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Trades and Transactions Thread Cont'd - Where the Center At?

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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread Cont'd - Where the Center At? 

Post#941 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Aug 15, 2024 2:47 am

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Completely and utterly unreliable. We need a starting level because this guy isn't it.

Was he hurt worse against than the original injury? Maybe they are just being extra cautious.




There's only so much caution, he's had constant ankle injuries throughout his career, it's a cycle because he gains weight while injured which puts more stress on his already brittle ankle/foot area and he gets hurt as a result.

https://www.foxsports.com/nba/mitchell-robinson-player-injuries


"Ankle" comes up 17 times in his injury history. It's not matter of if he gets hurt this season, just a matter of how severe and at what point in the season
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread Cont'd - Where the Center At? 

Post#942 » by NiceLikeChrist » Thu Aug 15, 2024 2:48 am

why did fartenstein do that to us. ruined a perfect summer.
NiceLikeChrist wrote:We are going to deeply regret this. We traded away the best player in the trade and still had to give up a great role player AND a pick?

so many people are going to eat their words about randle
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread Cont'd - Where the Center At? 

Post#943 » by RHODEY » Thu Aug 15, 2024 2:51 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:

Completely and utterly unreliable. We need a starting level because this guy isn't it.

Was he hurt worse against than the original injury? Maybe they are just being extra cautious.




There's only so much caution, he's had constant ankle injuries throughout his career, it's a cycle because he gains weight while injured which puts more stress on his already brittle ankle/foot area and he gets hurt as a result.

https://www.foxsports.com/nba/mitchell-robinson-player-injuries


"Ankle" comes up 17 times in his injury history. It's not matter of if he gets hurt this season, just a matter of how severe and at what point in the season


I remember when Steph Curry used to have chronic ankle injuries....but he finally able the right treatments.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread Cont'd - Where the Center At? 

Post#944 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Aug 15, 2024 3:09 am

RHODEY wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
RHODEY wrote:Was he hurt worse against than the original injury? Maybe they are just being extra cautious.




There's only so much caution, he's had constant ankle injuries throughout his career, it's a cycle because he gains weight while injured which puts more stress on his already brittle ankle/foot area and he gets hurt as a result.

https://www.foxsports.com/nba/mitchell-robinson-player-injuries


"Ankle" comes up 17 times in his injury history. It's not matter of if he gets hurt this season, just a matter of how severe and at what point in the season


I remember when Steph Curry used to have chronic ankle injuries....but he finally able the right treatments.



Steph was spraining his ankle, he didn't have constant stress fractures like this and they nipped it in the bud after his 3rd season. This was supposed to be a 6-8 week injury for Mitch, he was hurt in May and there's doubt he won't be ready for training camp which is Sept 30, we need a real center.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread Cont'd - Where the Center At? 

Post#945 » by aggo » Thu Aug 15, 2024 3:26 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:

Completely and utterly unreliable. We need a starting level because this guy isn't it.

Was he hurt worse against than the original injury? Maybe they are just being extra cautious.




There's only so much caution, he's had constant ankle injuries throughout his career, it's a cycle because he gains weight while injured which puts more stress on his already brittle ankle/foot area and he gets hurt as a result.

https://www.foxsports.com/nba/mitchell-robinson-player-injuries


"Ankle" comes up 17 times in his injury history. It's not matter of if he gets hurt this season, just a matter of how severe and at what point in the season

7 footers + foot and leg injuries are a real combination

Remember Yao ?

The human body is not supposed to be 7 foot and play athletics without something breaking
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread Cont'd - Where the Center At? 

Post#946 » by Knick4Real » Thu Aug 15, 2024 4:20 am

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This is not good news, considering we only have Sims and Precious as alternatives. :banghead:
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Post#947 » by WargamesX » Thu Aug 15, 2024 6:02 am

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This is not good news, considering we only have Sims and Precious as alternatives. :banghead:


There is a legit chance they trade Mitch for a less talented but more reliable center.
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Post#948 » by R-DAWG » Thu Aug 15, 2024 10:31 am

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This is not good news, considering we only have Sims and Precious as alternatives. :banghead:


There is a legit chance they trade Mitch for a less talented but more reliable center.


Mitch for Clint Capela? Capela just turned 30 and is entering the last year of his contract. He’s been durable (averaged 70 games per year over the last 3 seasons) and his numbers have been consistent (minutes/production down in Atl but not significantly).

ATL could justify this trade as getting younger and less expensive as they retool around Trae.

An expanded version of this trade would be Mitch + Duce for Capela and the least favorable of the LAL/SAC 25 1st rd pick (turning into the least favorable of MIL/NOP 27 1st if the 25 SAC pick does not convey to ATL - it’s top 12 protected).

NY would need Duces salary to complete this trade and would all start to re-stock the cuppard for future trades.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread Cont'd - Where the Center At? 

Post#949 » by R-DAWG » Thu Aug 15, 2024 10:35 am

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Idk - im not sold on Tobias Bridges.

Kinda worried we blew our resources on a role player.

The cost of that trade was a bit crazy. Plus I'm skeptical of how the starting five fits, assuming all three of OG, Mikal and Randle start. The FO needed to do something with this new CBA but I think Mikal's impact will be marginal. Maybe it's the small difference that makes us a Finals contender but that remains to be seen.


Why did the front office need to do something? Seems to me like they could have run it back with a team that went to game 7 of the 2nd rd without its second best player.

They could have made some moves in the margins - using the Bogdonovic contract and a 2024 1st to add another shot creator off the bench (Norm Powell would have been great, but Jordan Clarkson, Collin Sexton and Malcolm Brogdon all could have fit).

The team would still be a top 4 team in the East with a ton of flexibility going forward. So I don’t buy this “they had to do something narrative”. They could have portioned themselves to rebuild around Brunson (even on a full max) in 1-2 years.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread Cont'd - Where the Center At? 

Post#950 » by R-DAWG » Thu Aug 15, 2024 10:48 am

Besart19 wrote:Mitch - Tyson
Randle - Amare
Sims - Camby
Achiuwa - Kurt
Sims - Kenyon
Yabussele?! - Sheed
Anunoby - Melo
Bridges - Shumpert
Donte - JR Smith
Hart - Brewer
Dadiet - Copeland
McCullar - White
Brunson - Felton
Kolek - Kidd
Payne - Prigioni
McBride | Novak

a lot of similarities but the 2012-13 team has only 4 players better than the current roster, maybe just 2


I think the comparison of the top 3 of those teams is very similar

Brunson = Melo - 2nd tier stars who touch the top-5 of mvp voting in their mid to late 20’s
Randle = Amare - star player entering his 30’s with a developing injury history
Bridges = Tyson - elite role player acquired at a star price.

The downfall of the 2013 team was Tyson becoming the teams 2nd best player because of Amare’s injury. Which also resulted in not having a true #2 scorer

I think the 2024-25 team is much better 3-6 with Anunoby/Hart/DDV compared to Smith/Felton/Kidd.
You can throw a Shump/Mitch comp in the mix. A Kolek/Pablo comp. Others but the bottom of the roster is less significant.

But the comp of landing a number 1 and overpaying for a #3, in turn locking yourself into a less than ideal #2 is spot on. But if Randle stays healthy, the 24-25 time is deeper, younger and better fitting than the 2013 team.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread Cont'd - Where the Center At? 

Post#951 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Aug 15, 2024 11:48 am

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Get ready for 2 months of fat Mitch followed by nagging injuries.

So basically the sham curse is going to be the reason why we don’t win a chip. Mods you know what to do. Ban that dusty mf!!
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Post#952 » by DaGawd » Thu Aug 15, 2024 12:10 pm

the mitch news… yikes..

a starting caliber center is def an acquisition we have to look in to before camp imo.. and not some of the bottom of the barrel names that we’ve been discussing
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Post#953 » by 8516knicks » Thu Aug 15, 2024 2:04 pm

DaGawd wrote:the mitch news… yikes..

a starting caliber center is def an acquisition we have to look in to before camp imo.. and not some of the bottom of the barrel names that we’ve been discussing


These kind of YEARLY reports on Mitch kind of seal-the-deal on him. Vote him off the Island. We can probably survive to mid-season but we need a RELIABLE center who WILL play more than 50 games a year. :nod:
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Post#954 » by 8516knicks » Thu Aug 15, 2024 2:07 pm

aggo wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
RHODEY wrote:Was he hurt worse against than the original injury? Maybe they are just being extra cautious.




There's only so much caution, he's had constant ankle injuries throughout his career, it's a cycle because he gains weight while injured which puts more stress on his already brittle ankle/foot area and he gets hurt as a result.

https://www.foxsports.com/nba/mitchell-robinson-player-injuries


"Ankle" comes up 17 times in his injury history. It's not matter of if he gets hurt this season, just a matter of how severe and at what point in the season

7 footers + foot and leg injuries are a real combination

Remember Yao ?

The human body is not supposed to be A FAT 7 foot and play athletics without something breaking

Fixed.
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Post#955 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Aug 15, 2024 2:45 pm

Mitch would rather drink Strohs beer and work on lifting his pickup than work out and getting in shape
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Post#956 » by F N 11 » Thu Aug 15, 2024 3:08 pm

Can’t go into the year thinking wings going to cut it’s we gotta find a way to get a damn starting center. Again Hartenstein was not a scrub!!!
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Post#957 » by Fat Kat » Thu Aug 15, 2024 3:10 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Mitch would rather drink Strohs beer and work on lifting his pickup than work out and getting in shape


He’s definitely remains uncommitted to the game. A damn shame given his talent.
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Post#959 » by Guano » Thu Aug 15, 2024 3:29 pm

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Idk - im not sold on Tobias Bridges.

Kinda worried we blew our resources on a role player.


awful take... damn.

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