. We saw Steph in the playoffs just back from injury and he swept the Jokic and the Nuggets. Meanwhile saw Lebron in the playoffs twice with Anthony Davis who was far better than anybody Steph had on his team almost get swept twice by Jokic.

Not a surprise it was Steph who had to activate GOD mode again to save Jokic from beating Lebron yet again.

Oh cmon now steph and the warriors swept the nuggets without murray, mpj, and kcp. Your post is a prime example of gaslighting...do better man

[Bourne85]

Just imagine, and I know this is VERY hard to imagine. But just imagine it was Lebron doing exactly what Curry did. My god ESPN and all the talk would be about LeGoat this and he’s the best that. Instead it was Curry doing it, he got 10min segment and they gave the MVP to a guy that averaged Prime Clint Capela stats.

[Texas Chuck]

since they need my perspective more

Maybe my favorite chapter in this fabulous work of fan fiction.

You don't think it's true? A top 10 player all-time slaps them in the face with his greatness day in and day out for half a decade and they cannot see it despite talking about ball all-day? Only belatedly when it is already obvious to everyone else do they start to talk about him reluctantly. Someone like myself was needed to give some perspective and balance to that echo chamber. Their loss.

Let's say you are right (you are not). Let's say only you were capable of seeing that Steph Curry was good at basketball. That nearly his whole career had passed without anyone else noticing this. (I hope you read how ridiculous this sounds, but you won't). Don't you understand how accumulation of knowledge and wisdom works? Sharing your own hardened opinions benefits you very little, but hearing other perspectives benefits you a great deal(again assuming you are open to opinions other than just Wardell is the bestest ever and everyone else is the dumbest ever).

And the really silly thing is everyone already agrees Curry is an all-time great. Likely the 2nd best player of his generation. A top 20 player of all-time. His shooting not only goes unmatched and unchallenged, its changed the spacing of the game forever. His impact on basketball is going to last for generations.

But that's not enough for you. You desperately need him to win a meaningless Olympic MVP award over a player who outplayed him because you are still so insecure that Lebron managed to beat your 73 win superteam. Instead of appreciating everything Steph and the Warriors accomplished, you know that Lebron was simply a greater player. But instead of admitting that to yourself, you create all these wild narratives.

And then think you are contributing more than the likes of Bad Gatorade, Outside, Doctor MJ, 70sFan, tsherkin, eminence and many many more outstanding posters......

Napoleanic indeed

[jg77]

Hey I thought Steph deserved the MVP award too but when you think of the 2024 Olympics USA Basketball the first player you will think about is Stephen Curry...not LeBron James or KD. He's getting all the love in the real world and social media and every outlet is talking about his performance.

That weighs a lot more than some MVP award.

[WarriorGM]

Maybe my favorite chapter in this fabulous work of fan fiction.

You don't think it's true? A top 10 player all-time slaps them in the face with his greatness day in and day out for half a decade and they cannot see it despite talking about ball all-day? Only belatedly when it is already obvious to everyone else do they start to talk about him reluctantly. Someone like myself was needed to give some perspective and balance to that echo chamber. Their loss.

Let's say you are right (you are not). Let's say only you were capable of seeing that Steph Curry was good at basketball. That nearly his whole career had passed without anyone else noticing this. (I hope you read how ridiculous this sounds, but you won't). Don't you understand how accumulation of knowledge and wisdom works? Sharing your own hardened opinions benefits you very little, but hearing other perspectives benefits you a great deal(again assuming you are open to opinions other than just Wardell is the bestest ever and everyone else is the dumbest ever).

And the really silly thing is everyone already agrees Curry is an all-time great. Likely the 2nd best player of his generation. A top 20 player of all-time. His shooting not only goes unmatched and unchallenged, its changed the spacing of the game forever. His impact on basketball is going to last for generations.

But that's not enough for you. You desperately need him to win a meaningless Olympic MVP award over a player who outplayed him because you are still so insecure that Lebron managed to beat your 73 win superteam. Instead of appreciating everything Steph and the Warriors accomplished, you know that Lebron was simply a greater player. But instead of admitting that to yourself, you create all these wild narratives.

And then think you are contributing more than the likes of Bad Gatorade, Outside, Doctor MJ, 70sFan, tsherkin, eminence and many many more outstanding posters......

Napoleanic indeed

If actually read and understood you should realize I think Curry getting this Olympic MVP bauble or not should be really inconsequential. But as I said IT IS PART OF A PATTERN. It is this PATTERN of marginalizing Steph while bigging up LeBron that I find objectionable and worth calling out. I'll also include in this the reticence that seems to overcome or is expected of some people about comparing Steph to LeBron or Steph to Jordan or Steph to any other all-time great player and the whiff of a suggestion that they cannot be compared. To which I say "Why the **** not?"

As for the posters that you named some of them are fine but they also tolerate a lot of real b******* trying to make nice with some truly dreadful posters which has sunk the worth of that forum. Also I don't see them as having really predicted anything so while some may be good mainly about the past, outstanding I think is pushing the glazing.

Napoleon sparked terror for a decade with his brilliance. Sounds applicable to Steph too. It may as well be a compliment.

[NyKnicks1714]

Maybe my favorite chapter in this fabulous work of fan fiction.

You don't think it's true? A top 10 player all-time slaps them in the face with his greatness day in and day out for half a decade and they cannot see it despite talking about ball all-day? Only belatedly when it is already obvious to everyone else do they start to talk about him reluctantly. Someone like myself was needed to give some perspective and balance to that echo chamber. Their loss.

And the really silly thing is everyone already agrees Curry is an all-time great. Likely the 2nd best player of his generation. A top 20 player of all-time. His shooting not only goes unmatched and unchallenged, its changed the spacing of the game forever. His impact on basketball is going to last for generations.

Does anyone even have him outside their top 15? Even then I think most have him in their top 10 or close. Curry is not underrated nor underappreciated in any way, shape, or form. He's respected and loved by the fans and media alike, and he's either the most popular player in the league or 1A/1B with LeBron. This whole thing is just so bizarre.

[WarriorGM]

You don't think it's true? A top 10 player all-time slaps them in the face with his greatness day in and day out for half a decade and they cannot see it despite talking about ball all-day? Only belatedly when it is already obvious to everyone else do they start to talk about him reluctantly. Someone like myself was needed to give some perspective and balance to that echo chamber. Their loss.

And the really silly thing is everyone already agrees Curry is an all-time great. Likely the 2nd best player of his generation. A top 20 player of all-time. His shooting not only goes unmatched and unchallenged, its changed the spacing of the game forever. His impact on basketball is going to last for generations.

Does anyone even have him outside their top 15? Even then I think most have him in their top 10 or close. Curry is not underrated nor underappreciated in any way, shape, or form. He's respected and loved by the fans and media alike, and he's either the most popular player in the league or 1A/1B with LeBron. This whole thing is just so bizarre.

As you see if you frequent that archaic forum enough and imbibe it's backwardness one might still think top 20 is reasonable.

[NyKnicks1714]

And the really silly thing is everyone already agrees Curry is an all-time great. Likely the 2nd best player of his generation. A top 20 player of all-time. His shooting not only goes unmatched and unchallenged, its changed the spacing of the game forever. His impact on basketball is going to last for generations.

Does anyone even have him outside their top 15? Even then I think most have him in their top 10 or close. Curry is not underrated nor underappreciated in any way, shape, or form. He's respected and loved by the fans and media alike, and he's either the most popular player in the league or 1A/1B with LeBron. This whole thing is just so bizarre.

As you see if you frequent that archaic forum enough and imbibe it's backwardness one might still think top 20 is reasonable.

I believe this is their most recent all-time list:



Curry ranked 11th. I have a few problems with it, as anyone will have with any such list: LeBron and Jordan IMO should be top 2 in whatever order, Bird at 12th and below Curry I don't agree with, KG too high, Kobe maybe a touch low, etc. But that forum has Curry 11th all time, perfectly reasonable. Seriously, this disrespect towards Curry you're dedicating all your free time towards simply does not exist.

[WarriorGM]

Does anyone even have him outside their top 15? Even then I think most have him in their top 10 or close. Curry is not underrated nor underappreciated in any way, shape, or form. He's respected and loved by the fans and media alike, and he's either the most popular player in the league or 1A/1B with LeBron. This whole thing is just so bizarre.

As you see if you frequent that archaic forum enough and imbibe it's backwardness one might still think top 20 is reasonable.

I believe this is their most recent all-time list:



Curry ranked 11th. I have a few problems with it, as anyone will have with any such list: LeBron and Jordan IMO should be top 2 in whatever order, Bird at 12th and below Curry I don't agree with, KG too high, Kobe maybe a touch low, etc. But that forum has Curry 11th all time, perfectly reasonable. Seriously, this disrespect towards Curry you're dedicating all your free time towards simply does not exist.

We'll see. There's nothing like sunshine as a disinfectant. That list is only as it is because two relatively new posters bent over backwards catering to the silliness of some of the established black holes.

[Iwasawitness]

So you cannot actually point to any lie. Figures.

Then I'll just say you are a good boy and deserve a pat on the head. Yes! That's praise!

...I literally just pointed out an entire thread worth of it. Again, there's no conspiracy against Curry. But if you really wanted me to get specific, I could talk about the fact that you think Curry has an argument over LeBron or MJ, his defensive impact on the Warriors and the god knows how many times you've tried to explain why and how Curry had the worst supporting cast of all time to win a title in 2015 and 2022.

Yeah I do. I think a projection could be made as early as 2016. Curry's gone to 4 finals and won 3 championships out of them since. What's your point?

Steph is a greater player than LeBron. If you guys don't see it that's your problem. But my estimate that I made years ago looks good to me.

And LeBron’s gone to ten while winning four, all while accomplishing far more than Curry and out playing him in every single finals they met in apart from 2018 (and that’s only because he had an injured hand after game 1). There’s no conceivable argument for Curry being greater and yet you’re acting like we’re all idiots for thinking it. At some point you need to realize there’s a reason no one here agrees with you. And it’s not because you’re smarter than us. It’s become evident at that point that you aren’t.