WOJ: Spurs draft Rob Dillingham 8th, then trade him to the TWolves for an unprotected 2031 first

[Klomp]

Has there ever been a near 25 page thread for an undersized O-only playing backup PG?

I'm sure he was drafted to be more than a backup at some point in his career.

Many draft pundits considered him one of the best pure talents in this draft class. Really the only knock on him is his size. And most people are saying his fit in Minnesota raises his floor considerably.

[One_and_Done]

Has there ever been a near 25 page thread for an undersized O-only playing backup PG?

I'm sure he was drafted to be more than a backup at some point in his career.

Many draft pundits considered him one of the best pure talents in this draft class. Really the only knock on him is his size. And most people are saying his fit in Minnesota raises his floor considerably.

He didn't seem to be creating alot of separation and blowing by guys in Summer League

[knicksfan974]

That unprotected 2031 pick could be extemely valuable, right around the time the Spurs need it as a trade chip to keep building around Wemby.

But also could be pretty much worthless, if it ends up being a late first-rounder. That's why I don't understand this trade at all for the Spurs. Who knows if Wemby by 2031 has gotten tired of losing and of the endless rebuilding project, and moves on, maybe to a bigger market.

[dhsilv2]

That's possible. It's more likely Ant is. How about you stop it with your loser team and loser GM. The Wolves have GM superstar Tim Connelly. You have Wright leading you down the Wrong path. Who's going to be better in 2030? It's an easy call.

Edit: To be honest a couple bad years doesn't make you a loser team, but I stand by my comment that Wright is a loser GM. If you stick with him he will come away from the Wemby years with nothing to show for it. For your sake get rid of him as quick as you can.

I like Edwards and all, but there's no strong reason to think he'll ever be the best player in the league. He's a good young guy but trying to see him as the best player in the league is a huge stretch.

Many people including famous national sports personalities expect Ant to be the best player in the NBA. Stephen A Smith for one. Will he become the best player? It's about a coin flip on that happening. He's not just a good young player. He's a Superstar. No Gumby or Stretch Armstrong required.
Probably the next most likely to take that title but a few years after Ant is Wembanyama. Rejoice Spurs fans and don't let Wrong F it up.

So, we both agree no chance ANT becomes the best then?

[firedavidkahn]

I'm so hyped for Dilly if only for the reason that he is exactly the type of player this team needs. He is a legitimate talent to grow alongside Ant.

I realize he isn't some can't miss prospect but he potentially covers up so many weaknesses on this team. We now have someone who can actually score the ball and get a bucket if needed. Too often if you could slow Ant down our offense would sputter because we had no other wings who can score. Now we do.

[Quentin]

I'm so hyped for Dilly if only for the reason that he is exactly the type of player this team needs. He is a legitimate talent to grow alongside Ant.

I realize he isn't some can't miss prospect but he potentially covers up so many weaknesses on this team. We now have someone who can actually score the ball and get a bucket if needed. Too often if you could slow Ant down our offense would sputter because we had no other wings who can score. Now we do.

I didn't know much about him until he was drafted and played in summer league. How do you explain his incredibly poor scoring in summer league? Didn't look like he could be counted on for very much offensively.

[Sealab2024]

I'm so hyped for Dilly if only for the reason that he is exactly the type of player this team needs. He is a legitimate talent to grow alongside Ant.

I realize he isn't some can't miss prospect but he potentially covers up so many weaknesses on this team. We now have someone who can actually score the ball and get a bucket if needed. Too often if you could slow Ant down our offense would sputter because we had no other wings who can score. Now we do.

I didn't know much about him until he was drafted and played in summer league. How do you explain his incredibly poor scoring in summer league? Didn't look like he could be counted on for very much offensively.

Dude went For 25 and 12 in his last SL game and was clearly the best player on the floor by a wide margin. Summer league shooting splits are notoriously unreliable.

[KGtabake]

I have 0 clue who this player is.
Impressive that he has a 25pages thread about him.

[AbeVigodaLive]

Dillingham MIGHT be a legit NBA talent. He might not be.

But his lack of size will definitely be a negative in the NBA.

On paper, he gives the Timberwolves a creator off the bench. On the court? Only time will tell.

[KGdaBom]

I like Edwards and all, but there's no strong reason to think he'll ever be the best player in the league. He's a good young guy but trying to see him as the best player in the league is a huge stretch.

Many people including famous national sports personalities expect Ant to be the best player in the NBA. Stephen A Smith for one. Will he become the best player? It's about a coin flip on that happening. He's not just a good young player. He's a Superstar. No Gumby or Stretch Armstrong required.
Probably the next most likely to take that title but a few years after Ant is Wembanyama. Rejoice Spurs fans and don't let Wrong F it up.

Is Luka going somewhere? Ant likely won't even be the best player at his position with Shai around.

Luka and Shai are both very good, but Luka is O only and both he and Shai are much older than Ant giving Ant more likelihood to improve. 3 very good players no doubt.

[KGdaBom]

I like Edwards and all, but there's no strong reason to think he'll ever be the best player in the league. He's a good young guy but trying to see him as the best player in the league is a huge stretch.

Many people including famous national sports personalities expect Ant to be the best player in the NBA. Stephen A Smith for one. Will he become the best player? It's about a coin flip on that happening. He's not just a good young player. He's a Superstar. No Gumby or Stretch Armstrong required.
Probably the next most likely to take that title but a few years after Ant is Wembanyama. Rejoice Spurs fans and don't let Wrong F it up.

So, we both agree no chance ANT becomes the best then?

WTF are you talking about. Ant is the most likely today to be the best 3 years from now. He has competition of course, but is the most likely.

[KGdaBom]

Has there ever been a near 25 page thread for an undersized O-only playing backup PG?

I'm sure he was drafted to be more than a backup at some point in his career.

Many draft pundits considered him one of the best pure talents in this draft class. Really the only knock on him is his size. And most people are saying his fit in Minnesota raises his floor considerably.

He didn't seem to be creating alot of separation and blowing by guys in Summer League

Other than not shooting straight his first four games Dilly was playing very well showing great facilitating skills. Game 5 the shot came around and he was sensational.

[dhsilv2]

Many people including famous national sports personalities expect Ant to be the best player in the NBA. Stephen A Smith for one. Will he become the best player? It's about a coin flip on that happening. He's not just a good young player. He's a Superstar. No Gumby or Stretch Armstrong required.
Probably the next most likely to take that title but a few years after Ant is Wembanyama. Rejoice Spurs fans and don't let Wrong F it up.

So, we both agree no chance ANT becomes the best then?

WTF are you talking about. Ant is the most likely today to be the best 3 years from now. He has competition of course, but is the most likely.

You just quoted Screaming A the Raciest Smith...a guy famous for his stupidity and inability to even think. I only assumed you joking about ANT after that.

But there's no reason at all based on what we've seen to think ANT is on a trajectory to be the best player in the league. He's a great young player and he might make a leap but he's not shown best in the league talent. He'd have to make a leap in multiple areas of his game all at once. And that's very rare.

[KGdaBom]

I'm so hyped for Dilly if only for the reason that he is exactly the type of player this team needs. He is a legitimate talent to grow alongside Ant.

I realize he isn't some can't miss prospect but he potentially covers up so many weaknesses on this team. We now have someone who can actually score the ball and get a bucket if needed. Too often if you could slow Ant down our offense would sputter because we had no other wings who can score. Now we do.

I didn't know much about him until he was drafted and played in summer league. How do you explain his incredibly poor scoring in summer league? Didn't look like he could be counted on for very much offensively.

It's called a poor shooting streak. His shot came around in game 5 and I will take that game and his full season of college ball as better evidence than a poor shooting stretch in SL.

[KGdaBom]

So, we both agree no chance ANT becomes the best then?

WTF are you talking about. Ant is the most likely today to be the best 3 years from now. He has competition of course, but is the most likely.

You just quoted Screaming A the Raciest Smith...a guy famous for his stupidity and inability to even think. I only assumed you joking about ANT after that.

But there's no reason at all based on what we've seen to think ANT is on a trajectory to be the best player in the league. He's a great young player and he might make a leap but he's not shown best in the league talent. He'd have to make a leap in multiple areas of his game all at once. And that's very rare.

I mentioned Stephen A as an example of a famous person believing it. There are many more. Ant becoming the best player in the NBA is a commonly held belief. Time will tell if those who believe it are correct or incorrect.

[CBS7]

Many people including famous national sports personalities expect Ant to be the best player in the NBA. Stephen A Smith for one. Will he become the best player? It's about a coin flip on that happening. He's not just a good young player. He's a Superstar. No Gumby or Stretch Armstrong required.
Probably the next most likely to take that title but a few years after Ant is Wembanyama. Rejoice Spurs fans and don't let Wrong F it up.

So, we both agree no chance ANT becomes the best then?

WTF are you talking about. Ant is the most likely today to be the best 3 years from now. He has competition of course, but is the most likely.

Ant isn't close enough to SGA/Luka and ahead enough of Wemby for this to be "the most likely".
Luka and SGA are 25/26. In 3 years they'll be 28/29. Still smack dab in the middle of their primes and unlikely to see any decline. There is no guarantee Ant reaches their current level.

Not a stretch to say Wemby is already ahead of ANT too. I'm not sure I agree and don't mind if you argue either way, but it isn't anywhere guaranteed he'd be better than Wemby next season, let alone 3 seasons from now.

He'll settle into Tatum level - maybe slightly better . All NBA 1st team caliber, but clearly a cut below the MVP favorites.

[dhsilv2]

WTF are you talking about. Ant is the most likely today to be the best 3 years from now. He has competition of course, but is the most likely.

You just quoted Screaming A the Raciest Smith...a guy famous for his stupidity and inability to even think. I only assumed you joking about ANT after that.

But there's no reason at all based on what we've seen to think ANT is on a trajectory to be the best player in the league. He's a great young player and he might make a leap but he's not shown best in the league talent. He'd have to make a leap in multiple areas of his game all at once. And that's very rare.

I mentioned Stephen A as an example of a famous person believing it. There are many more. Ant becoming the best player in the NBA is a commonly held belief. Time will tell if those who believe it are correct or incorrect.

That would be like if I said I dunno...Danny Devito says ANT is going to be good. Giant who cares. At this point short of Lowe and Legler there isn't a functional brain cell talking basketball at ESPN.

But again, there's no chance he's the best in 3 years. Luka, Giannis, and Jokic aren't even going to be done and falling off. 6 years and I guess it's possible. But not in 3.

[KGdaBom]

So, we both agree no chance ANT becomes the best then?

WTF are you talking about. Ant is the most likely today to be the best 3 years from now. He has competition of course, but is the most likely.

Ant isn't close enough to SGA/Luka and ahead enough of Wemby for this to be "the most likely".
Luka and SGA are 25/26. In 3 years they'll be 28/29. Still smack dab in the middle of their primes and unlikely to see any decline. There is no guarantee Ant reaches their current level.

Not a stretch to say Wemby is already ahead of ANT too. I'm not sure I agree and don't mind if you argue any way, but it isn't anywhere guaranteed he'd be better than Wemby next season, let alone 3 seasons from now.

He'll settle into Tatum level - maybe slightly better . All NBA 1st team caliber, but clearly a cut below the MVP candidates.

First of all Ant is close to Luka (defense matters) and may already be better than Shai. Who is most likely to improve the most over the next three years. Ant by far. It's a massive stretch to consider Wemby in the same class as Ant. Eventually Wemby could catch and pass Ant, but Centers are hard to predict. It will be fun to see who the best player is 3 years from now, but Ant is the front runner.

[dhsilv2]

WTF are you talking about. Ant is the most likely today to be the best 3 years from now. He has competition of course, but is the most likely.

Ant isn't close enough to SGA/Luka and ahead enough of Wemby for this to be "the most likely".
Luka and SGA are 25/26. In 3 years they'll be 28/29. Still smack dab in the middle of their primes and unlikely to see any decline. There is no guarantee Ant reaches their current level.

Not a stretch to say Wemby is already ahead of ANT too. I'm not sure I agree and don't mind if you argue any way, but it isn't anywhere guaranteed he'd be better than Wemby next season, let alone 3 seasons from now.

He'll settle into Tatum level - maybe slightly better . All NBA 1st team caliber, but clearly a cut below the MVP candidates.

First of all Ant is close to Luka (defense matters) and may already be better than Shai. Who is most likely to improve the most over the next three years. Ant by far. It's a massive stretch to consider Wemby in the same class as Ant. Eventually Wemby could catch and pass Ant, but Centers are hard to predict. It will be fun to see who the best player is 3 years from now, but Ant is the front runner.

ANT isn't anywhere close to Luka, and that's with us knowing that defense matters and Ant's better.

The gap is really huge. ANT hasn't learned how to control tempo and make his scoring and athletic ability convert into better team offense. He just isn't there yet.

[KGdaBom]

You just quoted Screaming A the Raciest Smith...a guy famous for his stupidity and inability to even think. I only assumed you joking about ANT after that.

But there's no reason at all based on what we've seen to think ANT is on a trajectory to be the best player in the league. He's a great young player and he might make a leap but he's not shown best in the league talent. He'd have to make a leap in multiple areas of his game all at once. And that's very rare.

I mentioned Stephen A as an example of a famous person believing it. There are many more. Ant becoming the best player in the NBA is a commonly held belief. Time will tell if those who believe it are correct or incorrect.

That would be like if I said I dunno...Danny Devito says ANT is going to be good. Giant who cares. At this point short of Lowe and Legler there isn't a functional brain cell talking basketball at ESPN.

But again, there's no chance he's the best in 3 years. Luka, Giannis, and Jokic aren't even going to be done and falling off. 6 years and I guess it's possible. But not in 3.

This is just a matter of opinion. There's no right or wrong answer. My opinion is probably the most widely held. Maybe I should have said 4 years. We will find out 3 years from now. Getting back on topic hopefully Dilly is a quality starting NBA PG by then.