Spurs/Trail Blazers/Pelicans

[Chinook]

Even the FNT concluded Wemby is better at the five. It's not a compromise that he play there. And I do wish folks would stop trying to find ways to trade Keldon Johnson. He plays an important role on the team as sixth man and swing-forward. It's not something that can just be sorted out later.

Deal is dead on arrival.

Also the idea of the Pelicans trading Ingram for McCollum 2.0 is almost impressive in how much it doesn't address their needs.

I understand liking your team's players, but the reality is that he didn't have a good season, he's no longer on a rookie contract, and the Spurs shopped him this summer. So proclaiming proposed trades DOA because you personally wouldn't trade him doesn't really reflect reality.

The Spurs didn't shop him this summer. Some random guy on Twitter said that, and folks took him as a source. Then because nothing happened, it fed into your confirmation bias so you didnt question it.

Johnson not going to be traded away no matter how much you think he should be treated as a negative contract. He'd only be traded as (buoyant) ballast for something. This deal is DOA because paying a max salary to Ayton so Wemby can play out of position isn't a positive return.

Yes, any trade that involves moving Johnson should include replacing his role. Not understanding that isn't being objective. It's just having no idea what the roster looks like.

[jbk1234]

Even the FNT concluded Wemby is better at the five. It's not a compromise that he play there. And I do wish folks would stop trying to find ways to trade Keldon Johnson. He plays an important role on the team as sixth man and swing-forward. It's not something that can just be sorted out later.

Deal is dead on arrival.

Also the idea of the Pelicans trading Ingram for McCollum 2.0 is almost impressive in how much it doesn't address their needs.

I understand liking your team's players, but the reality is that he didn't have a good season, he's no longer on a rookie contract, and the Spurs shopped him this summer. So proclaiming proposed trades DOA because you personally wouldn't trade him doesn't really reflect reality.

The Spurs didn't shop him this summer. Some random guy on Twitter said that, and folks took him as a source. Then because nothing happened, it fed into your confirmation bias so you didnt question it.

Johnson not going to be traded away no matter how much you think he should be treated as a negative contract. He'd only be traded as (buoyant) ballast for something. This deal is DOA because paying a max salary to Ayton so Wemby can play out of position isn't a positive return.

Yes, any trade that involves moving Johnson should include replacing his role. Not understanding that isn't being objective. It's just having no idea what the roster looks like.

It wasn't just one guy on Twitter.

[wemby]

I understand liking your team's players, but the reality is that he didn't have a good season, he's no longer on a rookie contract, and the Spurs shopped him this summer. So proclaiming proposed trades DOA because you personally wouldn't trade him doesn't really reflect reality.

The Spurs didn't shop him this summer. Some random guy on Twitter said that, and folks took him as a source. Then because nothing happened, it fed into your confirmation bias so you didnt question it.

Johnson not going to be traded away no matter how much you think he should be treated as a negative contract. He'd only be traded as (buoyant) ballast for something. This deal is DOA because paying a max salary to Ayton so Wemby can play out of position isn't a positive return.

Yes, any trade that involves moving Johnson should include replacing his role. Not understanding that isn't being objective. It's just having no idea what the roster looks like.

It wasn't just one guy on Twitter.

It was 2 guys on twitter then?
Care to point to your source?

[jbk1234]

The Spurs didn't shop him this summer. Some random guy on Twitter said that, and folks took him as a source. Then because nothing happened, it fed into your confirmation bias so you didnt question it.

Johnson not going to be traded away no matter how much you think he should be treated as a negative contract. He'd only be traded as (buoyant) ballast for something. This deal is DOA because paying a max salary to Ayton so Wemby can play out of position isn't a positive return.

Yes, any trade that involves moving Johnson should include replacing his role. Not understanding that isn't being objective. It's just having no idea what the roster looks like.

It wasn't just one guy on Twitter.

It was 2 guys on twitter then?
Care to point to your source?

I mean I could, or you could just Google Keldon Johnson rumors.

[Chinook]

I understand liking your team's players, but the reality is that he didn't have a good season, he's no longer on a rookie contract, and the Spurs shopped him this summer. So proclaiming proposed trades DOA because you personally wouldn't trade him doesn't really reflect reality.

The Spurs didn't shop him this summer. Some random guy on Twitter said that, and folks took him as a source. Then because nothing happened, it fed into your confirmation bias so you didnt question it.

Johnson not going to be traded away no matter how much you think he should be treated as a negative contract. He'd only be traded as (buoyant) ballast for something. This deal is DOA because paying a max salary to Ayton so Wemby can play out of position isn't a positive return.

Yes, any trade that involves moving Johnson should include replacing his role. Not understanding that isn't being objective. It's just having no idea what the roster looks like.

It wasn't just one guy on Twitter.

It was a guy with like 23 followers. People saw him wearing a suit and assumed he must be like a local reporter or something. But he was just a guy who put out a lot of rumors to hope something stuck.

Now that doesn't mean the Spurs never discussed trading him. I hope they looked into ways of improving their team that included trading most of their players. But the idea that they tried to move him but didn't get interest only serves to justify a low opinion of Johnson. It's confirmation bias. Keldon's not untouchable, but he's also not the first guy up to trade for redundant pieces to make another team's math check out, and that's the role he's assigned here.

[jbk1234]

Even the FNT concluded Wemby is better at the five. It's not a compromise that he play there. And I do wish folks would stop trying to find ways to trade Keldon Johnson. He plays an important role on the team as sixth man and swing-forward. It's not something that can just be sorted out later.

Deal is dead on arrival.

Also the idea of the Pelicans trading Ingram for McCollum 2.0 is almost impressive in how much it doesn't address their needs.

I understand liking your team's players, but the reality is that he didn't have a good season, he's no longer on a rookie contract, and the Spurs shopped him this summer. So proclaiming proposed trades DOA because you personally wouldn't trade him doesn't really reflect reality.

The Spurs didn't shop him this summer. Some random guy on Twitter said that, and folks took him as a source. Then because nothing happened, it fed into your confirmation bias so you didnt question it.

Johnson not going to be traded away no matter how much you think he should be treated as a negative contract. He'd only be traded as (buoyant) ballast for something. This deal is DOA because paying a max salary to Ayton so Wemby can play out of position isn't a positive return.

Yes, any trade that involves moving Johnson should include replacing his role. Not understanding that isn't being objective. It's just having no idea what the roster looks like.

I'm not on Twitter, it wasn't one guy on Twitter, and aside from provide you link to a Google results search for Keldon Johnson trade, or rumors, I'm not sure what else there is to do or say. Confirmation bias works both ways.

[Chinook]

I understand liking your team's players, but the reality is that he didn't have a good season, he's no longer on a rookie contract, and the Spurs shopped him this summer. So proclaiming proposed trades DOA because you personally wouldn't trade him doesn't really reflect reality.

The Spurs didn't shop him this summer. Some random guy on Twitter said that, and folks took him as a source. Then because nothing happened, it fed into your confirmation bias so you didnt question it.

Johnson not going to be traded away no matter how much you think he should be treated as a negative contract. He'd only be traded as (buoyant) ballast for something. This deal is DOA because paying a max salary to Ayton so Wemby can play out of position isn't a positive return.

Yes, any trade that involves moving Johnson should include replacing his role. Not understanding that isn't being objective. It's just having no idea what the roster looks like.

I'm not on Twitter, it wasn't one guy on Twitter, and aside from provide you link to a Google results search for Keldon Johnson trade, or rumors, I'm not sure what else there is to do or say. Confirmation bias works both ways.

Someone using a guy's Tweet to write a speculative article doesn't make it a new source. Johnson being traded "made sense" to people, so their bar for evidence was pretty low. Nobody knew who the Tweeter was and just assumed knew what he was talking about and ran with it. It happens all the time.

[wemby]

It wasn't just one guy on Twitter.

It was 2 guys on twitter then?
Care to point to your source?

I mean I could, or you could just Google Keldon Johnson rumors.

Actually you should have taken that as a hint that I already did that, and an invitation for you to point the one you give credence to amidst what I consider to be a sea of hot garbage.