Washington Wizards: what's your RealGM analysis?

[ConSarnit]

Assuming stealing Sam Presti is not an option, I still think the Wizards need to hire a GM and a coach for the long-term.

What they need to focus on is developing a franchise that offers stability from the GM and coach that can then build a development system they can hopefully churn out NBA rotation players from. If I were them, I'd be looking to pluck assistant coaches/front office guys/scouts from teams like San Antonio, Miami, Toronto, or OKC. I'd also make sure to focus on bringing in high-quality NBA vets who could help mentor the younger players they're bound to bring in.

Not that I can fault you for not paying attention to the recent activities of the Wizards but they just hired a new president (Winger, formerly of OKC and the Clippers) and GM (Dawkins, formerly of OKC) last summer. They just hired a new head coach this off-season (O’Keefe, former assistant in LA, OKC and BKN). They signed Valancianus this off-season as a vet. They have basically already done everything you wanted them to.

[Bobbymcgee]

They need to be competing for that number one draft pick next year. So they need to be actively trying to get rid of Brogdon and Kuzma for draft picks and young players. Poole as a tank commander is fine.

[LaLover11]

Just relocate the wizards to Mexico
Let Jordan Poole chill with Latina baddies

GB Strike 4 issued for unrelenting tsunami of trolling, derailing and general nonsense in these and many other posts, just from the last few days. -b

[SA37]

Assuming stealing Sam Presti is not an option, I still think the Wizards need to hire a GM and a coach for the long-term.

What they need to focus on is developing a franchise that offers stability from the GM and coach that can then build a development system they can hopefully churn out NBA rotation players from. If I were them, I'd be looking to pluck assistant coaches/front office guys/scouts from teams like San Antonio, Miami, Toronto, or OKC. I'd also make sure to focus on bringing in high-quality NBA vets who could help mentor the younger players they're bound to bring in.

Not that I can fault you for not paying attention to the recent activities of the Wizards but they just hired a new president (Winger, formerly of OKC and the Clippers) and GM (Dawkins, formerly of OKC) last summer. They just hired a new head coach this off-season (O’Keefe, former assistant in LA, OKC and BKN). They signed Valancianus this off-season as a vet. They have basically already done everything you wanted them to.

Yeah I wasn't aware of the FO moves, but if they are not given a good ~7-8 years to get something long-term set up, they'll just be back the cycle of hiring/firing people every couple of years.

Outside of Valanciunas, I don't really see the kind of vet presence I think is needed on the roster. This is a relatively easy fix, but right now the Wizards are basically teeming with guys all looking to make a name for themselves/stay relevant in the league. Compare this to who San Antonio has put around its young guys (Harrison Barnes, Chris Paul, Cedi Osman).

We'll see where they stand ~2-3 years from now.

[floppymoose]

I will be forever grateful to WAS for taking JP off our hands. GSW owes you a solid.

[wegotthabeet]

tried to vote Washington Generals bad, but it was not an option.

this franchise is the worst of the worst. the new Clippers.

[durden_tyler]

Tank properly and aggressively and they'll be fine.

[Chuck Everett]

I voted very bad. Dawkins and Winger don't impress me at all. And lowkey, Sam Presti's exec tree is horrendous. These guys learn nothing from him apparently.

I think this rebuild is at a minimum another 5 years of treading water. Every player on the roster is a role player (Sarr could be something more if his offense pans out, but I have no doubt that Coulibaly's best hope for success is a role playing wing. He just doesn't have the instincts of a scorer). A bunch of guys who will help better players once they're on other teams.This tank is going to be brutal for their fans.

[whatisacenter]

I will be forever grateful to WAS for taking JP off our hands. GSW owes you a solid.

GS owes them a potential FRP!

I hated this trade for the Warriors because they got older, smaller and missed the playoffs with CP. And then they compounded that by getting nothing back for CP's expiring contract. Sure they dumped salary but they lost a season and I was hoping the Dubs would get a couple of roll players for Poole.

On to the Wiz. I chose, I like it a little, they have decided on tanking and starting over which is at least a direction. And I like Bilal and Bub.

[Dan Z]

I will be forever grateful to WAS for taking JP off our hands. GSW owes you a solid.

GS owes them a potential FRP!

I hated this trade for the Warriors because they got older, smaller and missed the playoffs with CP. And then they compounded that by getting nothing back for CP's expiring contract. Sure they dumped salary but they lost a season and I was hoping the Dubs would get a couple of roll players for Poole.

On to the Wiz. I chose, I like it a little, they have decided on tanking and starting over which is at least a direction. And I like Bilal and Bub.

It was a terrible trade for the Wizards and a good one for the Warriors. The pick Golden State gave up is a 2030 pick that's protected 1-20. If it falls within it's protection then it turns into a 2nd round pick.

[CP3nthusiast]

Didn't love their draft, the Poole trade was and continues to be an unmitigated disaster, they should've traded Kuzma when the market for him was hot. D+ so far for the front office, would be a D- if they didn't get a nice haul for Deni Avdija.

[whatisacenter]

I will be forever grateful to WAS for taking JP off our hands. GSW owes you a solid.

GS owes them a potential FRP!

I hated this trade for the Warriors because they got older, smaller and missed the playoffs with CP. And then they compounded that by getting nothing back for CP's expiring contract. Sure they dumped salary but they lost a season and I was hoping the Dubs would get a couple of roll players for Poole.

On to the Wiz. I chose, I like it a little, they have decided on tanking and starting over which is at least a direction. And I like Bilal and Bub.

It was a terrible trade for the Wizards and a good one for the Warriors. The pick Golden State gave up is a 2030 pick that's protected 1-20. If it falls within it's protection then it turns into a 2nd round pick.

It was a straight salary dump for the warriors and they missed the playoffs….I don’t consider that good.

[SweaterBae]

The Wizards are an example of why the league should be contracted, not expanded.

[Dan Z]

GS owes them a potential FRP!

I hated this trade for the Warriors because they got older, smaller and missed the playoffs with CP. And then they compounded that by getting nothing back for CP's expiring contract. Sure they dumped salary but they lost a season and I was hoping the Dubs would get a couple of roll players for Poole.

On to the Wiz. I chose, I like it a little, they have decided on tanking and starting over which is at least a direction. And I like Bilal and Bub.

It was a terrible trade for the Wizards and a good one for the Warriors. The pick Golden State gave up is a 2030 pick that's protected 1-20. If it falls within it's protection then it turns into a 2nd round pick.

It was a straight salary dump for the warriors and they missed the playoffs….I don’t consider that good.

You'd rather have a low BBIQ player (Poole) who is owed a little over 30 million per year for 4 years (including this past one)?

I think most people agree that he had a bad season. Getting off his contract was a good move for Golden State. Trading Poole isn't the reason why they missed the playoffs.

[ConSarnit]

Assuming stealing Sam Presti is not an option, I still think the Wizards need to hire a GM and a coach for the long-term.

What they need to focus on is developing a franchise that offers stability from the GM and coach that can then build a development system they can hopefully churn out NBA rotation players from. If I were them, I'd be looking to pluck assistant coaches/front office guys/scouts from teams like San Antonio, Miami, Toronto, or OKC. I'd also make sure to focus on bringing in high-quality NBA vets who could help mentor the younger players they're bound to bring in.

Not that I can fault you for not paying attention to the recent activities of the Wizards but they just hired a new president (Winger, formerly of OKC and the Clippers) and GM (Dawkins, formerly of OKC) last summer. They just hired a new head coach this off-season (O’Keefe, former assistant in LA, OKC and BKN). They signed Valancianus this off-season as a vet. They have basically already done everything you wanted them to.

Yeah I wasn't aware of the FO moves, but if they are not given a good ~7-8 years to get something long-term set up, they'll just be back the cycle of hiring/firing people every couple of years.

Outside of Valanciunas, I don't really see the kind of vet presence I think is needed on the roster. This is a relatively easy fix, but right now the Wizards are basically teeming with guys all looking to make a name for themselves/stay relevant in the league. Compare this to who San Antonio has put around its young guys (Harrison Barnes, Chris Paul, Cedi Osman).

We'll see where they stand ~2-3 years from now.

Leonsis kept Grunfeld as GM for 15 years. The Wiz won 4 playoff series during that time. Hiring and firing people every couple years has never been the Wizards M.O. under Leonsis.

[LakersSoul]

Seems like this franchise is a ghost, there is very few talk about them here in the GB.

How do you fine gentlemen assess the direction this team is going?

What about the Bilal/Sarr/Carrington future core? Could any of them become All-Star caliber down the road?

Johnny Davis has looked like one of the biggest busts in recent memory... is he salvageable as a role player?

Could the front office get any relatively valuable assets for Poole, Kuzma, Valanciunas, Brodgon, Kispert, Bagley, Bey and the other players?

Where do you see this team 5 years from now?

Let's talk about the Wizards, gentlemen.

What I would do?

Fire the GM/President and go get Danny Ainge or Presti or anyone else similar, possibly Hinke. Guys who know how to work picks, draft and trade facilitation.

With that, you can add few good draft/player evaluators and analytics guys then the organization is set.

[mhd]

Seems like this franchise is a ghost, there is very few talk about them here in the GB.

How do you fine gentlemen assess the direction this team is going?

What about the Bilal/Sarr/Carrington future core? Could any of them become All-Star caliber down the road?

Johnny Davis has looked like one of the biggest busts in recent memory... is he salvageable as a role player?

Could the front office get any relatively valuable assets for Poole, Kuzma, Valanciunas, Brodgon, Kispert, Bagley, Bey and the other players?

Where do you see this team 5 years from now?

Let's talk about the Wizards, gentlemen.

What I would do?

Fire the GM/President and go get Danny Ainge or Presti or anyone else similar, possibly Hinke. Guys who know how to work picks, draft and trade facilitation.

With that, you can add few good draft/player evaluators and analytics guys then the organization is set.

That’s what they did one year ago!! Leonsis hired Grunfeld’s number 2 Tommy Shepard who was always capable of weaseling his way out of his own bad decisions (like unloading the Bertans contract for Porzingis). Leonsis finally decided to end the stench of Grunfeld by hiring Michael Winger (with ties to OKC) and Will Dawkins (from OKC) to run the team and fired Sheppard. Every trade the new regime has made has netted at least one future pick.

[LakersSoul]

Seems like this franchise is a ghost, there is very few talk about them here in the GB.

How do you fine gentlemen assess the direction this team is going?

What about the Bilal/Sarr/Carrington future core? Could any of them become All-Star caliber down the road?

Johnny Davis has looked like one of the biggest busts in recent memory... is he salvageable as a role player?

Could the front office get any relatively valuable assets for Poole, Kuzma, Valanciunas, Brodgon, Kispert, Bagley, Bey and the other players?

Where do you see this team 5 years from now?

Let's talk about the Wizards, gentlemen.

What I would do?

Fire the GM/President and go get Danny Ainge or Presti or anyone else similar, possibly Hinke. Guys who know how to work picks, draft and trade facilitation.

With that, you can add few good draft/player evaluators and analytics guys then the organization is set.

That’s what they did one year ago!! Leonsis hired Grunfeld’s number 2 Tommy Shepard who was always capable of weaseling his way out of his own bad decisions (like unloading the Bertans contract for Porzingis). Leonsis finally decided to end the stench of Grunfeld by hiring Michael Winger (with ties to OKC) and Will Dawkins (from OKC) to run the team and fired Sheppard. Every trade the new regime has made has netted at least one future pick.

Better.

Dawkins was VP of BO while Winger was the GM for Clippers during the stretch when I thought they were the best 3-4 year period before the Westy signing and all the mess afterwards.

Not sure if they are ready to be the next Presti, Ainge or Hinke but much better future for sure.

Got to give them min 2-3 years to start selling off bad contracts and adding assets and good picks.

[LakersSoul]

Didn't love their draft, the Poole trade was and continues to be an unmitigated disaster, they should've traded Kuzma when the market for him was hot. D+ so far for the front office, would be a D- if they didn't get a nice haul for Deni Avdija.

Not so sure. Last few moves have been smart!

Not sure about Sarr but:

Traded picks and picked up Keyshawn George.
Traded Deni for Brogdan plus 2 FRPs and SRP.

Then pickup FAs:
Bey 3/20
Valanciunas 3/30

These looks to me some solid moves with good upside for the team.

[Soca]

There future looks very bleak.