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Re: Summer Runs and Random Player Sightings 

Post#1281 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Aug 28, 2024 12:16 am

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He's obviously not going at game speed, Scottie wasn't either.

Here's a couple months ago pre-draft when he was going closer to game speed.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IvskmiFeoV4[/youtube]


Never shot it in college. Lots of work for him to even shoot corner 3's. He won't be taking any next season even with game reps.


Nobody is saying he doesn't have a long way to go to prove he is an adequate shooter, only that he wasn't going at game speed in that clip.

I expect him to shoot some threes with the 905.


Game speed makes no difference, not sure why that's even brought up. Very rarely are you getting a guy shooting 3's in his rookie season when he shot none in college. I am talking about an NBA game, not the 905, or ghost workouts, big difference. He won't be shooting them next year. Confidence, reps and improvement on mechanics IMO will help him a lot... it's going to be a challenge.
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Re: Summer Runs and Random Player Sightings 

Post#1282 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Aug 28, 2024 12:26 am

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jP looks like hes in great shape
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Re: Summer Runs and Random Player Sightings 

Post#1283 » by PushDaRock » Wed Aug 28, 2024 12:31 am

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Never shot it in college. Lots of work for him to even shoot corner 3's. He won't be taking any next season even with game reps.


Nobody is saying he doesn't have a long way to go to prove he is an adequate shooter, only that he wasn't going at game speed in that clip.

I expect him to shoot some threes with the 905.


Game speed makes no difference, not sure why that's even brought up. Very rarely are you getting a guy shooting 3's in his rookie season when he shot none in college. I am talking about an NBA game, not the 905, or ghost workouts, big difference. He won't be shooting them next year. Confidence, reps and improvement on mechanics IMO will help him a lot... it's going to be a challenge.


You literally said "very slow" and referenced that clip for why.

I'm not sure what you're arguing even, nobody is disagreeing that it's unlikely he makes or takes many 3's in the NBA this season.
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Re: Summer Runs and Random Player Sightings 

Post#1284 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Aug 28, 2024 12:39 am

PushDaRock wrote:
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PushDaRock wrote:
Nobody is saying he doesn't have a long way to go to prove he is an adequate shooter, only that he wasn't going at game speed in that clip.

I expect him to shoot some threes with the 905.


Game speed makes no difference, not sure why that's even brought up. Very rarely are you getting a guy shooting 3's in his rookie season when he shot none in college. I am talking about an NBA game, not the 905, or ghost workouts, big difference. He won't be shooting them next year. Confidence, reps and improvement on mechanics IMO will help him a lot... it's going to be a challenge.


You literally said "very slow" and referenced that clip for why.

I'm not sure what you're arguing even, nobody is disagreeing that it's unlikely he makes or takes many 3's in the NBA this season.


The mechanics are slow. I've already seen the prior clips you pulled up, that's just his shot, it doesn't make a difference if he's going game speed or not. That plus he never shot them in college. You responded to me saying that the video is not at game speed implying he can still get them off and hit them at the NBA level. I can assure you that won't be the case.
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Re: Summer Runs and Random Player Sightings 

Post#1285 » by PushDaRock » Wed Aug 28, 2024 12:57 am

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PushDaRock wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Game speed makes no difference, not sure why that's even brought up. Very rarely are you getting a guy shooting 3's in his rookie season when he shot none in college. I am talking about an NBA game, not the 905, or ghost workouts, big difference. He won't be shooting them next year. Confidence, reps and improvement on mechanics IMO will help him a lot... it's going to be a challenge.


You literally said "very slow" and referenced that clip for why.

I'm not sure what you're arguing even, nobody is disagreeing that it's unlikely he makes or takes many 3's in the NBA this season.


The mechanics are slow. I've already seen the prior clips you pulled up, that's just his shot, it doesn't make a difference if he's going game speed or not. That plus he never shot them in college. You responded to me saying that the video is not at game speed implying he can still get them off and hit them at the NBA level. I can assure you that won't be the case.


I wasn't implying anything, only pointing out that he wasn't going at game speed.
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Post#1286 » by deck » Wed Aug 28, 2024 1:32 am

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jP looks like hes in great shape


He came into last season with poor condition. Hoping for better this year. He does look to be rather fit in these photos.
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Re: Summer Runs and Random Player Sightings 

Post#1287 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Aug 28, 2024 1:50 am

PushDaRock wrote:
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You literally said "very slow" and referenced that clip for why.

I'm not sure what you're arguing even, nobody is disagreeing that it's unlikely he makes or takes many 3's in the NBA this season.


The mechanics are slow. I've already seen the prior clips you pulled up, that's just his shot, it doesn't make a difference if he's going game speed or not. That plus he never shot them in college. You responded to me saying that the video is not at game speed implying he can still get them off and hit them at the NBA level. I can assure you that won't be the case.


I wasn't implying anything, only pointing out that he wasn't going at game speed.


And like I said, it doesn't matter. The mechanics are slow and he doesn't shoot it.
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Re: Summer Runs and Random Player Sightings 

Post#1288 » by PushDaRock » Wed Aug 28, 2024 1:53 am

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PushDaRock wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
The mechanics are slow. I've already seen the prior clips you pulled up, that's just his shot, it doesn't make a difference if he's going game speed or not. That plus he never shot them in college. You responded to me saying that the video is not at game speed implying he can still get them off and hit them at the NBA level. I can assure you that won't be the case.


I wasn't implying anything, only pointing out that he wasn't going at game speed.


And like I said, it doesn't matter. The mechanics are slow and he doesn't shoot it.


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Re: Summer Runs and Random Player Sightings 

Post#1289 » by Thaddy » Wed Aug 28, 2024 5:49 am

PushDaRock wrote:
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I wasn't implying anything, only pointing out that he wasn't going at game speed.


And like I said, it doesn't matter. The mechanics are slow and he doesn't shoot it.


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He's been drafted to be out small ball five. He likely taking over the role Achiuwa had on the Raptors when he was here.

Mogbo doesn't shoot threes or chuck, he focuses on moving the ball, setting good picks, rolling hard, finding cutters off the short roll, rebounds, gets deflections, finishing around the basket, switching and overwhelming guards. He had great impact stats in college despite not being a shooter or having a typical C body.

I wouldn't say he's a small ball center either. He's the same size as Adebayo.
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Re: Summer Runs and Random Player Sightings 

Post#1290 » by God Squad » Wed Aug 28, 2024 12:23 pm

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Imagine Poeltl comes back with a corner three in his bag. That would be so random.

When he was drafted, I was one of the few homers who thought he'd be able to develop a jumper.

Yeah, I was very wrong.
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Post#1291 » by God Squad » Wed Aug 28, 2024 12:25 pm

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I like a Jakob Fernando C rotation, add in Kelly to stretch & now we have some solid depth. Ino everyone thinks this team is ultra crap, but we have more depth than the teams tanking

We definitely have more depth than the last two seasons, but we're still gonna be crap.
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Re: Summer Runs and Random Player Sightings 

Post#1292 » by God Squad » Wed Aug 28, 2024 12:34 pm

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PushDaRock wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Game speed makes no difference, not sure why that's even brought up. Very rarely are you getting a guy shooting 3's in his rookie season when he shot none in college. I am talking about an NBA game, not the 905, or ghost workouts, big difference. He won't be shooting them next year. Confidence, reps and improvement on mechanics IMO will help him a lot... it's going to be a challenge.


You literally said "very slow" and referenced that clip for why.

I'm not sure what you're arguing even, nobody is disagreeing that it's unlikely he makes or takes many 3's in the NBA this season.


The mechanics are slow. I've already seen the prior clips you pulled up, that's just his shot, it doesn't make a difference if he's going game speed or not. That plus he never shot them in college. You responded to me saying that the video is not at game speed implying he can still get them off and hit them at the NBA level. I can assure you that won't be the case.

That and the fact he's 6'6/6'7. Scottie couldn't shoot either, but he's taller/longer so he can shoot over the defense. We all want Mogbo to play well. I just see some glaring issues that need to be addressed.

I do like the idea that Mogbo in theory should be able to somewhat replicate what we do with Scottie, but for the bench.
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Re: Summer Runs and Random Player Sightings 

Post#1293 » by God Squad » Wed Aug 28, 2024 12:44 pm

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PushDaRock wrote:
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And like I said, it doesn't matter. The mechanics are slow and he doesn't shoot it.


k

He's been drafted to be out small ball five. He likely taking over the role Achiuwa had on the Raptors when he was here.

Mogbo doesn't shoot threes or chuck, he focuses on moving the ball, setting good picks, rolling hard, finding cutters off the short roll, rebounds, gets deflections, finishing around the basket, switching and overwhelming guards. He had great impact stats in college despite not being a shooter or having a typical C body.

I wouldn't say he's a small ball center either. He's the same size as Adebayo.

But Bam's like 2-3 inches taller than Mogbo? But I agree the wingspan and standing reach are nearly identical.
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Re: Summer Runs and Random Player Sightings 

Post#1294 » by Godaddycurse » Wed Aug 28, 2024 1:15 pm

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Thaddy wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
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He's been drafted to be out small ball five. He likely taking over the role Achiuwa had on the Raptors when he was here.

Mogbo doesn't shoot threes or chuck, he focuses on moving the ball, setting good picks, rolling hard, finding cutters off the short roll, rebounds, gets deflections, finishing around the basket, switching and overwhelming guards. He had great impact stats in college despite not being a shooter or having a typical C body.

I wouldn't say he's a small ball center either. He's the same size as Adebayo.

But Bam's like 2-3 inches taller than Mogbo? But I agree the wingspan and standing reach are nearly identical.


Bam weighs like 30 lbs more
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Re: Summer Runs and Random Player Sightings 

Post#1295 » by God Squad » Wed Aug 28, 2024 1:25 pm

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Thaddy wrote:He's been drafted to be out small ball five. He likely taking over the role Achiuwa had on the Raptors when he was here.

Mogbo doesn't shoot threes or chuck, he focuses on moving the ball, setting good picks, rolling hard, finding cutters off the short roll, rebounds, gets deflections, finishing around the basket, switching and overwhelming guards. He had great impact stats in college despite not being a shooter or having a typical C body.

I wouldn't say he's a small ball center either. He's the same size as Adebayo.

But Bam's like 2-3 inches taller than Mogbo? But I agree the wingspan and standing reach are nearly identical.


Bam weighs like 30 lbs more

True, but weight is a variable that can be worked on and changed. You can't change height, wingspan or standing reach. Those are definitive.
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Re: Summer Runs and Random Player Sightings 

Post#1296 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Aug 28, 2024 1:54 pm

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Post#1297 » by God Squad » Wed Aug 28, 2024 2:41 pm

Dick filled out. :eyebrows:
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Re: Summer Runs and Random Player Sightings 

Post#1298 » by manjusaka » Wed Aug 28, 2024 2:44 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Never shot it in college. Lots of work for him to even shoot corner 3's. He won't be taking any next season even with game reps.


Nobody is saying he doesn't have a long way to go to prove he is an adequate shooter, only that he wasn't going at game speed in that clip.

I expect him to shoot some threes with the 905.


Game speed makes no difference, not sure why that's even brought up. Very rarely are you getting a guy shooting 3's in his rookie season when he shot none in college. I am talking about an NBA game, not the 905, or ghost workouts, big difference. He won't be shooting them next year. Confidence, reps and improvement on mechanics IMO will help him a lot... it's going to be a challenge.


We had seen Ben Simmons shooting 3s every summer and we know that story. And we had seen Armoni Brooks, who could shoot it in college and G-League but not NBA, because he got a slow release.

It is good that Mogbo is working on the shot but he has to prove he can shoot it in the NBA.
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Re: Summer Runs and Random Player Sightings 

Post#1299 » by HangTime » Wed Aug 28, 2024 2:57 pm

manjusaka wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
Nobody is saying he doesn't have a long way to go to prove he is an adequate shooter, only that he wasn't going at game speed in that clip.

I expect him to shoot some threes with the 905.


Game speed makes no difference, not sure why that's even brought up. Very rarely are you getting a guy shooting 3's in his rookie season when he shot none in college. I am talking about an NBA game, not the 905, or ghost workouts, big difference. He won't be shooting them next year. Confidence, reps and improvement on mechanics IMO will help him a lot... it's going to be a challenge.


We had seen Ben Simmons shooting 3s every summer and we know that story. And we had seen Armoni Brooks, who could shoot it in college and G-League but not NBA, because he got a slow release.

It is good that Mogbo is working on the shot but he has to prove he can shoot it in the NBA.


But there's a difference between someone that says they can shoot the 3, and is also willing to, vs Simmons who is reluctant to.

You might aswell give him the some 3 point attempts. Most likely the defence will leave him open. If he starts hitting some, then the defence will start to shift.
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Re: Summer Runs and Random Player Sightings 

Post#1300 » by HumbleRen » Wed Aug 28, 2024 3:07 pm

If Mogbo was the same size as Bam, he’d be a top 15 pick.

I have faith in Mogbo but it’s going to be a very hard journey for him to stick in the NBA without a jumpshot.

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