RGM GOAT Debate Thread

[WarriorGM]

Is there a single forum or social media group where this is not the case (other than maybe a Warriors forum)? I feel like every time I see these "only on realGM" type comments they ignore that it's likely the prevalent opinion on every social mesaage board, social media site, or sports media company.

Argumentum ad popularum.

Even then you are seeing the argument here are you not?

But then what do you also see along with it? A number of people pre-emptively jumping in questioning and trying to dismiss the idea. The aim seems to be to stop the discussion before it even starts. You see it here now and it happens even more disruptively in that other forum.

Most people do not hold a strong opinion and just go along with the conventional wisdom or what seems logical. It doesn't seem like a shorter guy could compete with giants so they guess it makes sense that he doesn't. Except that he does.

Curry being the greatest player ever is in the the grand scheme of things a small potatoes issue. In medicine we still have the eating fat makes you fat idea still perpetuating its malign influence. The idea that acidity is the primary cause for ulcers was dominant for years.

Yeah I don't want to get into the debate, I just think the "it is the LeBron forum." Comment is ridiculous. And those types of comments are typically used to make it seem like this is an opinion specific to realGM rather than the whole world.

Uh huh. The LeBron threads going hundreds of pages even in seasons he misses the playoffs in comparison to the threads about players who actually win barely reaching 10 pages if even that tell the real story. It is a self-selecting echo chamber that drives away those that think differently.

[nikster]

Argumentum ad popularum.

Even then you are seeing the argument here are you not?

But then what do you also see along with it? A number of people pre-emptively jumping in questioning and trying to dismiss the idea. The aim seems to be to stop the discussion before it even starts. You see it here now and it happens even more disruptively in that other forum.

Most people do not hold a strong opinion and just go along with the conventional wisdom or what seems logical. It doesn't seem like a shorter guy could compete with giants so they guess it makes sense that he doesn't. Except that he does.

Curry being the greatest player ever is in the the grand scheme of things a small potatoes issue. In medicine we still have the eating fat makes you fat idea still perpetuating its malign influence. The idea that acidity is the primary cause for ulcers was dominant for years.

Yeah I don't want to get into the debate, I just think the "it is the LeBron forum." Comment is ridiculous. And those types of comments are typically used to make it seem like this is an opinion specific to realGM rather than the whole world.

Uh huh. The LeBron threads going hundreds of pages even in seasons he misses the playoffs in comparison to the threads about players who actually win barely reaching 10 pages if even that tell the real story. It is a self-selecting echo chamber that drives away those that think differently.

And is that different from any other forum/social media site or is that somehow unique to RealGM?

[WarriorGM]

Yeah I don't want to get into the debate, I just think the "it is the LeBron forum." Comment is ridiculous. And those types of comments are typically used to make it seem like this is an opinion specific to realGM rather than the whole world.

Uh huh. The LeBron threads going hundreds of pages even in seasons he misses the playoffs in comparison to the threads about players who actually win barely reaching 10 pages if even that tell the real story. It is a self-selecting echo chamber that drives away those that think differently.

And is that different from any other forum/social media site or is that somehow unique to RealGM?

The hundreds of pages on LeBron threads? LeBron being picked ahead of Jordan? It's a PC board thing.

[nikster]

Uh huh. The LeBron threads going hundreds of pages even in seasons he misses the playoffs in comparison to the threads about players who actually win barely reaching 10 pages if even that tell the real story. It is a self-selecting echo chamber that drives away those that think differently.

And is that different from any other forum/social media site or is that somehow unique to RealGM?

The hundreds of pages on LeBron threads? LeBron being picked ahead of Jordan? It's a PC board thing.

"You will not see serious arguments made on Curry's behalf" is true of any board/forum/site that exists

[WarriorGM]

And is that different from any other forum/social media site or is that somehow unique to RealGM?

The hundreds of pages on LeBron threads? LeBron being picked ahead of Jordan? It's a PC board thing.

"You will not see serious arguments made on Curry's behalf" is true of any board/forum/site that exists

Which if true if you think about it is a total anomaly and shows something truly weird at work.

Would make for an excellent thesis subject on mass media and its influence on society.

[UglyBugBall]

Let's imagine MJ gets drafted the same year LeBron does. Which one of these players would end up higher on the all time list?

[CBS7]

they team up and win 20 rings

[1993Playoffs]

Lebron is #1 in real life and in this hypothetical. It doesn’t matter either way

[JayMKE]

Lebron would wanted to be on MJ’s team for sure

[ChiTownHero1992]

MJ is the best player so i'll go that way but it also partially has to matter what teams each are drafted to

[bledredwine]

Same story. You and the majority of us know the answer.

And to the person who's tempted to do the predictable quoting of my above sentence to state the wrong answer in an effort to be witty, well, you're wrong.

Let's just say this. Lebron came in at the perfect time, so that as he hit his prime, the rest of the few ATG superstars in the league were on the tail end of their career. For a stretch, were no superstars in the Eastern conference aside from Paul George and briefly, Derrick Rose and he even had more superstars on his own team than the entire conference. Even in the finals he won, he played a very old Spurs starting line up. Put him in a different era and he's not going to be able to gift himself championships in free agency.

[nikster]

The hundreds of pages on LeBron threads? LeBron being picked ahead of Jordan? It's a PC board thing.

"You will not see serious arguments made on Curry's behalf" is true of any board/forum/site that exists

Which if true if you think about it is a total anomaly and shows something truly weird at work.

Would make for an excellent thesis subject on mass media and its influence on society.

I think I know a flat earther making a similar thesis

[MacGill]

In any draft, MJ, to me, will always better the better player. Even 100 years from now.

[WarriorGM]

"You will not see serious arguments made on Curry's behalf" is true of any board/forum/site that exists

Which if true if you think about it is a total anomaly and shows something truly weird at work.

Would make for an excellent thesis subject on mass media and its influence on society.

I think I know a flat earther making a similar thesis

If you associate with flat earthers or not I'm not one to judge.

[Bornstellar]

Depends on where he's drafted. Does Detroit pick him instead of Darko? Does he go to Denver or Miami? Way too many variables

MJ not being around to smack teams around in the 90s and for Kobe (and many others of that time) to emulate completely changes the landscape of the 2000s imo. Really hard question to give any real answer to

[Lalouie]

lebron - 6'8

mj - 6'6

lebron is higher

[oaf54]

MJ's stats would be even better with the faster pace league and rule changes that would help him. I think it would be an even bigger gap than what it is now.

[GSWFan1994]

The difference between a crocodile and an alligator is that one will see you later and the other in a while.

Thanks, I'll be here all week.

[Iwasawitness]

Spoiler:

Same story. You and the majority of us know the answer.

And to the person who's tempted to do the predictable quoting of me to state the wrong answer in an effort to be witty, well, you're wrong.

Let's just say this. Lebron came in at the perfect time, so that as he hit his prime, the rest of the few ATG superstars in the league were on the tail end of their career. Even in the finals he won, he played a very old Spurs starting line up. Put him in a different era and he's not going to be able to gift himself championships in free agency.

At this entire post. The leaps you go through to try to justify your stupid takes are always a joy to see.

Personal Attacks.

[BarbaGrizz]

Are we assuming they go 1st and 3rd like it happened? How would this affect Darko´s legacy?