Jikkle wrote:CrimsonCrew wrote:WentzerWuver wrote:Lol I just spew hot coffee outta my nose after reading your response. Ooouch hot hot hot!!!! So JimmyG is even better than Hurts in the SB with the same OL ...like your the one who needs some coffee to wake up Lol
He's not saying that. He's saying that Jimmy, behind that OL but with the Niners' skill players and defense, would have won the SB. I don't think anyone is arguing Hurts has the skill players and defense we do, even though he's got an exciting group of young receivers around him.
This.
No question I'd take Hurts over Jimmy G but if the 2019 and 2021 9ers had the Eagle's offensive line we probably win two titles and we win one last year. Obviously hypotheticals are tricky but we might win one in 2022 as well.
Shanahan's offense has a major fatal flaw that has nothing to do with whoever is QB and that's the offense is heavily dependent on his scheme working to be effective.
The reason the offense is effective despite having a mediocre to crap offensive line outside of LT is because all the misdirection and smoke and mirrors confuses and slows down opposing defenses giving the offensive line favorable angles to block in the running game. With the passing game Shanahan is great at finding the weak links in a defense and getting favorable matchups there.
The flaw is when we run into a defense with a front that can overpower the offensive line and just ignore all the eye candy Shanahan throws at them. Combined with a back end that isn't easily exploitable in the passing game it's why you see teams like the Chiefs, Ravens, and Browns really cripple our offense when we play them.
When we run into defenses like that the running game goes nowhere because the offensive line needs to be able to just line up and overpower guys which they can't and the passing game stalls because the QB needs some time for guys to get open but the offensive line gets destroyed and can't give the QB the time they need to make plays.
Only a couple of defenses are able to actually pull it off but those types of defenses you usually see at least once in the postseason and why we keep falling short of winning a title.
Agree with this, and will add that it's part of why our dropback passing game isn't nearly as effective as our play action stuff. JT O'Sullivan goes off on this regularly when he reviews Niner games. As inventive as our play action game is, our empty set, shotgun, pure pass plays are frequently rudimentary and just downright bad. If we're going to maximize Brock, Kyle will have to improve in this area.
It looks like Puni is a keeper, which is good news. Banks is a tough one as he has played very well, but in a small sample size and after the injuries last year he was downright awful. What will he be this year? Early signs suggest in between his excellent play to start the year and his terrible play to end the year. That's some improvement, but we could really use him stepping up. And if he plays even decently this year, we'll probably lose him in the offseason.
Brendel just isn't very good at all. He can't pass block. He's only okay in run blocking. He's a major liability. But we don't have much better to replace him right now unless Feliciano gets healthy and Foerster is willing to pull Brendel.
McKivitz is only okay, but I think he's a bit better than his reputation. As a pass blocker, he isn't markedly worse than McGlinchey, and he's a lot cheaper. Still, we should have tried to upgrade him this year with a player who could maybe take over for Trent next year.
I was pretty frustrated we kept Zakelj over Kingston. Zakelj apparently played extremely well against the run this preseason, but continued to struggle in pass-blocking. Kingston looked better in pass-blocking, and I probably would have leaned that way. We'll see. Those two guys are the same age, so Zakelj probably still has some upside and is likely the more physically talented player, but if he still can't pass block in his third season, it's a problem.
And obviously the total lack of depth at OT is just the most confusing thing about this entire roster. We have an ancient (admittedly still really good) LT and a below average RT. And that's been the situation for three years now. Yet we only have one semi-viable backup OT on the roster and no real developmental guys? That's unacceptable in my view.
