Jared Rhoden Signed to a Camp Deal

[Dalek]

Rhoden was a guy I previously thought would be an okay candidate for Toronto because he was a good-great defender in college. He is a guy who can lock people up and with a 6'11 wingspan he can guard forwards.

It is a camp deal so I think the plan is to get him into the 905 system. He has made improvements on his shot from outside, so he might be a diamond in the rough.

I don't hate the signing at all because he has had a two-way deal before, and played some decent NBA minutes, so he is worth a look.

[DreamTeam09]

Pretty amazing how far the league has come when it comes to end-of-the-bench deals. I have a tough time keeping track of the different types of contracts.

Exhibit-10 = Invite to training camp, will probably get cut, but u get a bonus as an incentive to join the affiliate Gleague team

Two-way deals - Could be up to 2yrs in length, 2way salary contract with bonus on the amount of days spent with the big club, can only play a certain amount of games before has to be transferred to a standard contract. (I think its in the 40s or 50s)

There's also summer deals, were basically u get 2k a week up until they cut you before the szn starts. If healthy, if your're not healthy & get cut they can pay up to 6k total.

10 days

vet min (league covers most if not all if i'm not mistaken)

rookie min

regular cap space

MLE

BAE

rookie max

max deal

super max

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I don't think he can. His time in DET was extremely limited, year 1 on 1.4 3pa he was 25%, year 2 on 1.8 he was 38.7%. Total sample size of 51 3PA, 20 and 31 per year respectively.

In college he was....not good. 24.6%, 33.7%, 30.3%, and 33.6% on 394 total shots. 61/98/122/113 each year respectively. His FG% overall is also quite bad, not exactly sure what this signing is for, other than another "shoot more **** at a wall and hope something sticks", attempt.

He's shot it well in the G-league. If you combine his games in the g-league and w/ the Pistons last year, there is some signs of life on decent-ish volume.

Regardless, it's a 905 signing. Exhibit 10s are just a way to get guys more money given how small g-league contracts are. Makes the league a bit more competitive with Europe to go after the younger guys with some potential to fill out their g-league roster. They still need to put a product on the court for the fans.

lol I don’t know why every prospect signed needs to be young lebron. I can say with a 99% guarantee Masai doesn’t think this guy will ever play for the raptors. The signing is litterally for the 905 as well as having an extra body for camp.

You need to chill on the hyperbole. No one is expecting lebron, but when a shooting guard cant break 40% from the field, it's a fair thing to discuss.

As TFC mentioned, he looked better in the g league, so hopefully he can turn into something. But there is nothing wrong with questioning a guy who averaged 40% from the field in 4 years of college and has done nothing in the NBA.

[youngRAPZ]

He's shot it well in the G-league. If you combine his games in the g-league and w/ the Pistons last year, there is some signs of life on decent-ish volume.

Regardless, it's a 905 signing. Exhibit 10s are just a way to get guys more money given how small g-league contracts are. Makes the league a bit more competitive with Europe to go after the younger guys with some potential to fill out their g-league roster. They still need to put a product on the court for the fans.

lol I don’t know why every prospect signed needs to be young lebron. I can say with a 99% guarantee Masai doesn’t think this guy will ever play for the raptors. The signing is litterally for the 905 as well as having an extra body for camp.

You need to chill on the hyperbole. No one is expecting lebron, but when a shooting guard cant break 40% from the field, it's a fair thing to discuss.

As TFC mentioned, he looked better in the g league, so hopefully he can turn into something. But there is nothing wrong with questioning a guy who averaged 40% from the field in 4 years of college and has done nothing in the NBA.

No there is absolutely nothing wrong with questioning that you’re absolutely right because I actually didn’t mind your comment right up until for some reason you had to throw in a back handed shot at management as if this signing was a hope a prayer that he would some how stick and make the team.

[youngRAPZ]

Hopefully he can surprise. Big guard. Can shoot. Seems slow. Haven’t seen enough of him to really comment though.

I don't think he can. His time in DET was extremely limited, year 1 on 1.4 3pa he was 25%, year 2 on 1.8 he was 38.7%. Total sample size of 51 3PA, 20 and 31 per year respectively.

In college he was....not good. 24.6%, 33.7%, 30.3%, and 33.6% on 394 total shots. 61/98/122/113 each year respectively. His FG% overall is also quite bad, not exactly sure what this signing is for, other than another "shoot more **** at a wall and hope something sticks", attempt.

This was what I found “wrong” in my opinion.

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lol I don’t know why every prospect signed needs to be young lebron. I can say with a 99% guarantee Masai doesn’t think this guy will ever play for the raptors. The signing is litterally for the 905 as well as having an extra body for camp.

You need to chill on the hyperbole. No one is expecting lebron, but when a shooting guard cant break 40% from the field, it's a fair thing to discuss.

As TFC mentioned, he looked better in the g league, so hopefully he can turn into something. But there is nothing wrong with questioning a guy who averaged 40% from the field in 4 years of college and has done nothing in the NBA.

No there is absolutely nothing wrong with questioning that you’re absolutely right because I actually didn’t mind your comment right up until for some reason you had to throw in a back handed shot at management as if this signing was a hope a prayer that he would some how stick and make the team.

That's fair, but it is also accurate. It's what the FO has been doing for the last 7ish years. He is largely expected to play for the 905, which in my defence, I have practically forgotten its existence since nothing noteworthy has come from it since Boucher.

So if it's just to build out the 905 roster, cool I guess? But it kinda renders your comment about him being a prospect moot. Is he a prospect, or is he to fill out the 905 roster? Cause it can't really be both without being a "see what sticks" approach.

[youngRAPZ]

You need to chill on the hyperbole. No one is expecting lebron, but when a shooting guard cant break 40% from the field, it's a fair thing to discuss.

As TFC mentioned, he looked better in the g league, so hopefully he can turn into something. But there is nothing wrong with questioning a guy who averaged 40% from the field in 4 years of college and has done nothing in the NBA.

No there is absolutely nothing wrong with questioning that you’re absolutely right because I actually didn’t mind your comment right up until for some reason you had to throw in a back handed shot at management as if this signing was a hope a prayer that he would some how stick and make the team.

That's fair, but it is also accurate. It's what the FO has been doing for the last 7ish years. He is largely expected to play for the 905, which in my defence, I have practically forgotten its existence since nothing noteworthy has come from it since Boucher.

So if it's just to build out the 905 roster, cool I guess? But it kinda renders your comment about him being a prospect moot. Is he a prospect, or is he to fill out the 905 roster? Cause it can't really be both without being a "see what sticks" approach.

I’m not going to de-rail this thread further but my point about him being a prospect is not moot because what I think you constantly forget is that the NBA is a business. Thus making the gleague apart of that business. In order for our g league team to have better players management offers ex10 contracts. If for some reason one of those players show life then great but to frame it as if they are depending on that happening on a 20th or 21st roster spot is laughable.

He like battle will obviously not make the team they are very clearly signed to be on the 905 so who cares what their percentages are and that they went to college for 4 years and haven’t produced in the nba. They will likely never play a min for the big squad.

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No there is absolutely nothing wrong with questioning that you’re absolutely right because I actually didn’t mind your comment right up until for some reason you had to throw in a back handed shot at management as if this signing was a hope a prayer that he would some how stick and make the team.

That's fair, but it is also accurate. It's what the FO has been doing for the last 7ish years. He is largely expected to play for the 905, which in my defence, I have practically forgotten its existence since nothing noteworthy has come from it since Boucher.

So if it's just to build out the 905 roster, cool I guess? But it kinda renders your comment about him being a prospect moot. Is he a prospect, or is he to fill out the 905 roster? Cause it can't really be both without being a "see what sticks" approach.

I’m not going to de-rail this thread further but my point about him being a prospect is not moot because what I think you constantly forget is that the NBA is a business. Thus making the gleague apart of that business. In order for our g league team to have better players management offers ex10 contracts. If for some reason one of those players show life then great but to frame it as if they are depending on that happening on a 20th or 21st roster spot is laughable.

He like battle will obviously not make the team they are very clearly signed to be on the 905 so who cares what their percentages are and that they went to college for 4 years and haven’t produced in the nba. They will likely never play a min for the big squad.

I'm not disagreeing with any of that, I never said they are depending on him turning into anything. You are manufacturing arguments that don't exist.

I said "I'm not sure what this signing is for, other than seeing what sticks..." TFC said it's primarily for the 905, so that cleared that up, what exactly are you trying to argue? A prospect isn't someone you throw in the g league and if they show anything randomly you bring them up, a prospect is someone you have expectations for and the stint in the g league is a stop gap. Much like Gradey last year.

A person with a reasonable expectation to succeed, and the g league is to hone skills and prepare for the NBA. That, according to you, is not what he would be considered. So he's a g leaguer, not a prospect, hence why I said it is moot.