WOJ: Spurs draft Rob Dillingham 8th, then trade him to the TWolves for an unprotected 2031 first

[God Squad]

Spurs vs Timberwolves. The Rivalry no one asked for.

[Jabroni Lames]

That unprotected 2031 pick could be extemely valuable, right around the time the Spurs need it as a trade chip to keep building around Wemby.

[DwayneSchintzus]

We have a great young core and the player that is likely to be the best in the NBA in 6 years.

Victor Wembanyama is likely to be the best player in the NBA in 6 years. He's on our team, not the Wolves.

Just stop already.

That's possible. It's more likely Ant is. How about you stop it with your loser team and loser GM. The Wolves have GM superstar Tim Connelly. You have Wright leading you down the Wrong path. Who's going to be better in 2030? It's an easy call.

Edit: To be honest a couple bad years doesn't make you a loser team, but I stand by my comment that Wright is a loser GM. If you stick with him he will come away from the Wemby years with nothing to show for it. For your sake get rid of him as quick as you can.

this feels like trolling at this point. 65-year old diabetic "KGdaBom" says that its more likely that Ant will be the best player in the NBA in 6 years over Wemby (no serious NBA person is saying that) and now calling Brian Wright a loser and saying he is leading us down the Wrong (lol) path. Is this fun for you?

[Wingy]

Spurs vs Timberwolves. The Rivalry no one asked for.

Ha! I can't believe this keeps getting bumped back up, but it's just one of those threads apparently. Surely it will continue to surface now given its "it" factor and surely as Rob D. flourishes or flounders, or does whatever in between throughout the early stages of his career.

...and here, let me help it continue the magic with my post.

[Klomp]

Victor Wembanyama is likely to be the best player in the NBA in 6 years. He's on our team, not the Wolves.

Just stop already.

That's possible. It's more likely Ant is. How about you stop it with your loser team and loser GM. The Wolves have GM superstar Tim Connelly. You have Wright leading you down the Wrong path. Who's going to be better in 2030? It's an easy call.

Edit: To be honest a couple bad years doesn't make you a loser team, but I stand by my comment that Wright is a loser GM. If you stick with him he will come away from the Wemby years with nothing to show for it. For your sake get rid of him as quick as you can.

this feels like trolling at this point. 65-year old diabetic "KGdaBom" says that its more likely that Ant will be the best player in the NBA in 6 years over Wemby (no serious NBA person is saying that) and now calling Brian Wright a loser and saying he is leading us down the Wrong (lol) path. Is this fun for you?

KGdaBom is very passionate about his Timberwolves, you could say....but this is 100% genuinely who he is as a poster. It's not trolling.

[KGdaBom]

Victor Wembanyama is likely to be the best player in the NBA in 6 years. He's on our team, not the Wolves.

Just stop already.

That's possible. It's more likely Ant is. How about you stop it with your loser team and loser GM. The Wolves have GM superstar Tim Connelly. You have Wright leading you down the Wrong path. Who's going to be better in 2030? It's an easy call.

Edit: To be honest a couple bad years doesn't make you a loser team, but I stand by my comment that Wright is a loser GM. If you stick with him he will come away from the Wemby years with nothing to show for it. For your sake get rid of him as quick as you can.

this feels like trolling at this point. 65-year old diabetic "KGdaBom" says that its more likely that Ant will be the best player in the NBA in 6 years over Wemby (no serious NBA person is saying that) and now calling Brian Wright a loser and saying he is leading us down the Wrong (lol) path. Is this fun for you?

Nope. Many serious people see Ant becoming the best player in the NBA. You're the one who started trolling me acting like the Wolves will suck in 6 years. Ridiculous stuff. Wright is a buffoon. If you can't see that now I guess you never will.

[CIN-C-STAR]

That's possible. It's more likely Ant is. How about you stop it with your loser team and loser GM. The Wolves have GM superstar Tim Connelly. You have Wright leading you down the Wrong path. Who's going to be better in 2030? It's an easy call.

Edit: To be honest a couple bad years doesn't make you a loser team, but I stand by my comment that Wright is a loser GM. If you stick with him he will come away from the Wemby years with nothing to show for it. For your sake get rid of him as quick as you can.

this feels like trolling at this point. 65-year old diabetic "KGdaBom" says that its more likely that Ant will be the best player in the NBA in 6 years over Wemby (no serious NBA person is saying that) and now calling Brian Wright a loser and saying he is leading us down the Wrong (lol) path. Is this fun for you?

Nope. Many serious people see Ant becoming the best player in the NBA. You're the one who started trolling me acting like the Wolves will suck in 6 years. Ridiculous stuff. Wright is a buffoon. If you can't see that now I guess you never will.

He's had some misses, but a buffoon? Really?
The Demar sign and trade was good work. The Dejounte trade was a coup. The Harrison Barnes acquisition for free was praised by "many serious people" as well.
"Many serious people" also said this past draft was like if a normal draft started at pick #6, so if you believe "many serious people" than 6+8 = 14, which is just an average first round pick. That's probably about the value for a Wolves pick 6 years down the line.
Plus the Spurs got a lottery ticket in the form of a swap with just a #1 overall protection.
Yes those lottery tickets usually end up busts, but the Spurs have acquired a hand full of them in recent years, AND some solid draft capital as well.
They are well positioned to either make a trade for a star, or even better, draft a young star in the future when Wemby is on his max and they will need bargain contracts.
The Spurs are very forward thinking, and Wright's moves haven't even had a chance to bear fruit yet.
Those moves may pay off or they may not, but to call him a buffoon is just ignorant. I don't think they've drafted particularly well in his tenure, but he's been able to get good-to-great value in most of his trades, including this one (which was good value imho).

[Dan33185]

To be fair... whether the Timberwolves have solid young players or not is sorta irrelevant.

It's still unlikely many will be around in 6 years.



{Note: Including Edwards. I'm highly skeptical he'll be in Minnesota after this deal. There aren't enough financial incentives to overcome the many reasons he'll have to leave. So, as a Timberwolves fan, I'll try to enjoy the ride as much as possible while I can.]

Huh? Why exactly will he "have" to leave?

I think you misinterpreted my post.

He'll "have many reasons to leave"... doesn't mean he'll "have to leave."

I didn't misinterpret anything, I read exactly what you said. If that's not what you meant, say that, but don't say I didn't understand your post.

"There aren't enough financial incentives to overcome the many reasons he'll have to leave"

[KGdaBom]

this feels like trolling at this point. 65-year old diabetic "KGdaBom" says that its more likely that Ant will be the best player in the NBA in 6 years over Wemby (no serious NBA person is saying that) and now calling Brian Wright a loser and saying he is leading us down the Wrong (lol) path. Is this fun for you?

Nope. Many serious people see Ant becoming the best player in the NBA. You're the one who started trolling me acting like the Wolves will suck in 6 years. Ridiculous stuff. Wright is a buffoon. If you can't see that now I guess you never will.

He's had some misses, but a buffoon? Really?
The Demar sign and trade was good work. The Dejounte trade was a coup. The Harrison Barnes acquisition for free was praised by "many serious people" as well.
"Many serious people" also said this past draft was like if a normal draft started at pick #6, so if you believe "many serious people" than 6+8 = 14, which is just an average first round pick. That's probably about the value for a Wolves pick 6 years down the line.
Plus the Spurs got a lottery ticket in the form of a swap with just a #1 overall protection.
Yes those lottery tickets usually end up busts, but the Spurs have acquired a hand full of them in recent years, AND some solid draft capital as well.
They are well positioned to either make a trade for a star, or even better, draft a young star in the future when Wemby is on his max and they will need bargain contracts.
The Spurs are very forward thinking, and Wright's moves haven't even had a chance to bear fruit yet.
Those moves may pay off or they may not, but to call him a buffoon is just ignorant. I don't think they've drafted particularly well in his tenure, but he's been able to get good-to-great value in most of his trades, including this one (which was good value imho).

Horrible trade value. Worst I've ever seen. I understand delaying gratification, but a swap and a pick 6 and 7 years from now are just too far down the road. Wright won't get squat for those "assets" if he tries to trade them in the next 4 years. Maybe 5 years from now somebody will be interested. That's why I call him a buffoon. Trading a lottery pick in this years horrible, worst of all time not one single good player draft for that IMO should have got him fired on the spot. Odds are 6-7 years from now we're looking at the Wolves picks being in the 20s.

[G R E Y]

Has there ever been a near 25 page thread for an undersized O-only playing backup PG?

[Catchall]

Has there ever been a near 25 page thread for an undersized O-only playing backup PG?

No, but the Spurs might regret passing on Cody Williams….much like the Knicks probably regret trading away a lottery pick in 2022 that could have been Jalen Williams.

[CIN-C-STAR]

Has there ever been a near 25 page thread for an undersized O-only playing backup PG?

No, but the Spurs might regret passing on Cody Williams….much like the Knicks probably regret trading away a lottery pick in 2022 that could have been Jalen Williams.

There will definitely be some players from the draft the Spurs wish they had.
But I also think they were rightfully leery of having too many guys on rookie contracts at once.
It can be difficult to develop a lot of guys at the same time, both in terms of getting them reps with the ball and in terms of building their confidence.
I think that’s another reason it made sense for them to defer the pick so far out. They have extra picks coming in next season’s draft too. It’s better for development to spread the picks out imo.

[dhsilv2]

We have a great young core and the player that is likely to be the best in the NBA in 6 years.

Victor Wembanyama is likely to be the best player in the NBA in 6 years. He's on our team, not the Wolves.

Just stop already.

That's possible. It's more likely Ant is. How about you stop it with your loser team and loser GM. The Wolves have GM superstar Tim Connelly. You have Wright leading you down the Wrong path. Who's going to be better in 2030? It's an easy call.

Edit: To be honest a couple bad years doesn't make you a loser team, but I stand by my comment that Wright is a loser GM. If you stick with him he will come away from the Wemby years with nothing to show for it. For your sake get rid of him as quick as you can.

I like Edwards and all, but there's no strong reason to think he'll ever be the best player in the league. He's a good young guy but trying to see him as the best player in the league is a huge stretch.

[Klomp]

Huh? Why exactly will he "have" to leave?

I think you misinterpreted my post.

He'll "have many reasons to leave"... doesn't mean he'll "have to leave."

I didn't misinterpret anything, I read exactly what you said. If that's not what you meant, say that, but don't say I didn't understand your post.

"There aren't enough financial incentives to overcome the many reasons he'll have to leave"

"He'll have" is linked with "the many reasons" in this sentence, not with "to leave"

[Dan Z]

Has there ever been a near 25 page thread for an undersized O-only playing backup PG?

No, but the Spurs might regret passing on Cody Williams….much like the Knicks probably regret trading away a lottery pick in 2022 that could have been Jalen Williams.

There will definitely be some players from the draft the Spurs wish they had.
But I also think they were rightfully leery of having too many guys on rookie contracts at once.
It can be difficult to develop a lot of guys at the same time, both in terms of getting them reps with the ball and in terms of building their confidence.
I think that’s another reason it made sense for them to defer the pick so far out. They have extra picks coming in next season’s draft too. It’s better for development to spread the picks out imo.

How many players do they have on rookie contracts? I doubt one more would make a difference. But I understand why the Spurs made this move.

[Rust_Cohle]

No, but the Spurs might regret passing on Cody Williams….much like the Knicks probably regret trading away a lottery pick in 2022 that could have been Jalen Williams.

There will definitely be some players from the draft the Spurs wish they had.
But I also think they were rightfully leery of having too many guys on rookie contracts at once.
It can be difficult to develop a lot of guys at the same time, both in terms of getting them reps with the ball and in terms of building their confidence.
I think that’s another reason it made sense for them to defer the pick so far out. They have extra picks coming in next season’s draft too. It’s better for development to spread the picks out imo.

How many players do they have on rookie contracts? I doubt one more would make a difference. But I understand why the Spurs made this move.

One more rookie at Dillingham's contract would have cost the Spurs 8M. They preferred the flexibility with the cap space.

[AbeVigodaLive]

Huh? Why exactly will he "have" to leave?

I think you misinterpreted my post.

He'll "have many reasons to leave"... doesn't mean he'll "have to leave."

I didn't misinterpret anything, I read exactly what you said. If that's not what you meant, say that, but don't say I didn't understand your post.

"There aren't enough financial incentives to overcome the many reasons he'll have to leave"

Yikes. Maybe try reading it a third time?

It's not the cleanest sentence... but certainly not as challenging as you're making it out to be.

[KGdaBom]

Victor Wembanyama is likely to be the best player in the NBA in 6 years. He's on our team, not the Wolves.

Just stop already.

That's possible. It's more likely Ant is. How about you stop it with your loser team and loser GM. The Wolves have GM superstar Tim Connelly. You have Wright leading you down the Wrong path. Who's going to be better in 2030? It's an easy call.

Edit: To be honest a couple bad years doesn't make you a loser team, but I stand by my comment that Wright is a loser GM. If you stick with him he will come away from the Wemby years with nothing to show for it. For your sake get rid of him as quick as you can.

I like Edwards and all, but there's no strong reason to think he'll ever be the best player in the league. He's a good young guy but trying to see him as the best player in the league is a huge stretch.

Many people including famous national sports personalities expect Ant to be the best player in the NBA. Stephen A Smith for one. Will he become the best player? It's about a coin flip on that happening. He's not just a good young player. He's a Superstar. No Gumby or Stretch Armstrong required.
Probably the next most likely to take that title but a few years after Ant is Wembanyama. Rejoice Spurs fans and don't let Wrong F it up.

[Ayt]

That's possible. It's more likely Ant is. How about you stop it with your loser team and loser GM. The Wolves have GM superstar Tim Connelly. You have Wright leading you down the Wrong path. Who's going to be better in 2030? It's an easy call.

Edit: To be honest a couple bad years doesn't make you a loser team, but I stand by my comment that Wright is a loser GM. If you stick with him he will come away from the Wemby years with nothing to show for it. For your sake get rid of him as quick as you can.

I like Edwards and all, but there's no strong reason to think he'll ever be the best player in the league. He's a good young guy but trying to see him as the best player in the league is a huge stretch.

Many people including famous national sports personalities expect Ant to be the best player in the NBA. Stephen A Smith for one. Will he become the best player? It's about a coin flip on that happening. He's not just a good young player. He's a Superstar. No Gumby or Stretch Armstrong required.
Probably the next most likely to take that title but a few years after Ant is Wembanyama. Rejoice Spurs fans and don't let Wrong F it up.

Is Luka going somewhere? Ant likely won't even be the best player at his position with Shai around.

[ConSarnit]

Has there ever been a near 25 page thread for an undersized O-only playing backup PG?

Maybe a Lou Will thread got near this level when he was dating those 2 girls at the same time? I can’t really remember.