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Post#1201 » by Mariner » Sun Sep 8, 2024 4:17 pm

Haven’t seen the official details but it’s basically fully guaranteed. Can’t cut him in year 4.
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Post#1202 » by Cactus Jack » Sun Sep 8, 2024 4:20 pm

Mariner wrote:Haven’t seen the official details but it’s basically fully guaranteed. Can’t cut him in year 4.

Yup!
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Post#1203 » by QB_Eagles » Sun Sep 8, 2024 4:22 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:The Cowboy haters are in football heaven. What a day this is going to be. I'm not put water in my bong today. Straight Tequilla.

Well, the Cowboys would have sucked for a few years without Dak anyway.

Probably the worst thing about this contract extension is that if Jerry would have gotten it done before free agency, he might have had some more cap available to improve the team.
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Post#1204 » by Mr B » Mon Sep 9, 2024 1:48 am

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Mr B wrote:Well looks like Dak will be a Cowboy for life, or at least for the next 4 years.

Read on Twitter
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It's probably not fully guaranteed, meaning the Cowboys have an out at some point, maybe in 2-3 seasons, if he's not performing and they got at least a prospect on the roster by then, the team could try to restructure or cut him to save some cap money.

It's not really that surprising. They were going to pay Lamb and Parsons because those two players are among the best players at their positions.

So if they paid those two big money, no way were they going to try to play with some untested QB while paying those two among the highest salaries at their positions. Not when their QB put up MVP numbers last season.

Nor was Jerry going to go into a full rebuild at his age. He has no excuses for not paying the big stars, since Cowboys are probably the highest revenue team in the NFL, the richest sports league in the US, maybe the world.

I believe I read that $231M of the $240M is guaranteed. He’s not going anywhere for at least 4 years.
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Post#1205 » by bluejerseyjinx » Mon Sep 9, 2024 2:47 am

Mr B wrote:
wco81 wrote:
Mr B wrote:Well looks like Dak will be a Cowboy for life, or at least for the next 4 years.

Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=3KaI_3QT7XTTm5N8gt4yQg



It's probably not fully guaranteed, meaning the Cowboys have an out at some point, maybe in 2-3 seasons, if he's not performing and they got at least a prospect on the roster by then, the team could try to restructure or cut him to save some cap money.

It's not really that surprising. They were going to pay Lamb and Parsons because those two players are among the best players at their positions.

So if they paid those two big money, no way were they going to try to play with some untested QB while paying those two among the highest salaries at their positions. Not when their QB put up MVP numbers last season.

Nor was Jerry going to go into a full rebuild at his age. He has no excuses for not paying the big stars, since Cowboys are probably the highest revenue team in the NFL, the richest sports league in the US, maybe the world.

I believe I read that $231M of the $240M is guaranteed. He’s not going anywhere for at least 4 years.

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Post#1206 » by Micah Prescott » Mon Sep 9, 2024 1:51 pm

So, his last contract was completely back loaded into his last year, which was just wiped clean. I mean Dallas actually got him cheap last contract. Or am I missing something here?

This makes me think that all large contracts should be back loaded.
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Post#1207 » by bluejerseyjinx » Mon Sep 9, 2024 1:57 pm

NFL is still a hard cap league. Now that Lamb and Dak are paid that means they will most likely pay Parsons next year and have to gut the team shortly after that. Relying on rookies and Vets playing for the minimum.
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Post#1208 » by Mr B » Mon Sep 9, 2024 2:18 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:So, his last contract was completely back loaded into his last year, which was just wiped clean. I mean Dallas actually got him cheap last contract. Or am I missing something here?

This makes me think that all large contracts should be back loaded.

It’s not wiped clean because the Cowboys are still paying for it right now (on this year’s cap). The extension doesn’t start until his current contract has expired.

That’s why it makes no sense to do Micah’s contract now when he technically still has 2 years remaining on his deal. That was the mistake they made with Zeke when they signed him 2 years before his current contract was up. By the time his new contract kicked in he was already washed and they still owed him a ton of money.
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Post#1209 » by Micah Prescott » Mon Sep 9, 2024 2:26 pm

Mr B wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:So, his last contract was completely back loaded into his last year, which was just wiped clean. I mean Dallas actually got him cheap last contract. Or am I missing something here?

This makes me think that all large contracts should be back loaded.

It’s not wiped clean because the Cowboys are still paying for it right now (on this year’s cap). The extension doesn’t start until his current contract has expired.

That’s why it makes no sense to do Micah’s contract now when he technically still has 2 years remaining on his deal. That was the mistake they made with Zeke when they signed him 2 years before his current contract was up. By the time his new contract kicked in he was already washed and they still owed him a ton of money.

So it's a 4 year deal, AFTER this season?

Okay welp, that's what I missed then lol.
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Post#1210 » by SurfAndTurf » Mon Sep 9, 2024 2:36 pm

This is just Jerry costing himself 5 million a year for waiting to long . Howie Roseman does the complete opposite most of the time .
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Post#1211 » by Micah Prescott » Mon Sep 9, 2024 2:42 pm

SurfAndTurf wrote:This is just Jerry costing himself 5 million a year for waiting to long . Howie Roseman does the complete opposite most of the time .

yep, it's the worst. Happened Dak's last contract too.

Not only does it end up making the contract bigger, but the Cowboys were basically unable to get involved in Free Agency as well.

It's a huge flaw in how they do business.
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Post#1212 » by SurfAndTurf » Mon Sep 9, 2024 2:56 pm

What is worse this contract or the 230 million garunteed the Browns gave Watson ?
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Post#1213 » by Micah Prescott » Mon Sep 9, 2024 3:00 pm

SurfAndTurf wrote:What is worse this contract or the 230 million garunteed the Browns gave Watson ?

Watson looked terrible so definitely that.

Dumping everything into Watson was such a Browns thing to do and fans are now just in acceptance of it.
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Post#1214 » by bluejerseyjinx » Mon Sep 9, 2024 3:12 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:
SurfAndTurf wrote:What is worse this contract or the 230 million garunteed the Browns gave Watson ?

Watson looked terrible so definitely that.

Dumping everything into Watson was such a Browns thing to do and fans are now just in acceptance of it.

I think Watson's career as a starting QB is coming to a close fairly soon.
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Post#1215 » by QB_Eagles » Mon Sep 9, 2024 3:19 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:
SurfAndTurf wrote:What is worse this contract or the 230 million garunteed the Browns gave Watson ?

Watson looked terrible so definitely that.

Dumping everything into Watson was such a Browns thing to do and fans are now just in acceptance of it.

I think Watson's career as a starting QB is coming to a close fairly soon.

And it won't have a happy ending.
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Post#1216 » by Micah Prescott » Mon Sep 9, 2024 3:43 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:Watson looked terrible so definitely that.

Dumping everything into Watson was such a Browns thing to do and fans are now just in acceptance of it.

I think Watson's career as a starting QB is coming to a close fairly soon.

And it won't have a happy ending.

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Post#1217 » by Mr B » Mon Sep 9, 2024 4:07 pm

SurfAndTurf wrote:This is just Jerry costing himself 5 million a year for waiting to long . Howie Roseman does the complete opposite most of the time .

The advertising he got out of everyone taking about Dak and the Cowboys the last few weeks is worth more than the $5M he lost in Dak’s contract. That’s the only reason they drug this out for so long.
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Post#1218 » by Mr B » Mon Sep 9, 2024 4:08 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:
SurfAndTurf wrote:This is just Jerry costing himself 5 million a year for waiting to long . Howie Roseman does the complete opposite most of the time .

yep, it's the worst. Happened Dak's last contract too.

Not only does it end up making the contract bigger, but the Cowboys were basically unable to get involved in Free Agency as well.

It's a huge flaw in how they do business.

Stephen Jones has no desire to dip into free agency unless he’s signing his own players. Signing free agents not only cost money but they cost the team comp picks which Stephen and Will McClay covet.
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Post#1219 » by Micah Prescott » Mon Sep 9, 2024 4:45 pm

Mr B wrote:
SurfAndTurf wrote:This is just Jerry costing himself 5 million a year for waiting to long . Howie Roseman does the complete opposite most of the time .

The advertising he got out of everyone taking about Dak and the Cowboys the last few weeks is worth more than the $5M he lost in Dak’s contract. That’s the only reason they drug this out for so long.

If Dak doesn't get that money another player will. We're going to max out the cap every year regardless.

I don't think they drug it out for media exposure. They do this with every player. It's just their way of going about things.
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Post#1220 » by Mariner » Mon Sep 9, 2024 5:01 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:
Mr B wrote:
SurfAndTurf wrote:This is just Jerry costing himself 5 million a year for waiting to long . Howie Roseman does the complete opposite most of the time .

The advertising he got out of everyone taking about Dak and the Cowboys the last few weeks is worth more than the $5M he lost in Dak’s contract. That’s the only reason they drug this out for so long.

If Dak doesn't get that money another player will. We're going to max out the cap every year regardless.

I don't think they drug it out for media exposure. They do this with every player. It's just their way of going about things.

Lamb signed a few months after Jefferson and signed before Chase. Well within the norm. But the cowboys get criticized more.
Every other QB who was next man up slightly got more then the guy before. But Dak wanted to clear number two by millions.
The fact that Dak got 60 million means the cowboys weren’t the problem here.
The cowboy players use the media attention and large fan base to hold the cowboys hostage.
Most people would say the contract is more than fair and the funny part is that Dak could have easily refused it and got more a year from now.
The cowboys do sign players early. Steele, T smith, J smith etc… It’s just when they do it’s boring. lol
The 49ers have the same problems.
Bosa held out and got signed at the last second.
Their receiver held out and just got signed.
Their left tackle did the same thing Zack Martin did last year.
The only difference is that when it happens in Dallas it is more scrutinized.

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