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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#1141 » by Micah Prescott » Mon Aug 5, 2024 4:39 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:Jerry and Stephen are acting like profit margins are the bottom line.

You do know that the phrase "bottom line" in business is in fact a reference to profits and revenue right? :lol:

But we're talking about sports, where winning should be the bottom line.

We're also talking about BJJ...so just making sure :lol:
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Post#1142 » by Micah Prescott » Mon Aug 5, 2024 4:41 pm

Profits and winning are usually one in the same anyway, although I will say that maybe the Cowboys are a rare unicorn in that aspect.
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Post#1143 » by QB_Eagles » Mon Aug 5, 2024 4:45 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:Profits and winning are usually one in the same anyway, although I will say that maybe the Cowboys are a rare unicorn in the aspect.

Profit by definition is what an owner does NOT invest back into the team.

Besides, the NFL has a salary cap, so there's also a limit on how much a team can spend outside of that. Like they could build new training facilities every 5 years, but how much good does that do?
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#1144 » by Mr B » Mon Aug 5, 2024 4:47 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:The "Rebuild" talk is nonsense. Dallas has the pieces in place to contend at the moment.

If your plan is to move on from Dak, then trading him prior to the draft made the most sense. Using that extra draft capital to find his replacement. But that time has passed.

Which leads me to believe that both sides are playing hardball currently. But a deal will eventually get worked out between the two.

Letting him get to free agency with no compensation is just bad management. Jerry is too smart for that. :wink:

They can’t trade him. He has a no trade clause and no tag clause in his contract. Make no mistake he’s hitting free agency. I still say he’s going to end up signing for close to $70M when he hits to open market.

Technically, they can trade him, but they won't. :wink:

Jerry got himself in a pickle.

They should've moved him earlier this offseason & gotten a haul of picks. The no trade clause is an easy thing to get around. Russ also had one. There would've been plenty of teams interested. But letting him walk is just extremely poor asset management.

At the end of the day, I still think they get something done.

The only way to get around it is for Dak to approve the trade. Dak and Russ were in two totally different situations. Dak has no incentive to sign a contract right now. He’s going to make much more money by hitting free agency as an unrestricted free agent.
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Post#1145 » by Mr B » Mon Aug 5, 2024 4:51 pm

Mariner wrote:Something that we all have to understand.
Dak doesn’t just want to be the highest paid player. He wants to shatter it. While it is his right,he should take some responsibility for the contract not getting done.

Exactly, that’s why I’ve been saying he will likely sign for close to $70M. All he needs is a couple of teams bidding for him. He has no incentive to sign right now. His plan is to hit free agency and shatter the record for highest paid player ever.
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Post#1146 » by Mr B » Mon Aug 5, 2024 4:53 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:Profits and winning are usually one in the same anyway, although I will say that maybe the Cowboys are a rare unicorn in that aspect.

Profits and winning do not always go hand in hand. The Cowboys have profited more than any NFL team for almost 3 decades without winning anything significant.
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Post#1147 » by Micah Prescott » Mon Aug 5, 2024 4:55 pm

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Micah Prescott wrote:Profits and winning are usually one in the same anyway, although I will say that maybe the Cowboys are a rare unicorn in that aspect.

Profits and winning do not always go hand in hand. The Cowboys have profited more than any NFL team for almost 3 decades without winning anything significant.

Yeah that's why I said I think the Cowboy's are a rare unicorn with that. They make most profit in the NFL no matter what they do.

Now that said, if they won a ring? It would certainly equate to even more profit. So the two would still go hand-in-hand
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Post#1148 » by bluejerseyjinx » Fri Aug 16, 2024 4:08 pm

Apparently Talks have picked up with numb nuts again. Jerry looking to set back his franchise another 4-5 years. :crazy: :banghead: :ouch: :giveup:
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Post#1149 » by azcatz11 » Fri Aug 16, 2024 4:16 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:Apparently Talks have picked up with numb nuts again. Jerry looking to set back his franchise another 4-5 years. :crazy: :banghead: :ouch: :giveup:


Sounds like you have a personal issue with Jerry Jones.

I wonder why.... :D
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Post#1150 » by bluejerseyjinx » Fri Aug 16, 2024 4:22 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:Apparently Talks have picked up with numb nuts again. Jerry looking to set back his franchise another 4-5 years. :crazy: :banghead: :ouch: :giveup:


Sounds like you have a personal issue with Jerry Jones.

I wonder why.... :D

I wish I could go back 20 years and bring back all the posts from ESPN and Sports Hoopla forums days when we were all saying about Jerry the GM back then. It would sound like a broken record however.
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Post#1151 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:00 pm

Dak looked and seemed very upset and rattled in his last press conference.
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Post#1152 » by QB_Eagles » Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:13 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:Dak looked and seemed very upset and rattled in his last press conference.

He's not even clutch at press conferences?
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Post#1153 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:16 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:Dak looked and seemed very upset and rattled in his last press conference.

He's not even clutch at press conferences?

Just more evidence he can't handle the pressure of being a Dallas Cowboy QB. :nod:
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Post#1154 » by Mr B » Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:28 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:Dak looked and seemed very upset and rattled in his last press conference.

He's not even clutch at press conferences?

I think he sees the writing on the wall that Jerry is ready to let him walk. I also think the Cowboys are low balling him and he’s upset because he wants to remain the QB of the Cowboys but Jerry doesn’t want to pay a QB top 2 money when he’s shown he folds in the playoffs. Dak knows he’s going to be playing for the Giants, Steelers, Raiders or Seahawks next year.

Those are great teams with great legacies but he goes from being a lifelong QB of the Dallas Cowboys to being a journeyman QB. Instead of playing his entire career with the Cowboys and reaping the benefits of that in his post playing career he’s likely going to be Kirk Cousins. Cousins is an above average QB but is a journeyman who’s never won anything (expect contract negotiations). No one is going to give a crap about Cousins once he’s done playing and he will drift off into obscurity. Dak would rather be Romo. Same playing career except Romo retired as QB of the Cowboys. His legacy is intact and he got the #1 broadcasting job (other than the other former Cowboys QB Troy Aikman).

Dak wants to be Romo and not Cousins. That’s why he looked sad at his last press conference.
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#1155 » by QB_Eagles » Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:50 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:Dak looked and seemed very upset and rattled in his last press conference.

He's not even clutch at press conferences?

I think he sees the writing on the wall that Jerry is ready to let him walk. I also think the Cowboys are low balling him and he’s upset because he wants to remain the QB of the Cowboys but Jerry doesn’t want to pay a QB top 2 money when he’s shown he folds in the playoffs. Dak knows he’s going to be playing for the Giants, Steelers, Raiders or Seahawks next year.

Those are great teams with great legacies but he goes from being a lifelong QB of the Dallas Cowboys to being a journeyman QB. Instead of playing his entire career with the Cowboys and reaping the benefits of that in his post playing career he’s likely going to be Kirk Cousins. Cousins is an above average QB but is a journeyman who’s never won anything (expect contract negotiations). No one is going to give a crap about Cousins once he’s done playing and he will drift off into obscurity. Dak would rather be Romo. Same playing career except Romo retired as QB of the Cowboys. His legacy is intact and he got the #1 broadcasting job (other than the other former Cowboys QB Troy Aikman).

Dak wants to be Romo and not Cousins. That’s why he looked sad at his last press conference.

There are other ex-QB commentators who aren't Cowboys and typically what they have in common is they are fairly charismatic and/or entertaining.

I like Dak as a person but entertaining is not what I have in mind when I think of him.

If all the post-career opportunities are so much greater surely he would factor that into his contract demands.

What boosts legacy even more than being on the Cowboys is a winning a Super Bowl and these two have been mutually exclusive for almost 30 years.
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#1156 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:56 pm

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QB_Eagles wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:Dak looked and seemed very upset and rattled in his last press conference.

He's not even clutch at press conferences?

I think he sees the writing on the wall that Jerry is ready to let him walk. I also think the Cowboys are low balling him and he’s upset because he wants to remain the QB of the Cowboys but Jerry doesn’t want to pay a QB top 2 money when he’s shown he folds in the playoffs. Dak knows he’s going to be playing for the Giants, Steelers, Raiders or Seahawks next year.

Those are great teams with great legacies but he goes from being a lifelong QB of the Dallas Cowboys to being a journeyman QB. Instead of playing his entire career with the Cowboys and reaping the benefits of that in his post playing career he’s likely going to be Kirk Cousins. Cousins is an above average QB but is a journeyman who’s never won anything (expect contract negotiations). No one is going to give a crap about Cousins once he’s done playing and he will drift off into obscurity. Dak would rather be Romo. Same playing career except Romo retired as QB of the Cowboys. His legacy is intact and he got the #1 broadcasting job (other than the other former Cowboys QB Troy Aikman).

Dak wants to be Romo and not Cousins. That’s why he looked sad at his last press conference.

Well Dak comes across as a major hypocrite if that is the case. Just a couple months ago he stated that money isn't the reason he is motivated to play football and be the best. His lack of action speaks otherwise since making that statement. I've known for 3 years Dak is not the guy so more evidence Dak can't handle the pressure of the bright lights is no surprise to me.
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#1157 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:03 pm

QB_Eagles wrote:
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QB_Eagles wrote:He's not even clutch at press conferences?

I think he sees the writing on the wall that Jerry is ready to let him walk. I also think the Cowboys are low balling him and he’s upset because he wants to remain the QB of the Cowboys but Jerry doesn’t want to pay a QB top 2 money when he’s shown he folds in the playoffs. Dak knows he’s going to be playing for the Giants, Steelers, Raiders or Seahawks next year.

Those are great teams with great legacies but he goes from being a lifelong QB of the Dallas Cowboys to being a journeyman QB. Instead of playing his entire career with the Cowboys and reaping the benefits of that in his post playing career he’s likely going to be Kirk Cousins. Cousins is an above average QB but is a journeyman who’s never won anything (expect contract negotiations). No one is going to give a crap about Cousins once he’s done playing and he will drift off into obscurity. Dak would rather be Romo. Same playing career except Romo retired as QB of the Cowboys. His legacy is intact and he got the #1 broadcasting job (other than the other former Cowboys QB Troy Aikman).

Dak wants to be Romo and not Cousins. That’s why he looked sad at his last press conference.

There are other ex-QB commentators who aren't Cowboys and typically what they have in common is they are fairly charismatic and/or entertaining.

I like Dak as a person but entertaining is not what I have in mind when I think of him.

If all the post-career opportunities are so much greater surely he would factor that into his contract demands.

What boosts legacy even more than being on the Cowboys is a winning a Super Bowl and these two have been mutually exclusive for almost 30 years.

Playoff advancement is and has always been the benchmark of pro sports.
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#1158 » by Cactus Jack » Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:05 pm

Mr B wrote:Dak knows he’s going to be playing for the Giants, Steelers, Raiders or Seahawks next year.

I'm telling ya, it ain't happening. They're rolling with Geno. He's going to have a career year in this new scheme. You can cross them off your destination list.

I see him ultimately staying in Dallas. But teams like the Raiders & Steelers would make the most sense if he does hit free agency.
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#1159 » by Cactus Jack » Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:25 pm

Mr B wrote:Dak wants to be Romo and not Cousins. That’s why he looked sad at his last press conference.

He's sad, because he wants to get paid. He'd play on Jupiter (like most) if he was rewarded financially. I think the whole Cowboy legacy thing gets overblown. He wants to set the market.
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#1160 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:31 pm

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Mr B wrote:Dak wants to be Romo and not Cousins. That’s why he looked sad at his last press conference.

He's sad, because he wants to get paid. He'd play on Jupiter (like most) if he was rewarded financially. I think the whole Cowboy legacy thing gets overblown. He wants to set the market.

What legacy are you referring to? Haven't seen any in 29 years.

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