The Rob Dillingham Thread

[Folklore]

I can't remember who said it but someone also had concerns about our backup PG position being too thin and I feel the same. NAW and RD are our backup PG's right now but what about next year once NAW is gone? Nix? But Nix wont get playing time. So we'll have a very raw RD being our starting PG? Then we're all going to be wishing we got D Murray when we had the chance. But Naz might be gone? This team is going backwards fast to the point that we're just going to be a play-in team. RD doesn't have time to not hit the floor running.

With Finch I see RD avg 5.1 minutes/game, playing in 42 games - 4.9 ppg 0.6 rpg 4.5 apg 0.1 spg

I still think its crazy to compare a guy we traded up to 8th to draft with 2 super raw 2nd round picks.

But if RD can put up 5 points and 4.5 assists in just 5 MPG, he's going to be a superstar...

Haha I was way off. My official prediction is 70 GP 15 MIN 8.9 PTS 1.2 REB 2.0 AST 0.4 STL 0.1 BLK for the season

I hope that he becomes a superstar.

[Colbinii]

We would have lost more games and there is no guarantee playing losing minutes develops 2nd round picks.

Finchy played Anthony Edwards a ton of minutes as a rookie.

[Folklore]

Watch on YouTube

This is a great watch

There was post with a lot of highlights at this game but people forget that highlights leave out a lot of ugly lowlights. The guy in the white t-shirt was manhandling RD. Another guy who was on the white shirt didn't let him push him around. I know not to put too much in this but there's a couple bad habits RD has like jumping to pass, ball watching of defense so he's losing him man, not running up the court after a rebound.

[minimus]

Bringing in Monte Morris was a slap to JMac's face and to not resign Morris made it worse

I am big McLaughlin fan, but... First, McLaughlin missed multiple games due to injuries in last two years. But main problem was that being small guard every his injury was slowing him down, and he was recovering slowly. Second, even after all his shortcoming and injuries coach Finch often played him before Monte. Finally, we have learned that McLaughlin was one of Finch favourite players. I dont see here much drama.

[BlacJacMac]

We would have lost more games and there is no guarantee playing losing minutes develops 2nd round picks.

Finchy played Anthony Edwards a ton of minutes as a rookie.

He also significantly increased McDaniels minutes when he took over. Played him close to 30 MPG.

[Klomp]

We would have lost more games and there is no guarantee playing losing minutes develops 2nd round picks.

Finchy played Anthony Edwards a ton of minutes as a rookie.

He also significantly increased McDaniels minutes when he took over. Played him close to 30 MPG.

Though it took him a while to get there.

[BlacJacMac]

We would have lost more games and there is no guarantee playing losing minutes develops 2nd round picks.

Finchy played Anthony Edwards a ton of minutes as a rookie.

He also significantly increased McDaniels minutes when he took over. Played him close to 30 MPG.

Though it took him a while to get there.

Not that long!

McDaniels played limited minutes in Finch's first 3 or 4 games and then was consistently in the high 20s to low 30s.

And after only starting 1 game under Ryan, it only took Finch 10 games to install Jaden into the starting line-up.

[Klomp]

He also significantly increased McDaniels minutes when he took over. Played him close to 30 MPG.

Though it took him a while to get there.

Not that long!

McDaniels played limited minutes in Finch's first 3 or 4 games and then was consistently in the high 20s to low 30s.

And after only starting 1 game under Ryan, it only took Finch 10 games to install Jaden into the starting line-up.

Yeah but those were an excruciatingly long 10 games!

[minimus]

Watch on YouTube

The Atlanta Hawks ran Trae Young through a TON of screens in his freshman season, but one of their pet sets was this Double Drag action. Trae will get two ball screens in a row, sometimes from two bigs, sometimes from a wing or guard and a big. Whatever the combination, the Hawks have players who are aware of their strengths and play to them, and they have bigs capable of stretching the floor and hitting shots when they pop out. As a defense, you’re forced to make decisions: do we just switch everything? In that case, there’s obviously going to be a mismatch. Trae is cagey enough not to give away what he’s going to do until he does it (regarding attacking the big or hitting his big on the roll or pop). Does the defense hard hedge the second screen? Well, either attack that gap the defender is no longer occupying, or have that screener slip the screen. You’ll see Young throw a variety of passes in these situations, and his ability to look the play off, to freeze defenders with fakes, all the while keeping the defense honest with his ability to attack the rim, play the in-between game, and shoot from distance is pretty spectacular for someone so young. The best part is that he’s not alone in his playmaking, because everyone who sets a screen for him has the versatility to slip, pop, roll, or even rescreen just opens everything up.

One of my favorite wrinkles they run out of this is actually the end where they sort of disguise the action and then have the ball get pitched to Trae and then receives another screen. The pitch is essentially the first screen, and that gets him sort of going downhill, so that by the time he gets that second screen, he’s got as many avenues to attack as he wants. That and the quick hit ahead pass Trae will throw, only to get it pitched back? Beautiful. It’s practically the same, but any kind of movement that gets multiple players touching the ball and being able to potentially make plays is always enjoyable to me.

IMO double drag should be Rob's default play in his rookie year.

P.S. I also think Ingles addition will help a lot. Although I think he will act more as screener, stretch the floor guy, than ballhandler.

Watch on YouTube

[Klomp]

P.S. I also think Ingles addition will help a lot. Although I think he will act more as screener, stretch the floor guy, than ballhandler.

A lot of people have convinced me that Ingles might be just a "break glass if emergency" option, but then when you think about ways to help ease Dillingham's transition into the NBA, playing him alongside a Joe Ingles is a great way to do that. It would mean that the success of the second unit isn't squarely on the rookie's shoulders.

Worth noting that Orlando went 5-9 in games Ingles missed, all within a 15-game stretch from mid-December to mid-January.

[minimus]

P.S. I also think Ingles addition will help a lot. Although I think he will act more as screener, stretch the floor guy, than ballhandler.

A lot of people have convinced me that Ingles might be just a "break glass if emergency" option, but then when you think about ways to help ease Dillingham's transition into the NBA, playing him alongside a Joe Ingles is a great way to do that. It would mean that the success of the second unit isn't squarely on the rookie's shoulders.

Worth noting that Orlando went 5-9 in games Ingles missed, all within a 15-game stretch from mid-December to mid-January.

Yeah, I think Ingles presence and experience will add little secondary action that creates offensive flow. We have seen from Conley as lead guard, but MIN kind of lacked complimentary guys, who knows how to set screens, creates passing lanes etc.

[Klomp]

P.S. I also think Ingles addition will help a lot. Although I think he will act more as screener, stretch the floor guy, than ballhandler.

A lot of people have convinced me that Ingles might be just a "break glass if emergency" option, but then when you think about ways to help ease Dillingham's transition into the NBA, playing him alongside a Joe Ingles is a great way to do that. It would mean that the success of the second unit isn't squarely on the rookie's shoulders.

Worth noting that Orlando went 5-9 in games Ingles missed, all within a 15-game stretch from mid-December to mid-January.

Yeah, I think Ingles presence and experience will add little secondary action that creates offensive flow. We have seen from Conley as lead guard, but MIN kind of lacked complimentary guys, who knows how to set screens, creates passing lanes etc.

The interesting thing to me is that I actually see Conley as more of a secondary option guy, once an initial action breaks down. He knows where to get the ball to. Ingles does that too, as did Kyle last year for the second unit.

Ant is usually the guy running the initial action for the first team, even if that initial action is to set up his own shot. But where things would break down was when he would sit. There was no one else who could take that role, so Kyle would become the primary and secondary guy for the second team. That's where Rob can step in and contribute right away, in that 'second-team Ant' role.

[frankenwolf]

The Atlanta Hawks ran Trae Young through a TON of screens in his freshman season, but one of their pet sets was this Double Drag action. Trae will get two ball screens in a row, sometimes from two bigs, sometimes from a wing or guard and a big. Whatever the combination, the Hawks have players who are aware of their strengths and play to them, and they have bigs capable of stretching the floor and hitting shots when they pop out. As a defense, you’re forced to make decisions: do we just switch everything? In that case, there’s obviously going to be a mismatch. Trae is cagey enough not to give away what he’s going to do until he does it (regarding attacking the big or hitting his big on the roll or pop). Does the defense hard hedge the second screen? Well, either attack that gap the defender is no longer occupying, or have that screener slip the screen. You’ll see Young throw a variety of passes in these situations, and his ability to look the play off, to freeze defenders with fakes, all the while keeping the defense honest with his ability to attack the rim, play the in-between game, and shoot from distance is pretty spectacular for someone so young. The best part is that he’s not alone in his playmaking, because everyone who sets a screen for him has the versatility to slip, pop, roll, or even rescreen just opens everything up.

One of my favorite wrinkles they run out of this is actually the end where they sort of disguise the action and then have the ball get pitched to Trae and then receives another screen. The pitch is essentially the first screen, and that gets him sort of going downhill, so that by the time he gets that second screen, he’s got as many avenues to attack as he wants. That and the quick hit ahead pass Trae will throw, only to get it pitched back? Beautiful. It’s practically the same, but any kind of movement that gets multiple players touching the ball and being able to potentially make plays is always enjoyable to me.

IMO double drag should be Rob's default play in his rookie year.

P.S. I also think Ingles addition will help a lot. Although I think he will act more as screener, stretch the floor guy, than ballhandler.

Are we really looking for RD to score as much a Trae needed to in his rookie year? Aren't we looking for a facilitator who can get his own shot if needed.

[minimus]

The Atlanta Hawks ran Trae Young through a TON of screens in his freshman season, but one of their pet sets was this Double Drag action. Trae will get two ball screens in a row, sometimes from two bigs, sometimes from a wing or guard and a big. Whatever the combination, the Hawks have players who are aware of their strengths and play to them, and they have bigs capable of stretching the floor and hitting shots when they pop out. As a defense, you’re forced to make decisions: do we just switch everything? In that case, there’s obviously going to be a mismatch. Trae is cagey enough not to give away what he’s going to do until he does it (regarding attacking the big or hitting his big on the roll or pop). Does the defense hard hedge the second screen? Well, either attack that gap the defender is no longer occupying, or have that screener slip the screen. You’ll see Young throw a variety of passes in these situations, and his ability to look the play off, to freeze defenders with fakes, all the while keeping the defense honest with his ability to attack the rim, play the in-between game, and shoot from distance is pretty spectacular for someone so young. The best part is that he’s not alone in his playmaking, because everyone who sets a screen for him has the versatility to slip, pop, roll, or even rescreen just opens everything up.

One of my favorite wrinkles they run out of this is actually the end where they sort of disguise the action and then have the ball get pitched to Trae and then receives another screen. The pitch is essentially the first screen, and that gets him sort of going downhill, so that by the time he gets that second screen, he’s got as many avenues to attack as he wants. That and the quick hit ahead pass Trae will throw, only to get it pitched back? Beautiful. It’s practically the same, but any kind of movement that gets multiple players touching the ball and being able to potentially make plays is always enjoyable to me.

IMO double drag should be Rob's default play in his rookie year.

P.S. I also think Ingles addition will help a lot. Although I think he will act more as screener, stretch the floor guy, than ballhandler.

Are we really looking for RD to score as much a Trae needed to in his rookie year? Aren't we looking for a facilitator who can get his own shot if needed.

MIN need an elite playmaker. One who can make plays for himself or/and for others.

If TC wanted a facilitator, one Monte Morris or Tyus Jones would be here.

[thinktank]

IMO double drag should be Rob's default play in his rookie year.

P.S. I also think Ingles addition will help a lot. Although I think he will act more as screener, stretch the floor guy, than ballhandler.

Are we really looking for RD to score as much a Trae needed to in his rookie year? Aren't we looking for a facilitator who can get his own shot if needed.

MIN need an elite playmaker. One who can make plays for himself or/and for others.

If TC wanted a facilitator, one Monte Morris or Tyus Jones would be here.

Tyus wasn’t coming here no matter what. He’s starting for Phoenix. And Monte wasn’t very good so that explains his departure.

I can’t tell if you think Dilly is a facilitator or not. Sayin.

[Colbinii]

IMO double drag should be Rob's default play in his rookie year.

P.S. I also think Ingles addition will help a lot. Although I think he will act more as screener, stretch the floor guy, than ballhandler.

Are we really looking for RD to score as much a Trae needed to in his rookie year? Aren't we looking for a facilitator who can get his own shot if needed.

MIN need an elite playmaker. One who can make plays for himself or/and for others.

If TC wanted a facilitator, one Monte Morris or Tyus Jones would be here.

Huh? The Monte Morris situation soured and Tyus Jones was never coming here brah.

[frankenwolf]

IMO double drag should be Rob's default play in his rookie year.

P.S. I also think Ingles addition will help a lot. Although I think he will act more as screener, stretch the floor guy, than ballhandler.

Are we really looking for RD to score as much a Trae needed to in his rookie year? Aren't we looking for a facilitator who can get his own shot if needed.

MIN need an elite playmaker. One who can make plays for himself or/and for others.

If TC wanted a facilitator, one Monte Morris or Tyus Jones would be here.

So Ant isn't an elite playmaker?

[BlacJacMac]

Are we really looking for RD to score as much a Trae needed to in his rookie year? Aren't we looking for a facilitator who can get his own shot if needed.

MIN need an elite playmaker. One who can make plays for himself or/and for others.

If TC wanted a facilitator, one Monte Morris or Tyus Jones would be here.

So Ant isn't an elite playmaker?

No.

At least not as far as "for others". He's become a much better passer, but definitely not "elite" (yet).

[thinktank]

MIN need an elite playmaker. One who can make plays for himself or/and for others.

If TC wanted a facilitator, one Monte Morris or Tyus Jones would be here.

So Ant isn't an elite playmaker?

No.

At least not as far as "for others". He's become a much better passer, but definitely not "elite" (yet).

Is Mike Conley?

What’s “elite” to you?

10 assists? 9?

[minimus]

Are we really looking for RD to score as much a Trae needed to in his rookie year? Aren't we looking for a facilitator who can get his own shot if needed.

MIN need an elite playmaker. One who can make plays for himself or/and for others.

If TC wanted a facilitator, one Monte Morris or Tyus Jones would be here.

So Ant isn't an elite playmaker?

Imagine Edwards in DAL instead of Doncic. Would Ant be able to run DAL offense like this?

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I dont think so.