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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#1161 » by Cactus Jack » Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:37 pm

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Mr B wrote:Dak wants to be Romo and not Cousins. That’s why he looked sad at his last press conference.

He's sad, because he wants to get paid. He'd play on Jupiter (like most) if he was rewarded financially. I think the whole Cowboy legacy thing gets overblown. He wants to set the market.

What legacy are you referring to? Haven't seen any in 29 years.

If he played in a bigger market like NY or LA he'd get just as many opportunities if not more off the field. It's completely overblown. Mahomes has no problem getting opportunities in a much smaller market.
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#1162 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:52 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:He's sad, because he wants to get paid. He'd play on Jupiter (like most) if he was rewarded financially. I think the whole Cowboy legacy thing gets overblown. He wants to set the market.

What legacy are you referring to? Haven't seen any in 29 years.

If he played in a bigger market like NY or LA he'd get just as many opportunities if not more off the field. It's completely overblown. Mahomes has no problem getting opportunities in a much smaller market.

Sure, in a bigger market more folks can learn and find that Prescott has a 2-5 playoff record in 9 years and thinks he is deserving to be the highest paid QB in the league. :lol: The New York media alone will eat him up if he goes there. I have 4 friends that are die-hard Giant fans. They all said they would burn all their Giant jerseys and goodies if he ever came to New York.
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#1163 » by Cactus Jack » Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:59 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:If he played in a bigger market like NY or LA he'd get just as many opportunities if not more off the field. It's completely overblown. Mahomes has no problem getting opportunities in a much smaller market.

Sure, in a bigger market more folks can learn and find that Prescott has a 2-5 playoff record in 9 years and thinks he is deserving to be the highest paid QB in the league. :lol: The New York media alone will eat him up if he goes there. I have 4 friends that are die-hard giant fans. They all said they would burn all their Giant jerseys and goodies if he ever came to New York.

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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#1164 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sat Aug 31, 2024 7:22 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:Dak looked and seemed very upset and rattled in his last press conference.

He's not even clutch at press conferences?

I think he sees the writing on the wall that Jerry is ready to let him walk. I also think the Cowboys are low balling him and he’s upset because he wants to remain the QB of the Cowboys but Jerry doesn’t want to pay a QB top 2 money when he’s shown he folds in the playoffs. Dak knows he’s going to be playing for the Giants, Steelers, Raiders or Seahawks next year.

Those are great teams with great legacies but he goes from being a lifelong QB of the Dallas Cowboys to being a journeyman QB. Instead of playing his entire career with the Cowboys and reaping the benefits of that in his post playing career he’s likely going to be Kirk Cousins. Cousins is an above average QB but is a journeyman who’s never won anything (expect contract negotiations). No one is going to give a crap about Cousins once he’s done playing and he will drift off into obscurity. Dak would rather be Romo. Same playing career except Romo retired as QB of the Cowboys. His legacy is intact and he got the #1 broadcasting job (other than the other former Cowboys QB Troy Aikman).

Dak wants to be Romo and not Cousins. That’s why he looked sad at his last press conference.

Dak would do better in a smaller and quiet market like Seattle or Vegas. I can't see Dak ever surviving the New York media. They are brutal and Giant fans also think Dak sucks. Trust me.
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#1165 » by Mr B » Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:03 pm

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QB_Eagles wrote:He's not even clutch at press conferences?

I think he sees the writing on the wall that Jerry is ready to let him walk. I also think the Cowboys are low balling him and he’s upset because he wants to remain the QB of the Cowboys but Jerry doesn’t want to pay a QB top 2 money when he’s shown he folds in the playoffs. Dak knows he’s going to be playing for the Giants, Steelers, Raiders or Seahawks next year.

Those are great teams with great legacies but he goes from being a lifelong QB of the Dallas Cowboys to being a journeyman QB. Instead of playing his entire career with the Cowboys and reaping the benefits of that in his post playing career he’s likely going to be Kirk Cousins. Cousins is an above average QB but is a journeyman who’s never won anything (expect contract negotiations). No one is going to give a crap about Cousins once he’s done playing and he will drift off into obscurity. Dak would rather be Romo. Same playing career except Romo retired as QB of the Cowboys. His legacy is intact and he got the #1 broadcasting job (other than the other former Cowboys QB Troy Aikman).

Dak wants to be Romo and not Cousins. That’s why he looked sad at his last press conference.

There are other ex-QB commentators who aren't Cowboys and typically what they have in common is they are fairly charismatic and/or entertaining.

I like Dak as a person but entertaining is not what I have in mind when I think of him.

If all the post-career opportunities are so much greater surely he would factor that into his contract demands.

What boosts legacy even more than being on the Cowboys is a winning a Super Bowl and these two have been mutually exclusive for almost 30 years.


I don’t think anyone thought Romo had a great personality before he got the NBC gig. Honestly the same can be said about Troy. Troy was very robotic and had zero personality as a player. The only part of his personality that came through was him being an a-hole.

I think for a players legacy it’s always better if they play their entire career with 1 team. They become synonymous with the team they played for.
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#1166 » by Mr B » Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:05 pm

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QB_Eagles wrote:He's not even clutch at press conferences?

I think he sees the writing on the wall that Jerry is ready to let him walk. I also think the Cowboys are low balling him and he’s upset because he wants to remain the QB of the Cowboys but Jerry doesn’t want to pay a QB top 2 money when he’s shown he folds in the playoffs. Dak knows he’s going to be playing for the Giants, Steelers, Raiders or Seahawks next year.

Those are great teams with great legacies but he goes from being a lifelong QB of the Dallas Cowboys to being a journeyman QB. Instead of playing his entire career with the Cowboys and reaping the benefits of that in his post playing career he’s likely going to be Kirk Cousins. Cousins is an above average QB but is a journeyman who’s never won anything (expect contract negotiations). No one is going to give a crap about Cousins once he’s done playing and he will drift off into obscurity. Dak would rather be Romo. Same playing career except Romo retired as QB of the Cowboys. His legacy is intact and he got the #1 broadcasting job (other than the other former Cowboys QB Troy Aikman).

Dak wants to be Romo and not Cousins. That’s why he looked sad at his last press conference.

Well Dak comes across as a major hypocrite if that is the case. Just a couple months ago he stated that money isn't the reason he is motivated to play football and be the best. His lack of action speaks otherwise since making that statement. I've known for 3 years Dak is not the guy so more evidence Dak can't handle the pressure of the bright lights is no surprise to me.

Make no mistake Dak is about the money. His mistake is he wants both the money and the legacy. He’s finding out that he’s not going to get both.
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#1167 » by Mr B » Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:07 pm

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Mr B wrote:Dak knows he’s going to be playing for the Giants, Steelers, Raiders or Seahawks next year.

I'm telling ya, it ain't happening. They're rolling with Geno. He's going to have a career year in this new scheme. You can cross them off your destination list.

I see him ultimately staying in Dallas. But teams like the Raiders & Steelers would make the most sense if he does hit free agency.

Yea that’s possible. Personally I think the Seahawks would be better off with Geno. He’s basically Dak without the contract.
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#1168 » by Mr B » Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:11 pm

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Mr B wrote:Dak wants to be Romo and not Cousins. That’s why he looked sad at his last press conference.

He's sad, because he wants to get paid. He'd play on Jupiter (like most) if he was rewarded financially. I think the whole Cowboy legacy thing gets overblown. He wants to set the market.

He’s going to get paid regardless if he signs in Dallas or not. He’s winning the money game (like Kirk) but he’s losing the legacy game (also like Kirk). He wants both and is realizing he won’t be able to set the market AND keep his legacy intact. That’s why he’s sad.
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#1169 » by Mr B » Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:21 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:He's sad, because he wants to get paid. He'd play on Jupiter (like most) if he was rewarded financially. I think the whole Cowboy legacy thing gets overblown. He wants to set the market.

What legacy are you referring to? Haven't seen any in 29 years.

If he played in a bigger market like NY or LA he'd get just as many opportunities if not more off the field. It's completely overblown. Mahomes has no problem getting opportunities in a much smaller market.

Dak is not Mahomes though. And yes in today’s NFL if Dak played his entire career with the Giants and then retired as a Giant (or any other team) he would get the same opportunities. If Dak finishes his career playing for the Cowboys, then Giants, then some other team and some other team after that Dak will not get the same opportunities than if he played his entire career with a single team.

Again I will use Kirk Cousins as an example. What if Kirk had never left Washington. He had the same career he had in Minnesota, only he had it in Washington. Kirk would definitely have a permanent place in Washington lore. He’d be in their “ring of honor” and likely would be considered a fringe HOF’er. As a journeyman he gets none of that. He’s likely not going into Washington or Minnesota’s “ring of honor”. Romo can also be used as an example. Even though most of us here think Romo was a spare and a choker he has a HUGE fanbase amongst Cowboys fans. So much so that many feel he deserves to be n the HOF and in the Cowboys ring of honor. That’s what Dak will be losing when he joins another team this off season.
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#1170 » by Mr B » Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:23 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:
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QB_Eagles wrote:He's not even clutch at press conferences?

I think he sees the writing on the wall that Jerry is ready to let him walk. I also think the Cowboys are low balling him and he’s upset because he wants to remain the QB of the Cowboys but Jerry doesn’t want to pay a QB top 2 money when he’s shown he folds in the playoffs. Dak knows he’s going to be playing for the Giants, Steelers, Raiders or Seahawks next year.

Those are great teams with great legacies but he goes from being a lifelong QB of the Dallas Cowboys to being a journeyman QB. Instead of playing his entire career with the Cowboys and reaping the benefits of that in his post playing career he’s likely going to be Kirk Cousins. Cousins is an above average QB but is a journeyman who’s never won anything (expect contract negotiations). No one is going to give a crap about Cousins once he’s done playing and he will drift off into obscurity. Dak would rather be Romo. Same playing career except Romo retired as QB of the Cowboys. His legacy is intact and he got the #1 broadcasting job (other than the other former Cowboys QB Troy Aikman).

Dak wants to be Romo and not Cousins. That’s why he looked sad at his last press conference.

Dak would do better in a smaller and quiet market like Seattle or Vegas. I can't see Dak ever surviving the New York media. They are brutal and Giant fans also think Dak sucks. Trust me.

Pittsburgh is the best place for him in my opinion. The only way he can save his legacy is
If he went to a team like the Steelers and won a title.
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#1171 » by Cactus Jack » Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:30 pm

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Mr B wrote:Dak knows he’s going to be playing for the Giants, Steelers, Raiders or Seahawks next year.

I'm telling ya, it ain't happening. They're rolling with Geno. He's going to have a career year in this new scheme. You can cross them off your destination list.

I see him ultimately staying in Dallas. But teams like the Raiders & Steelers would make the most sense if he does hit free agency.

Yea that’s possible. Personally I think the Seahawks would be better off with Geno. He’s basically Dak without the contract.

Dak had a better year last year.

Geno is a mid-tier starter who needs to be more consistent. But I expect him to have a good year with a better playcaller.
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#1172 » by Micah Prescott » Sun Sep 1, 2024 1:26 am

It's really crazy to me, and sad, that both Zeke and Cook are being labeled old dinosaurs while Dak, no matter where he signs, is about to enter his prime and get the contract of his career while being 2 years older than them.

RBs get SCREWED in the NFL, and the rookie cap needs to be removed for them, it just isn't fair. They are run into the dirt their first 4 years and then after that no one wants to over pay for a RB. Seriously, something needs to be done there because they are also the ones that put their brain on the line and get CTE.
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#1173 » by Mr B » Sun Sep 1, 2024 3:01 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:It's really crazy to me, and sad, that both Zeke and Cook are being labeled old dinosaurs while Dak, no matter where he signs, is about to enter his prime and get the contract of his career while being 2 years older than them.

RBs get SCREWED in the NFL, and the rookie cap needs to be removed for them, it just isn't fair. They are run into the dirt their first 4 years and then after that no one wants to over pay for a RB. Seriously, something needs to be done there because they are also the ones that put their brain on the line and get CTE.

I feel RB’s should be signed to 3 year deals coming out of college. No 4th or 5th year options, just a straight 3 year deal regardless of the round you were drafted. They take such a beating and their careers are so short that (I feel) they should be able to cash in earlier than say a QB who takes longer to develop.
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#1174 » by QB_Eagles » Sun Sep 1, 2024 3:26 pm

Mr B wrote:I don’t think anyone thought Romo had a great personality before he got the NBC gig. Honestly the same can be said about Troy. Troy was very robotic and had zero personality as a player. The only part of his personality that came through was him being an a-hole.

I think for a players legacy it’s always better if they play their entire career with 1 team. They become synonymous with the team they played for.

No, I actually predicted on the old forum that Romo would do well, because I saw him do an interview away from the press podium, where he was quite entertaining.
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#1175 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sun Sep 1, 2024 3:40 pm

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Mr B wrote:I don’t think anyone thought Romo had a great personality before he got the NBC gig. Honestly the same can be said about Troy. Troy was very robotic and had zero personality as a player. The only part of his personality that came through was him being an a-hole.

I think for a players legacy it’s always better if they play their entire career with 1 team. They become synonymous with the team they played for.

No, I actually predicted on the old forum that Romo would do well, because I saw him do an interview away from the press podium, where he was quite entertaining.

When it came to personality, no one was better than Dandy Don Meredith. Him and Howard Cossell put Monday night football on the Map.
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Post#1176 » by El Turco » Sun Sep 1, 2024 4:14 pm

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Mr B wrote:I don’t think anyone thought Romo had a great personality before he got the NBC gig. Honestly the same can be said about Troy. Troy was very robotic and had zero personality as a player. The only part of his personality that came through was him being an a-hole.

I think for a players legacy it’s always better if they play their entire career with 1 team. They become synonymous with the team they played for.

No, I actually predicted on the old forum that Romo would do well, because I saw him do an interview away from the press podium, where he was quite entertaining.

When it came to personality, no one was better than Dandy Don Meredith. Him and Howard Cossell put Monday night football on the Map.


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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#1177 » by wco81 » Sun Sep 1, 2024 4:37 pm

Why would Jerry pay Lamb all that money, to have some developmental QB throw to him?

Presumably he's going to pay Parsons too. He may get an average of $40 million a year.

So give out big money deals to everyone but the QB? There's chatter that the Cowboys will somehow get Deion's kid but he's expected to be a top 5 pick right?
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Post#1178 » by Micah Prescott » Sun Sep 1, 2024 4:47 pm

wco81 wrote:Why would Jerry pay Lamb all that money, to have some developmental QB throw to him?

Presumably he's going to pay Parsons too. He may get an average of $40 million a year.

So give out big money deals to everyone but the QB? There's chatter that the Cowboys will somehow get Deion's kid but he's expected to be a top 5 pick right?

I think that the Cowboys do want to work something out with Dak, but Dak is in the driver's seat here. Actually Dak's agent is.

If Dallas doesn't give Dak a deal it is no big deal to him, he can hit free agency and get his $60m/year. So he is in no rush to sign with Dallas and frankly if I were him I'd probably pick free agency.

The only risk to it were if he suffered a career ending injury and that could happen.
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#1179 » by Mr B » Sun Sep 1, 2024 8:26 pm

wco81 wrote:Why would Jerry pay Lamb all that money, to have some developmental QB throw to him?

Presumably he's going to pay Parsons too. He may get an average of $40 million a year.

So give out big money deals to everyone but the QB? There's chatter that the Cowboys will somehow get Deion's kid but he's expected to be a top 5 pick right?

You pay Lamb because he’s your best player. Also if you are going to start over at QB you want Lamb to throw the ball too. He’s going to speed up the development of any young QB.

Shedeur won’t be the first QB taken and should go somewhere between 6-10. I expect the Cowboys will fall somewhere between 12-18 in the draft. Trading up for Shedeur will be costly but not impossible, if that’s what they want to do. I’m not certain that’s the way they want to go though.

As for Micah, I’m also not certain that they don’t trade him. He wants to set the market for pass rushers. I don’t see Stephen wanting to foot that bill. If they decide to trade up for Shedeur then trading Micah for draft picks would certainly help.
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#1180 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sat Sep 7, 2024 1:38 pm

Mr B wrote:
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Mr B wrote:I think he sees the writing on the wall that Jerry is ready to let him walk. I also think the Cowboys are low balling him and he’s upset because he wants to remain the QB of the Cowboys but Jerry doesn’t want to pay a QB top 2 money when he’s shown he folds in the playoffs. Dak knows he’s going to be playing for the Giants, Steelers, Raiders or Seahawks next year.

Those are great teams with great legacies but he goes from being a lifelong QB of the Dallas Cowboys to being a journeyman QB. Instead of playing his entire career with the Cowboys and reaping the benefits of that in his post playing career he’s likely going to be Kirk Cousins. Cousins is an above average QB but is a journeyman who’s never won anything (expect contract negotiations). No one is going to give a crap about Cousins once he’s done playing and he will drift off into obscurity. Dak would rather be Romo. Same playing career except Romo retired as QB of the Cowboys. His legacy is intact and he got the #1 broadcasting job (other than the other former Cowboys QB Troy Aikman).

Dak wants to be Romo and not Cousins. That’s why he looked sad at his last press conference.

Dak would do better in a smaller and quiet market like Seattle or Vegas. I can't see Dak ever surviving the New York media. They are brutal and Giant fans also think Dak sucks. Trust me.

Pittsburgh is the best place for him in my opinion. The only way he can save his legacy is
If he went to a team like the Steelers and won a title.

What legacy are you talking about concerning Dak? Great players become legendary and create their own legacy in the playoffs. That's always been my understanding. I was unaware Prescott has even made it to that level. Legacy, please.

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