Packers News, Transactions - 2025 off-season - McManus Signed - 3 Years/$15 million

[MoMM]

If Willis is truly going to be QB2 for week 1 then the decision to keep Clifford over Pratt is even more baffling

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Well, couldn't Pratt simply have said he would prefer to be on Bucs PS? He can choose, right?

From Florida, went to school in Louisiana - not crazy to think he might have preferred to go back closer to home (and/or away from GB winters). More likely to get a chance to play there too. Not saying he will, but I think it's more likely he'd be playing over Mayfield in 3 years than he is over Love.

Also, he could have more chances to be a QB2 there than here. Maybe even FL being a tax-free state could have some impact in the decision.

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[MVP2110]

Well, couldn't Pratt simply have said he would prefer to be on Bucs PS? He can choose, right?

He can but it's been reported that the Packers chose Clifford over Pratt

Should we trust this source? Maybe GB just didn't want to look bad.

Even if you don't want to believe Bill Huber(who has proven to be pretty reliable with these things), I'd have kept Pratt on the 53. Letting a young toolsy QB go doesn't make much sense to me.

Gutey stated he wanted to be more draft and develop with the QB position but then he cuts the guy who he drafted and who could actually be developed for a guy who did worse in the preseason.

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[Treebeard]

FWIW Factoid: yesterday I saw a nugget that Malik Willis and Xavier McKinney were high school teammates

[MickeyDavis]

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I wonder why they're practicing inside. It's going to be around 90 for the game next week in Brazil.

[jimmybones]

If you're banking on a system like the brewers making these guys truly matter on a game to game basis, than you believe the guys making the decisions and doing the coaching know what they're doing...which means you trust their decisions and aren't complaining about fringe guys that likely won't matter.

I like Gutey for sure, but he's not infallible by any means. I get that we're purely talking about depth guys here but the margins can absolutely matter in sports and acting like they don't is a line of thinking I just don't understand.

I agree the margins are important in this sport but it should be noted that these margin guys are only being discussed because the Packers were so deep at those positions that they couldn't beat out the guys ahead of them so really the big complaint seems to be "we had too many good players at those positions and had to cut a few. WTF Gute?"

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Agreed, not only are we deep but deep with young talent. It's a bummer to lose a guy like Dubose but it's not like we kept a washed up vet over him, literally every WR we have has upside.

The special teams dude over Anthony Johnson Jr, I can see that as a little bit of a depth hit but if they really like their top 3 in McKinney, Bullard and Williams, I can see the rationale of keeping a special teams ace over a 4th safety (even factoring in 2 of the 3 being rookies).

[MoMM]

Can we consider that the undrafted streak continues as we signed Narveson?

[Matches Malone]

Even though we lost Dubose, I'm glad they were able to bring back Wayne and Hicks to the PS. I think those are solid WR's to continue developing.
 

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[emunney]

Pratt gone
Welch gone
Johnson Jr gone
Dubose gone
Newman gone
Toure gone
Caleb Jones gone

Packers taking a massive hit on their depth today. I'm annoyed at Gutey's decisions all over again

Claiming Narveson is cool though

Massive what now?

Yeah, not following this one either. We were never going to have 70 players.

[MVP2110]

Pratt gone
Welch gone
Johnson Jr gone
Dubose gone
Newman gone
Toure gone
Caleb Jones gone

Packers taking a massive hit on their depth today. I'm annoyed at Gutey's decisions all over again

Claiming Narveson is cool though

Massive what now?

Yeah, not following this one either. We were never going to have 70 players.

We actually have exactly 70 players once the practice squad fills out. With the new rules allowing for practice squad elevations depth isn't just a 53 man roster thing, it's a 70 man roster thing and we lost a lot of guys that would have been quality depth to have.

If we need to callup a WR Dubose would have been better than Hicks/Wayne

If we need to callup a Safety AJJ would have been better than our current practice squad

I could keep going with Welch, Pratt, and even guys like Newman & Caleb Jones would have been better than an OL like Lecticus Smith

[Treebeard]

A secondary thing with Narveson, he appears to have a big leg. Accuracy is more important, but if their kickoff tactic is to put the ball into the endzone consistently to prevent a runback, he can do it.

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Massive what now?

Yeah, not following this one either. We were never going to have 70 players.

We actually have exactly 70 players once the practice squad fills out. With the new rules allowing for practice squad elevations depth isn't just a 53 man roster thing, it's a 70 man roster thing and we lost a lot of guys that would have been quality depth to have.

If we need to callup a WR Dubose would have been better than Hicks/Wayne

If we need to callup a Safety AJJ would have been better than our current practice squad

I could keep going with Welch, Pratt, and even guys like Newman & Caleb Jones would have been better than an OL like Lecticus Smith

You can't bring up Dubose and Johnson and say they would have been better call ups. They are on other teams 53 roster. They wouldn't have been on the Packers PS.

The Packers must not have thought a 6th off ball lb was as important as depth at other positions. As far as I know Welch is still out there and hasn't been picked up by anyone.

I am guessing the Packers trust Clifford more than Pratt if something happened to Love this season because of he time being in the offense.

People have wanted Newman gone for years and it sounded like Jones was not good in training camp. The Packers have had some success developing lineman so I will trust their opinion on keeping Smith over Jones. Newman was claimed so he wasn't a practice squad option and I wouldn't have wanted him back if he was.

[MVP2110]

Yeah, not following this one either. We were never going to have 70 players.

We actually have exactly 70 players once the practice squad fills out. With the new rules allowing for practice squad elevations depth isn't just a 53 man roster thing, it's a 70 man roster thing and we lost a lot of guys that would have been quality depth to have.

If we need to callup a WR Dubose would have been better than Hicks/Wayne

If we need to callup a Safety AJJ would have been better than our current practice squad

I could keep going with Welch, Pratt, and even guys like Newman & Caleb Jones would have been better than an OL like Lecticus Smith

You can't bring up Dubose and Johnson and say they would have been better call ups. They are on other teams 53 roster. They wouldn't have been on the Packers PS.

The Packers must not have thought a 6th off ball lb was as important as depth at other positions. As far as I know Welch is still out there and hasn't been picked up by anyone.

I am guessing the Packers trust Clifford more than Pratt if something happened to Love this season because of he time being in the offense.

People have wanted Newman gone for years and it sounded like Jones was not good in training camp. The Packers have had some success developing lineman so I will trust their opinion on keeping Smith over Jones. Newman was claimed so he wasn't a practice squad option and I wouldn't have wanted him back if he was.

To be clear I've said multiple times that not all of this was on the Packers. Losing Dubose & Newman for example came down to a numbers crunch and I understand it. It's still a hit on their depth though

Losing Pratt, Welch, & AJJ are what I blame the Packers FO for.

[Profound23]

We have our undrafted rookie now too

[dbrodz7]

I imagine they'll be right about some and wrong about some and not a single one will end up mattering one way or the other.

I don't get this line of thinking tbh. The margins in sports absolutely can matter. The Brewers make a killing in baseball by being better than 99% of teams on the margins. It's not hard to find recent examples of bubble guys/practice squad guys who had to play significant snaps for the Packers(some good, some bad)

We are aware that the GM that’s been dominating on the margins with all the players referenced as examples of how the margins matter is the same GM that made these decisions correct?

[humanrefutation]

Drew Magary came out with his WYTS for the Packers. Always worth a laugh. This year is especially bitter, because of Love, no doubt.

https://defector.com/why-your-team-sucks-2024-green-bay-packers

[Wisky4life]

Well im glad we are only arguing over roster spots 50-53. Other teams still complain about starting lineups.

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[M-C-G]

We actually have exactly 70 players once the practice squad fills out. With the new rules allowing for practice squad elevations depth isn't just a 53 man roster thing, it's a 70 man roster thing and we lost a lot of guys that would have been quality depth to have.

If we need to callup a WR Dubose would have been better than Hicks/Wayne

If we need to callup a Safety AJJ would have been better than our current practice squad

I could keep going with Welch, Pratt, and even guys like Newman & Caleb Jones would have been better than an OL like Lecticus Smith

You can't bring up Dubose and Johnson and say they would have been better call ups. They are on other teams 53 roster. They wouldn't have been on the Packers PS.

The Packers must not have thought a 6th off ball lb was as important as depth at other positions. As far as I know Welch is still out there and hasn't been picked up by anyone.

I am guessing the Packers trust Clifford more than Pratt if something happened to Love this season because of he time being in the offense.

People have wanted Newman gone for years and it sounded like Jones was not good in training camp. The Packers have had some success developing lineman so I will trust their opinion on keeping Smith over Jones. Newman was claimed so he wasn't a practice squad option and I wouldn't have wanted him back if he was.

To be clear I've said multiple times that not all of this was on the Packers. Losing Dubose & Newman for example came down to a numbers crunch and I understand it. It's still a hit on their depth though

Losing Pratt, Welch, & AJJ are what I blame the Packers FO for.

Life is good when your biggest complaints are 3rd string QB, 3rd string LB and 3rd string S

We must have a pretty damn good GM

[emunney]

Massive what now?

Yeah, not following this one either. We were never going to have 70 players.

We actually have exactly 70 players once the practice squad fills out. With the new rules allowing for practice squad elevations depth isn't just a 53 man roster thing, it's a 70 man roster thing and we lost a lot of guys that would have been quality depth to have.

If we need to callup a WR Dubose would have been better than Hicks/Wayne

If we need to callup a Safety AJJ would have been better than our current practice squad

I could keep going with Welch, Pratt, and even guys like Newman & Caleb Jones would have been better than an OL like Lecticus Smith

Lol, shows what I know. Can you still sign any practice squad player leaguewide to your 53 man?