Utah Jazz roster business

[Denizfeital]

Even if it came from above, there's more adequate ways to lose games than to just let everybody play no D, especially young and a bit cocky guys like KG.

What would be an adequate way to lose?

They were planning to lose, and they did. Mission accomplished. This roster was not going anywhere, anyway.

[HadAnEffectHere]

Even if it came from above, there's more adequate ways to lose games than to just let everybody play no D, especially young and a bit cocky guys like KG.

What would be an adequate way to lose?

They were planning to lose, and they did. Mission accomplished. This roster was not going anywhere, anyway.

The best way to lose games would have been to trade more of their good players, but they have entered a really bad zone of trying to tank with a fairly competent roster and a bunch of young guys with motivation issues.

So yes, the Jazz have to lose by telling their players to not play hard and by faking injuries. But this is extremely bad.

Will Hardy has no real sense of self-preservation and his ability to get jobs in the future if he thinks it's a good idea to tell players not to play hard.

[Denizfeital]

Even if it came from above, there's more adequate ways to lose games than to just let everybody play no D, especially young and a bit cocky guys like KG.

What would be an adequate way to lose?

They were planning to lose, and they did. Mission accomplished. This roster was not going anywhere, anyway.

The best way to lose games would have been to trade more of their good players, but they have entered a really bad zone of trying to tank with a fairly competent roster and a bunch of young guys with motivation issues.

So yes, the Jazz have to lose by telling their players to not play hard and by faking injuries. But this is extremely bad.

Will Hardy has no real sense of self-preservation and his ability to get jobs in the future if he thinks it's a good idea to tell players not to play hard.

I highly doubt Will Hardy has ever told players not to play hard. I respect your opinion though.

[jazzvintage]

Of course Hardy did not tell players to not play hard.
He just allowed guys to play no D at all.
It's that or he's just a terrible defensive coach, individually and collectively.

[FJS]

Frankly it's going to be a devastating season as fan. Last time we were in this situation we had Hayward growing, and young Favors, Gobert, Burks and even Kanter... and I think this bunch of players are better than we have today (talking about young core)

[SoCalJazzFan]

Yeah, today’s young core is probably not as good as that of yesteryear. However, there is a real chance of getting a Paul George, Kirelnko/Hayward hybrid, Ant or tall CP3 next summer with a top 5 pick. Combine that player with Markk and hopefully a couple of the young guys who pan out and perhaps another franchise altering player in 2026 and that could make a very good team in the future. That’s the hope at least!

[Inigo Montoya]

Max Abmas Signs With Jazz
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/277272/Max-Abmas-Signs-With-Jazz

Not that I think he'll get to play a lot but do we really need another small PG, or another PG at all? Sexton, Mills, Collier and now Abmas, and of course George who'll have the ball in his hands a lot. Don't see the point of this move. Reinforce the tank?

[FJS]

His name is cool... but frankly I didn't know he existed.

[babyjax13]

I assume it is an exhibit 10?

[Inigo Montoya]

I assume it is an exhibit 10?

I don't know but I don't think so. Usually the news articles mention when it's a 10-day and even on hoopshype he is listed as a 'normal' player.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/UTA/2025.html

[babyjax13]

I assume it is an exhibit 10?

I don't know but I don't think so. Usually the news articles mention when it's a 10-day and even on hoopshype he is listed as a 'normal' player.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/UTA/2025.html

I would hope if we are signing our 10th guard it means a trade is coming, but my lack of confidence in Danny Ainge really hasn't been dispelled by the Gobert and Mitchell trades.

[Inigo Montoya]

I assume it is an exhibit 10?

I don't know but I don't think so. Usually the news articles mention when it's a 10-day and even on hoopshype he is listed as a 'normal' player.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/UTA/2025.html

I would hope if we are signing our 10th guard it means a trade is coming, but my lack of confidence in Danny Ainge really hasn't been dispelled by the Gobert and Mitchell trades.

I would understand if some of Ainge's moves since the Mitchell and Gobert trades had caused a lack of confidence but both Gobert and Mitchell trades were quite good from a value standpoint, not to mention that team was going no where and was depleted of assets and lacked the means to improve, so I don't know why those trades would cause a lack of confidence in Ainge. When they happened they where considered a highway robbery.

[Inigo Montoya]

On the other hand, I count 19 players (17 if we exclude two-way contracts) and also Babacar Sané on the roster so it's very possible that Abmas is indeed on a 10-day. Basically the Jazz have 15 guaranteed players on the roster, 2 two-way contracts and then Sane + Abmas.

[babyjax13]

I don't know but I don't think so. Usually the news articles mention when it's a 10-day and even on hoopshype he is listed as a 'normal' player.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/UTA/2025.html

I would hope if we are signing our 10th guard it means a trade is coming, but my lack of confidence in Danny Ainge really hasn't been dispelled by the Gobert and Mitchell trades.

I would understand if some of Ainge's moves since the Mitchell and Gobert trades had caused a lack of confidence but both Gobert and Mitchell trades were quite good from a value standpoint, not to mention that team was going no where and was depleted of assets and lacked the means to improve, so I don't know why those trades would cause a lack of confidence in Ainge. When they happened they where considered a highway robbery.

I didn't consider them highway robbery. People were making jokes on the trades and transactions board when I said Gobert was worth about 5 1sts in value, then it happened. I think Ainge does something that works with star players - he sets a high price he is unwilling to move off of - but it seems like he does it for everyone, and he is always looking to grab players with poor current value that he thinks have upside. The lack of flexibility in trading role-players, and the urge to use cap on bad contracts (THT/Collins), plus absolutely no consideration for building a coherent team, has resulted in a huge roster imbalance.

[Inigo Montoya]

Gobert is not worth 5 1sts imho. Not now, not then.

[ForeverRDjazz]

Gobert is not worth 5 1sts imho. Not now, not then.

If you are talking 5 top ten picks. Hell no he's not worth it. Now you say 5 late first round picks in the late twenties? Yeah think he's worth it. Which most people would say that's were those picks will fall. Leading to other teams loading up in hopes of winning a championship. If say Cavs and wolves fall little short they have free agents they can sign to help put them over the top and also lowers the value of our picks? Risky for both sides but I don't think jazz staying pat was enough to get out of the west with DM and RG. Hoping our youth can learn quick but yet lose enough to land top 3 pick this year.

[babyjax13]

Gobert is not worth 5 1sts imho. Not now, not then.

He was a top 10-15 player, I think he was easily worth that. Three years later, probably not.