2024 Trade Rumors

[DanishLakerFan]

Laker fan here. I come in peace.

Cant figure out if Utah are trying to tank or not. What would it take to get guys like Kessler and/or Collin Sexton? And are they even on the market?

Both are on the market, but Ainge is unhappy with the offers for both and is hoping their trade value improves in season. I would guess the Jazz want the 2031 Suns first for Kessler and two firsts (or one really good first) for Sexton.

How about John Collins?

[HadAnEffectHere]

Laker fan here. I come in peace.

Cant figure out if Utah are trying to tank or not. What would it take to get guys like Kessler and/or Collin Sexton? And are they even on the market?

Both are on the market, but Ainge is unhappy with the offers for both and is hoping their trade value improves in season. I would guess the Jazz want the 2031 Suns first for Kessler and two firsts (or one really good first) for Sexton.

How about John Collins?

He is probably available for an expiring contract, but no one wants him. Same for Jordan Clarkson.

[Hoops Addict]

Internet rumor- Clarkson for Okoro.

Seems reasonable.....close in value for both players.

[babyjax13]

Internet rumor- Clarkson for Okoro.

Seems reasonable.....close in value for both players.

It's okay if Clevelands only goal is to preserve the salary. Can't imagine Clarkson is a huge asset for them.

[mg]

Internet rumor- Clarkson for Okoro.

Seems reasonable.....close in value for both players.

Meh. Okoro apparently wants a multi year deal that starts at or above his QO. Not sure he's really worth it as his only real skill is defending guards as he's too small to defend wings with any size. He doesn't rebound. He doesn't shoot unless he's wide open. He doesn't have a handle. I might prefer to give the minutes to young guys such as Cody and Brice. Ironically one of the few times Okoro looked good for an extended period was during his rookie year when the Cavs had him and Sexton playing together. Okoro can cause havoc in a fast paced system but he cannot play half court or in any kind of 5 out system.

CLE doesn't need Clarkson especially with the glut of guards on their roster. I suppose he does preserve the asset if they can't come to an agreement with Okoro.

[babyjax13]

Okoro resigned.

I think Clarkson is going to be a Jazz lifer, if only because no one wants him. I don't really mind that because he's pretty likeable and we aren't trying to win. Even if his shot selection and efficiency are bad, he is a bit of a pressure-release for the team and it seems like he's everyone's favorite teammate, so I suspect he's great in the lockerroom.

[Inigo Montoya]

I'm less concerned about Okoro and more concerned about the Kessler trade rumors.

[Daddy 801]

Haven’t posted in years. Been busy with my son getting older and being a coach, bought/opened a few new business, and just been busy.

Just wanted to say hi to the vets who have been on here for years and kept it going. I still would check in and read comments but didn’t have the time to be actively involved in posting. Wish all you the best and love this site.

I also am excited because most or many of us on the board wanted the Jazz to tank and it’s been frustrating the past few years but I finally feel like this season we are doing the right thing.

Having said that…the trade for KAT kinda blows me away. Hardy wants to play a five out system. And the price paid for KAT seems low to me. I think we could have made a better offer for KAT (Clarkson, Kessler, Collins, and a better pick than NY gave Minnesota….maybe give Min one of their picks back?). And it still would result in a tank season but it would allow Hardy to play a true five out. We would be terrible 1-3 but at least give the young guys more time and have two pieces that we could build off of and a dynamic twin tower three point juggernaut.

Maybe I am off base. But the price paid for KAT was so low I thought Ainge would have pounced on a deal like that. I realize my comments are minus if the numbers even work, or if KATs huge contract would screw us in the next few years. But I would love to finally see a true five out offensive system and KAat and Lauri would be have insane efficiency from 3, and it would give our young new guards space for days to get to the lane and build their confidence.

Just my gut feeling. Maybe it would have been a disaster, but I don’t think so. We just go after a true PG who can distribute and two really good defensive wings who can also semi ball handle and knock down the three. And my gut feeling is we may already have one of those wings in Cody Williams.

Not looking to be right or wrong. But I was wondering if any of you had similar feelings when you saw the KAT trade.

Anyways. Just wanted to say hi everyone. Hope all of you have been living well.

Looking forward to the season and some polite and headed debates.

Hope this thread was the right spot for this conversation (go ahead and move it moderators if it’s not). Let’s get this tank season going baby!!

[Inigo Montoya]

Haven’t posted in years. Been busy with my son getting older and being a coach, bought/opened a few new business, and just been busy.

Just wanted to say hi to the vets who have been on here for years and kept it going. I still would check in and read comments but didn’t have the time to be actively involved in posting. Wish all you the best and love this site.

I also am excited because most or many of us on the board wanted the Jazz to tank and it’s been frustrating the past few years but I finally feel like this season we are doing the right thing.

Having said that…the trade for KAT kinda blows me away. Hardy wants to play a five out system. And the price paid for KAT seems low to me. I think we could have made a better offer for KAT (Clarkson, Kessler, Collins, and a better pick than NY gave Minnesota….maybe give Min one of their picks back?). And it still would result in a tank season but it would allow Hardy to play a true five out. We would be terrible 1-3 but at least give the young guys more time and have two pieces that we could build off of and a dynamic twin tower three point juggernaut.

Maybe I am off base. But the price paid for KAT was so low I thought Ainge would have pounced on a deal like that. I realize my comments are minus if the numbers even work, or if KATs huge contract would screw us in the next few years. But I would love to finally see a true five out offensive system and KAat and Lauri would be have insane efficiency from 3, and it would give our young new guards space for days to get to the lane and build their confidence.

Just my gut feeling. Maybe it would have been a disaster, but I don’t think so. We just go after a true PG who can distribute and two really good defensive wings who can also semi ball handle and knock down the three. And my gut feeling is we may already have one of those wings in Cody Williams.

Not looking to be right or wrong. But I was wondering if any of you had similar feelings when you saw the KAT trade.

Anyways. Just wanted to say hi everyone. Hope all of you have been living well.

Looking forward to the season and some polite and headed debates.

Hope this thread was the right spot for this conversation (go ahead and move it moderators if it’s not). Let’s get this tank season going baby!!

Hi man, good to see you and glad you're doing well.

Regarding KAT, the thought actually never crossed my mind that the Jazz should have gone for him. His contract is really big and the defense with him would be a disaster. If we're going for the tank, no reason to take on a guy with his contract ($49M, $53M, $57M and $61M player option). The Wolves don't need Kessler with Gobert, they got a a cheap microwave scorer in Dilingham so they don't need Clarkson and they don't really need Collins. I think the Jazz need younger talent or a better\equal talent to KAT but in a different position. If Hardy wants to play 5-out he can try it with Markkanen-Hendricks-Williams-George-Sexton with a sprinkle of Collier, Filipowski, Sensabaugh and the rest.

[HadAnEffectHere]

Haven’t posted in years. Been busy with my son getting older and being a coach, bought/opened a few new business, and just been busy.

Just wanted to say hi to the vets who have been on here for years and kept it going. I still would check in and read comments but didn’t have the time to be actively involved in posting. Wish all you the best and love this site.

I also am excited because most or many of us on the board wanted the Jazz to tank and it’s been frustrating the past few years but I finally feel like this season we are doing the right thing.

Having said that…the trade for KAT kinda blows me away. Hardy wants to play a five out system. And the price paid for KAT seems low to me. I think we could have made a better offer for KAT (Clarkson, Kessler, Collins, and a better pick than NY gave Minnesota….maybe give Min one of their picks back?). And it still would result in a tank season but it would allow Hardy to play a true five out. We would be terrible 1-3 but at least give the young guys more time and have two pieces that we could build off of and a dynamic twin tower three point juggernaut.

Maybe I am off base. But the price paid for KAT was so low I thought Ainge would have pounced on a deal like that. I realize my comments are minus if the numbers even work, or if KATs huge contract would screw us in the next few years. But I would love to finally see a true five out offensive system and KAat and Lauri would be have insane efficiency from 3, and it would give our young new guards space for days to get to the lane and build their confidence.

Just my gut feeling. Maybe it would have been a disaster, but I don’t think so. We just go after a true PG who can distribute and two really good defensive wings who can also semi ball handle and knock down the three. And my gut feeling is we may already have one of those wings in Cody Williams.

Not looking to be right or wrong. But I was wondering if any of you had similar feelings when you saw the KAT trade.

Anyways. Just wanted to say hi everyone. Hope all of you have been living well.

Looking forward to the season and some polite and headed debates.

Hope this thread was the right spot for this conversation (go ahead and move it moderators if it’s not). Let’s get this tank season going baby!!

The Jazz aren't going to go very far into the tax and you have to go far into the tax to contend with KAT and Markkanen as max guys (with KAT at the full 35% max).

This makes their approach far more baffling in general. They want to get stars while not giving up many picks and not spending much money and it's just not going to happen...

[SoCalJazzFan]

Going after KAT never entered my mind either. The 5 out would have been interesting offensively, but the defense would remain really bad.

Locke did a podcast recently about the best defensive teams and teams that made a jump and a common thread was having a rim protector. I'm not sure KAT and Markk get you that championship contending team. Championship teams are top offensively and at least average defensively, typically. Lacking a rim protector would probably put us in the bottom defensively. I like the potential that several of the top draftees next summer have of being a franchise player, but having KAT would have probably taken us out of the running for them.

It would not surprise me at all if after a successful 2025 draft, the Jazz attempt "big game hunting" again and are willing to give up some young players and future picks for stars to pair with Markk, whoever rises from the young players this year and that new top 5 draft pick. The expiring contracts of both JCs could potentially still be available to use in such a move.

[Daddy 801]

I guess my thought was what NY gave up for KAT was so cheap we could easily have beaten the offer. And I agree KAT and Lauri would not be good defensively, but I do think KAT has somewhat improved. But we would have had possibly the two best 3 point shooting big men in the league. The offense would/could have possibly been the best in the league if you get a guard who can get to the rim at will. No one could sag off the corners at all with KAT and Lauri at the other corner.

And I just assumed without looking if we offloaded Clarkson and a few other guys who aren’t in our long term plan the cost of KAT and Lauri wouldn’t be so bad because we have so many rookie scale contracts. And I think we easily could have been a bad team this year if we just ran all our young guys the whole season and got rid of vets.

And then the team would have to go get two very long and athletic wingmen who can at least bring up the defense and a true athletic pure PG who can get to the rim and pass to the corners when people are dumb enough to leave KAT or Lauri.

Anyways…it’s all irrelevant. But Ainge is an opportunistic GM and it surprised me he didn’t jump on this. Then again, he may have thought this is a great chance our Wolves picks will be better now. That team is one injury to Gobert or Ant away from us getting a much, much better draft pick. I don’t see the Wolves being as good as they were last year already.

[SlimShady83]

Yo all... Laker fan. What's the most realistic asking price for Kessler X player + pics, Is Kessler available for trade?

I thought you guys wanted JHS, but hearing different things...

I'd love Sexton/Kessler OR just Kessler.

Are you guys looking to keep Sexton trade for expiring?

If It's both Sexton/Kessler trade, rumor going online a while back, DLO/JHS + 2 pics for Sexton/Kessler, what has changed?

[bkohler]

If those picks are unprotected I think it would get the deal done, that’s probably the hold up imo.

[AingesBurner]

Yo all... Laker fan. What's the most realistic asking price for Kessler X player + pics, Is Kessler available for trade?

I thought you guys wanted JHS, but hearing different things...

I'd love Sexton/Kessler OR just Kessler.

Are you guys looking to keep Sexton trade for expiring?

If It's both Sexton/Kessler trade, rumor going online a while back, DLO/JHS + 2 pics for Sexton/Kessler, what has changed?

That rumor is garbage and those players are worth more than that. I’d want Knecht, 27 unprotected, 28 swap, 29 unprotected, and a 30 swap. Maybe more. Since it’s only 1 pick, 2 swaps, and unprotecting 27.

[AingesBurner]

If those picks are unprotected I think it would get the deal done, that’s probably the hold up imo.

They are including 27 as part of the pick package. I’d want more.

[bkohler]

If those picks are unprotected I think it would get the deal done, that’s probably the hold up imo.

They are including 27 as part of the pick package. I’d want more.

Yeah that’s not 2 picks. If it was 29/31 unprotected it would be done.

[babyjax13]

Yo all... Laker fan. What's the most realistic asking price for Kessler X player + pics, Is Kessler available for trade?

I thought you guys wanted JHS, but hearing different things...

I'd love Sexton/Kessler OR just Kessler.

Are you guys looking to keep Sexton trade for expiring?

If It's both Sexton/Kessler trade, rumor going online a while back, DLO/JHS + 2 pics for Sexton/Kessler, what has changed?

That rumor is garbage and those players are worth more than that. I’d want Knecht, 27 unprotected, 28 swap, 29 unprotected, and a 30 swap. Maybe more. Since it’s only 1 pick, 2 swaps, and unprotecting 27.

Lakers are not going to pay that.

I don't think Kessler is available, but Sexton should be for a protected first. No interest in JHS, look at how many guards we have!

[Daddy 801]

Just curious your guys thoughts about Kessler.

I see him as a proven commodity at this point. I see alt of threads about trades for him and the offers are usually a late first round pick. Why would we trade him for that? Those trade offers seem like a colossally bad idea from my perspective. I would want multiple frp’s or a guaranteed high draft pick this next upcoming year or there is no way I would move forward with a trade. He might be our most important player besides Lauri. He is easily someone we could keep and start for years assuming no injuries.

[Inigo Montoya]

Just curious your guys thoughts about Kessler.

I see him as a proven commodity at this point. I see alt of threads about trades for him and the offers are usually a late first round pick. Why would we trade him for that? Those trade offers seem like a colossally bad idea from my perspective. I would want multiple frp’s or a guaranteed high draft pick this next upcoming year or there is no way I would move forward with a trade. He might be our most important player besides Lauri. He is easily someone we could keep and start for years assuming no injuries.

I agree. I don't get the zeal for trading him. He's probably the best of the Jazz's young players and the only one of them who has proved to be a decent starter at least, and he can anchor a defense. A first round pick or two won't be enough for me to want to trade him unless we're talking about unprotected picks from a team I'd have a high degree of confidence would suck. Either that or in a package for a legit star.