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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#641 » by Pattersonca65 » Tue Sep 3, 2024 8:15 pm

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Good for Trent but I would still hold him out for week 1 to avoid risking injuries from being out of shape due to non practices and old. Besides, I think Kyle want his former DC to win this game otherwise he is good as canned this season. Even Belichick let his former DC Matt Patricia romp the Pats 36-10 on primetime MNF in order for him to keep his HC job for as long as he did.

https://youtu.be/NFI9FMOhQkM?si=5Sf6CsJAaJ6P7Guf

Kyle will do the same for Saleh and a home town kid who grew up a big fan of the red and gold in ARod. Any smart better would take the Jets on the moneyline for this game.

No way Kyle would do something to lose a meaningful RS game just to help out an opposing coach. And both Bosa and Aiyuk kept up their conditioning routines while they were holding out; why would Trent just sit on a sofa and eat ice cream instead? Sure his timing may be off as Bosa's was but a limited Trent is still a better player than a healthy Jaylon Moore.


Good they kept up with their conditioning but that is not the same as being in football shape
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#642 » by WentzerWuver » Tue Sep 3, 2024 8:52 pm

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WentzerWuver wrote:Good for Trent but I would still hold him out for week 1 to avoid risking injuries from being out of shape due to non practices and old. Besides, I think Kyle want his former DC to win this game otherwise he is good as canned this season. Even Belichick let his former DC Matt Patricia romp the Pats 36-10 on primetime MNF in order for him to keep his HC job for as long as he did.

https://youtu.be/NFI9FMOhQkM?si=5Sf6CsJAaJ6P7Guf

Kyle will do the same for Saleh and a home town kid who grew up a big fan of the red and gold in ARod. Any smart better would take the Jets on the moneyline for this game.

No way Kyle would do something to lose a meaningful RS game just to help out an opposing coach. And both Bosa and Aiyuk kept up their conditioning routines while they were holding out; why would Trent just sit on a sofa and eat ice cream instead? Sure his timing may be off as Bosa's was but a limited Trent is still a better player than a healthy Jaylon Moore.


Good they kept up with their conditioning but that is not the same as being in football shape


Any player who is considering retirement will not be conditioning his body during the off-season. I would be shocked if he starts week 1. This is definitely not a must win game while he needs to get back into football shape. Aiyuk will start cause he's younger so naturally in better shape.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#643 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Sep 3, 2024 9:22 pm

Rookie JC Latham worked out with Trent this summer and raved about how he couldn't come close to keeping up. I think Trent will be just fine. He's one of those completely unique human beings who can just do things physically that others can't.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#644 » by WentzerWuver » Tue Sep 3, 2024 9:40 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:Rookie JC Latham worked out with Trent this summer and raved about how he couldn't come close to keeping up. I think Trent will be just fine. He's one of those completely unique human beings who can just do things physically that others can't.
Raved? Lol what do you expect rooks to say publicly? There is a code rookies don't do, which is to make vets on the team look bad. I highly doubt Trent will be starting even tho the timing of his new contract may contradict this. It's about being in shape and relatively healthy during the playoffs.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#645 » by Jikkle » Tue Sep 3, 2024 11:19 pm

WentzerWuver wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:Rookie JC Latham worked out with Trent this summer and raved about how he couldn't come close to keeping up. I think Trent will be just fine. He's one of those completely unique human beings who can just do things physically that others can't.
Raved? Lol what do you expect rooks to say publicly? There is a code rookies don't do, which is to make vets on the team look bad. I highly doubt Trent will be starting even tho the timing of his new contract may contradict this. It's about being in shape and relatively healthy during the playoffs.


They obviously will check where he's at physically but I'd say it's pretty likely he'll start.

I mean if he tweaked a calf at the start of camp and missed all of it like CMC we wouldn't bat an eye at him playing week 1.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#646 » by Pattersonca65 » Wed Sep 4, 2024 12:05 am

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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#647 » by WentzerWuver » Wed Sep 4, 2024 12:32 am

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CrimsonCrew wrote:Rookie JC Latham worked out with Trent this summer and raved about how he couldn't come close to keeping up. I think Trent will be just fine. He's one of those completely unique human beings who can just do things physically that others can't.
Raved? Lol what do you expect rooks to say publicly? There is a code rookies don't do, which is to make vets on the team look bad. I highly doubt Trent will be starting even tho the timing of his new contract may contradict this. It's about being in shape and relatively healthy during the playoffs.


They obviously will check where he's at physically but I'd say it's pretty likely he'll start.

I mean if he tweaked a calf at the start of camp and missed all of it like CMC we wouldn't bat an eye at him playing week 1.
Jason Kelce retired at the same age as the Silverback now due to the slow healing of nagging injuries from old age. I always lean on the side with precaution and not start him but have him dressed up to step in if Jaylon Moore struggles greatly during the game as we need to know where his backup performance is at this point to not bother drafting Suamataia. Besides, it's not like Jaylon is blocking for old man Arod but a young mobile Purdy.

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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#648 » by Big J » Wed Sep 4, 2024 4:11 am

WentzerWuver wrote:
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Samurai wrote:No way Kyle would do something to lose a meaningful RS game just to help out an opposing coach. And both Bosa and Aiyuk kept up their conditioning routines while they were holding out; why would Trent just sit on a sofa and eat ice cream instead? Sure his timing may be off as Bosa's was but a limited Trent is still a better player than a healthy Jaylon Moore.


Good they kept up with their conditioning but that is not the same as being in football shape


Any player who is considering retirement will not be conditioning his body during the off-season. I would be shocked if he starts week 1. This is definitely not a must win game while he needs to get back into football shape. Aiyuk will start cause I know he kept himself in football shape.


Brett Favre used to consider retirement every year until a week before the season. Never hurt him a bit.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#649 » by WentzerWuver » Wed Sep 4, 2024 5:40 am

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Good they kept up with their conditioning but that is not the same as being in football shape


Any player who is considering retirement will not be conditioning his body during the off-season. I would be shocked if he starts week 1. This is definitely not a must win game while he needs to get back into football shape. Aiyuk will start cause he's younger so naturally in better shape.


Brett Favre used to consider retirement every year until a week before the season. Never hurt him a bit.


You mean it never hurt you a bit. He suffers from CTE, yet never disputed his contract during his career. Players who refused to honor their contracts and then not able to play up to par for the first few months of the season once they got paid like the hold outs from the past few seasons is not appreciated from most fans.

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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#650 » by WentzerWuver » Wed Sep 4, 2024 4:33 pm

If Kyle had this defense, they would be heavy favorite to win the SB cause they won't hold out for more money and be out of football shape.
https://youtu.be/hLH2JcCkS1w?si=DXKlqKkwwJ8RcAYm
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#651 » by CrimsonCrew » Wed Sep 4, 2024 7:17 pm

WentzerWuver wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:Rookie JC Latham worked out with Trent this summer and raved about how he couldn't come close to keeping up. I think Trent will be just fine. He's one of those completely unique human beings who can just do things physically that others can't.
Raved? Lol what do you expect rooks to say publicly? There is a code rookies don't do, which is to make vets on the team look bad. I highly doubt Trent will be starting even tho the timing of his new contract may contradict this. It's about being in shape and relatively healthy during the playoffs.


Two things. First, Latham is a Charger, not a Niner, so he has no motive to bolster that player in the press. And he was the 7th overall pick and a very physically talented player. Second, his raving was about how Trent could do physical things that were just crazy to him.

Does that mean Trent is going to be 100% day one? No. But it's a strong indication that he's kept himself in great physical shape. I'm confident he'll play.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#652 » by Big J » Wed Sep 4, 2024 7:49 pm

WentzerWuver wrote:If Kyle had this defense, they would be heavy favorite to win the SB cause they won't hold out for more money and be out of football shape.
https://youtu.be/hLH2JcCkS1w?si=DXKlqKkwwJ8RcAYm


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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#653 » by Harry Palmer » Wed Sep 4, 2024 8:19 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:Rookie JC Latham worked out with Trent this summer and raved about how he couldn't come close to keeping up. I think Trent will be just fine. He's one of those completely unique human beings who can just do things physically that others can't.
Raved? Lol what do you expect rooks to say publicly? There is a code rookies don't do, which is to make vets on the team look bad. I highly doubt Trent will be starting even tho the timing of his new contract may contradict this. It's about being in shape and relatively healthy during the playoffs.


Two things. First, Latham is a Charger, not a Niner, so he has no motive to bolster that player in the press. And he was the 7th overall pick and a very physically talented player. Second, his raving was about how Trent could do physical things that were just crazy to him.

Does that mean Trent is going to be 100% day one? No. But it's a strong indication that he's kept himself in great physical shape. I'm confident he'll play.


I get what you’re saying, but I also remember how special and self-sustaining Bosa was conceded to be before his poor start to last season. I’m sort of wait and see on this, I don’t think we should take his being in game shape until we see it.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#654 » by CrimsonCrew » Wed Sep 4, 2024 8:53 pm

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WentzerWuver wrote:Raved? Lol what do you expect rooks to say publicly? There is a code rookies don't do, which is to make vets on the team look bad. I highly doubt Trent will be starting even tho the timing of his new contract may contradict this. It's about being in shape and relatively healthy during the playoffs.


Two things. First, Latham is a Charger, not a Niner, so he has no motive to bolster that player in the press. And he was the 7th overall pick and a very physically talented player. Second, his raving was about how Trent could do physical things that were just crazy to him.

Does that mean Trent is going to be 100% day one? No. But it's a strong indication that he's kept himself in great physical shape. I'm confident he'll play.


I get what you’re saying, but I also remember how special and self-sustaining Bosa was conceded to be before his poor start to last season. I’m sort of wait and see on this, I don’t think we should take his being in game shape until we see it.


And Bosa played from the start and was good. He just wasn't peak Bosa. We don't need Trent to be full Trent for him to be a huge upgrade over Moore.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#655 » by WentzerWuver » Thu Sep 5, 2024 4:07 pm

Big J wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:If Kyle had this defense, they would be heavy favorite to win the SB cause they won't hold out for more money and be out of football shape.
https://youtu.be/hLH2JcCkS1w?si=DXKlqKkwwJ8RcAYm


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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#656 » by WentzerWuver » Thu Sep 5, 2024 4:13 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
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CrimsonCrew wrote:
Two things. First, Latham is a Charger, not a Niner, so he has no motive to bolster that player in the press. And he was the 7th overall pick and a very physically talented player. Second, his raving was about how Trent could do physical things that were just crazy to him.

Does that mean Trent is going to be 100% day one? No. But it's a strong indication that he's kept himself in great physical shape. I'm confident he'll play.


I get what you’re saying, but I also remember how special and self-sustaining Bosa was conceded to be before his poor start to last season. I’m sort of wait and see on this, I don’t think we should take his being in game shape until we see it.


And Bosa played from the start and was good. He just wasn't peak Bosa. We don't need Trent to be full Trent for him to be a huge upgrade over Moore.
If Jaylon is as bad as you think he is, why didn't Lynch draft an OT in day 1 or 2 instead of reaching for a receiver? We need to find if Lynch is right or wrong on how capable Moore is now to block for Purdy and not later when it matters.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#657 » by CrimsonCrew » Thu Sep 5, 2024 10:06 pm

WentzerWuver wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
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I get what you’re saying, but I also remember how special and self-sustaining Bosa was conceded to be before his poor start to last season. I’m sort of wait and see on this, I don’t think we should take his being in game shape until we see it.


And Bosa played from the start and was good. He just wasn't peak Bosa. We don't need Trent to be full Trent for him to be a huge upgrade over Moore.
If Jaylon is as bad as you think he is, why didn't Lynch draft an OT in day 1 or 2 instead of reaching for a receiver? We need to find if Lynch is right or wrong on how capable Moore is now to block for Purdy and not later when it matters.


It's a question I have asked myself many times during and since the draft. I can see passing in round one as the top OTs were gone. But I could have lived with Suamataia in Round 1. Passing on him in Round 2 blew my mind. Obviously the FO has a lot more faith in Moore than I do, but he struggled in the preseason. I just can't fathom not using a single pick on the position in the past two years in particular. McKivitz has only been okay, and who knows how much longer Trent can play, even freak that he is.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#658 » by Pattersonca65 » Thu Sep 5, 2024 11:17 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
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CrimsonCrew wrote:
And Bosa played from the start and was good. He just wasn't peak Bosa. We don't need Trent to be full Trent for him to be a huge upgrade over Moore.
If Jaylon is as bad as you think he is, why didn't Lynch draft an OT in day 1 or 2 instead of reaching for a receiver? We need to find if Lynch is right or wrong on how capable Moore is now to block for Purdy and not later when it matters.


It's a question I have asked myself many times during and since the draft. I can see passing in round one as the top OTs were gone. But I could have lived with Suamataia in Round 1. Passing on him in Round 2 blew my mind. Obviously the FO has a lot more faith in Moore than I do, but he struggled in the preseason. I just can't fathom not using a single pick on the position in the past two years in particular. McKivitz has only been okay, and who knows how much longer Trent can play, even freak that he is.


Moore has struggled more than he has played well.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#659 » by WentzerWuver » Thu Sep 5, 2024 11:20 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
And Bosa played from the start and was good. He just wasn't peak Bosa. We don't need Trent to be full Trent for him to be a huge upgrade over Moore.
If Jaylon is as bad as you think he is, why didn't Lynch draft an OT in day 1 or 2 instead of reaching for a receiver? We need to find if Lynch is right or wrong on how capable Moore is now to block for Purdy and not later when it matters.


It's a question I have asked myself many times during and since the draft. I can see passing in round one as the top OTs were gone. But I could have lived with Suamataia in Round 1. Passing on him in Round 2 blew my mind. Obviously the FO has a lot more faith in Moore than I do, but he struggled in the preseason. I just can't fathom not using a single pick on the position in the past two years in particular. McKivitz has only been okay, and who knows how much longer Trent can play, even freak that he is.
That's why Lynch is a bad GM when it comes to drafting positions of critical need. Just cause he lucked out on Purdy and Kittle does not give him a pass to play anything he wants.

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in the SB, they let him walk to build that OL up and won the SB back to back while their receivers were dropping passes like hot cakes. So did Lynch learn anything from that? Yes, I'm going to reach for a receiver cause i am the best GM on find diamonds in the rough like Purdy.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#660 » by thesack12 » Fri Sep 6, 2024 2:02 am

I'm quite surprised that Kyle named Allen as QB2 over Dobbs.

I'm not a big pro Dobbs guy, but he had a good preseason while Allen was pretty pedestrian. But I don't see the practices, maybe Allen has consistently shined in those.

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