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I have Zaccharie Risacher as the runaway favorite to win rookie of the year. Trae with an increase from 18 to 20 attempts per game and the shooterd we have might be able to do it. The locker room being drama free is the biggest key to me and if Trae has matured into a leader.Jamaaliver wrote:This feels much more likely (with a healthy Trae for the year.)
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HMFFL wrote:I have Zaccharie Risacher as the runaway favorite to win rookie of the year. Trae with an increase from 18 to 20 attempts per game and the shooterd we have might be able to do it. The locker room being drama free is the biggest key to me and if Trae has matured into a leader.
Bleacher ReportAtlanta Hawks Off-season Revisited
Biggest Win: Landing the No. 1 pick
Winning the draft lottery is a HugeFreakingDeal for a franchise that doesn't control its next three first-rounders. Whether you think the Atlanta Hawks made the most of that pick is debatable.
Zaccharie Risacher seems more plug-and-play than conventional star prospect. But 1) we can't know for sure until he plays the games, and 2) that's not the end of the world. Risacher's hustle in transition and half-court floor navigation will translate, and his value skyrockets should he consistently bang in triples, even if only from the corners.
Also, even with De'Andre Hunter and Dyson Daniels in the fold, Risacher is likely Atlanta's best shot at having someone next season who qualifies as a two-way wing.
Biggest Loss: Dejounte Murray
Trading Murray stings on three fronts.
It is first and foremost an admittance that the Hawks never should have acquired him. After that, Atlanta must grapple with having accepted a largely future-focused return despite not really controlling its own future. (See: Draft obligations to San Antonio.)
And finally, regardless of how you feel about his fit or the return on his departure, the Hawks are now tasked with replacing 22.5 points, 6.4 assists and 7.1 three-point attempts per game.
Jamaaliver wrote:Bleacher ReportAtlanta Hawks Off-season Revisited
Biggest Win: Landing the No. 1 pick
Winning the draft lottery is a HugeFreakingDeal for a franchise that doesn't control its next three first-rounders. Whether you think the Atlanta Hawks made the most of that pick is debatable.
Zaccharie Risacher seems more plug-and-play than conventional star prospect. But 1) we can't know for sure until he plays the games, and 2) that's not the end of the world. Risacher's hustle in transition and half-court floor navigation will translate, and his value skyrockets should he consistently bang in triples, even if only from the corners.
Also, even with De'Andre Hunter and Dyson Daniels in the fold, Risacher is likely Atlanta's best shot at having someone next season who qualifies as a two-way wing.
Biggest Loss: Dejounte Murray
Trading Murray stings on three fronts.
It is first and foremost an admittance that the Hawks never should have acquired him. After that, Atlanta must grapple with having accepted a largely future-focused return despite not really controlling its own future. (See: Draft obligations to San Antonio.)
And finally, regardless of how you feel about his fit or the return on his departure, the Hawks are now tasked with replacing 22.5 points, 6.4 assists and 7.1 three-point attempts per game.
Bleacher ReportOffseason Moves That Are Low-Key Huge Wins
Hawks Trade Return for Dejounte Murray
The Dejounte Murray trade was covered sufficiently this summer, although primarily from the New Orleans Pelicans' point of view.
The 27-year-old will undoubtedly help solve New Orleans' point guard issue, but don't be surprised if the Hawks come away as the winners in the deal.
Atlanta received a pair of first-round picks, Dyson Daniels, Larry Nance Jr. and E.J. Liddell...in exchange for Murray, a move that cleared a lot of future salary off the books and raised the ceiling of the franchise overall.
The most important part of the trade for the Hawks was the inclusion of a 2025 first-round pick from New Orleans, one that's actually coming from the Los Angeles Lakers that was originally sent to the Pelicans in the Anthony Davis trade. The Pels had the option to take L.A.'s draft selection in 2024 or 2025, opting to delay the pick likely due to the difference in class strengths.
The Hawks now own the Lakers' unprotected first-round pick in 2025, a draft that is "loaded with potential stars," according to Bleacher Report's Jonathan Wasserman.
Los Angeles has selected at No. 17 each of the past two years, although its 2025 pick has the potential to be even higher. LeBron James (71 games played) and Anthony Davis (76) were both abnormally healthy last year, as neither star had even reached 60 games since the 2019-20 season.
With James set to turn 40 in December and Davis now 31, these two aren't going to become more durable with age. Missing one (or both) would lead to a freefall for a Lakers team that did little to improve this offseason and had a net rating of minus-13.2 (8th percentile via Cleaning the Glass) in the 735 total possessions the two stars were off the floor.
This is a potential gold mine of a pick for Atlanta, which is important since its own draft selection is owed to the San Antonio Spurs from the original Murray trade.
Tack on another first-round pick coming in 2027, the two-way potential of 21-year-old Dyson Daniels and the insurance of Nance as a do-it-all rotation big and we'll look back at this trade being a huge win for the Hawks.
Jamaaliver wrote:Bleacher ReportOffseason Moves That Are Low-Key Huge Wins
Hawks Trade Return for Dejounte Murray
The Dejounte Murray trade was covered sufficiently this summer, although primarily from the New Orleans Pelicans' point of view.
The 27-year-old will undoubtedly help solve New Orleans' point guard issue, but don't be surprised if the Hawks come away as the winners in the deal.
Atlanta received a pair of first-round picks, Dyson Daniels, Larry Nance Jr. and E.J. Liddell...in exchange for Murray, a move that cleared a lot of future salary off the books and raised the ceiling of the franchise overall.
The most important part of the trade for the Hawks was the inclusion of a 2025 first-round pick from New Orleans, one that's actually coming from the Los Angeles Lakers that was originally sent to the Pelicans in the Anthony Davis trade. The Pels had the option to take L.A.'s draft selection in 2024 or 2025, opting to delay the pick likely due to the difference in class strengths.
The Hawks now own the Lakers' unprotected first-round pick in 2025, a draft that is "loaded with potential stars," according to Bleacher Report's Jonathan Wasserman.
Los Angeles has selected at No. 17 each of the past two years, although its 2025 pick has the potential to be even higher. LeBron James (71 games played) and Anthony Davis (76) were both abnormally healthy last year, as neither star had even reached 60 games since the 2019-20 season.
With James set to turn 40 in December and Davis now 31, these two aren't going to become more durable with age. Missing one (or both) would lead to a freefall for a Lakers team that did little to improve this offseason and had a net rating of minus-13.2 (8th percentile via Cleaning the Glass) in the 735 total possessions the two stars were off the floor.
This is a potential gold mine of a pick for Atlanta, which is important since its own draft selection is owed to the San Antonio Spurs from the original Murray trade.
Tack on another first-round pick coming in 2027, the two-way potential of 21-year-old Dyson Daniels and the insurance of Nance as a do-it-all rotation big and we'll look back at this trade being a huge win for the Hawks.
tbhawksfan1 wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:Bleacher ReportOffseason Moves That Are Low-Key Huge Wins
Hawks Trade Return for Dejounte Murray
The Dejounte Murray trade was covered sufficiently this summer, although primarily from the New Orleans Pelicans' point of view.
The 27-year-old will undoubtedly help solve New Orleans' point guard issue, but don't be surprised if the Hawks come away as the winners in the deal.
Atlanta received a pair of first-round picks, Dyson Daniels, Larry Nance Jr. and E.J. Liddell...in exchange for Murray, a move that cleared a lot of future salary off the books and raised the ceiling of the franchise overall.
The most important part of the trade for the Hawks was the inclusion of a 2025 first-round pick from New Orleans, one that's actually coming from the Los Angeles Lakers that was originally sent to the Pelicans in the Anthony Davis trade. The Pels had the option to take L.A.'s draft selection in 2024 or 2025, opting to delay the pick likely due to the difference in class strengths.
The Hawks now own the Lakers' unprotected first-round pick in 2025, a draft that is "loaded with potential stars," according to Bleacher Report's Jonathan Wasserman.
Los Angeles has selected at No. 17 each of the past two years, although its 2025 pick has the potential to be even higher. LeBron James (71 games played) and Anthony Davis (76) were both abnormally healthy last year, as neither star had even reached 60 games since the 2019-20 season.
With James set to turn 40 in December and Davis now 31, these two aren't going to become more durable with age. Missing one (or both) would lead to a freefall for a Lakers team that did little to improve this offseason and had a net rating of minus-13.2 (8th percentile via Cleaning the Glass) in the 735 total possessions the two stars were off the floor.
This is a potential gold mine of a pick for Atlanta, which is important since its own draft selection is owed to the San Antonio Spurs from the original Murray trade.
Tack on another first-round pick coming in 2027, the two-way potential of 21-year-old Dyson Daniels and the insurance of Nance as a do-it-all rotation big and we'll look back at this trade being a huge win for the Hawks.
This is exactly how I have viewed this trade from the beginning. Great trade to get out of a bad situation
2024 NBA offseason: Southeast Division
With three of the top 10 picks in the draft incoming, where do these moves stack up with everything else that went in on the Southeast Division this summer?
Atlanta Hawks
The Hawks, after an up-and-down 2023-24 season and sneaking into the Play-In Tournament for the third year in a row, were bounced unceremoniously by the Bulls out of the playoff mix. Things were looking rough. Their two best players did not seem to complement each other, and they’d been stuck in the purgatory of not being good enough to truly contend and not being bad enough to benefit from a high draft pick. Then the lottery gods smiled upon them and made good on their three percent odds to receive the No. 1 pick in the draft. Things have to be looking up, right? Well, that remains to be seen.
Best Move: Dejounte Murray tradeWorst Move: Draft Zaccharie Risacher at No. 1Spoiler:Spoiler:
Bleacher ReportReasons to Love and Hate Atlanta's Offseason
Love: They acquired future-focused assets
We can't really credit the Atlanta Hawks for lucking into the No. 1 pick in the 2024 draft, which ultimately became Zaccharie Risacher. But the acquisition of a top talent, even in a weak draft, combines well with the trade that turned Dejounte Murray into Dyson Daniels and a pair of first-round picks.
Those assets give the Hawks optionality if Trae Young can't guide an otherwise unchanged core to more than last year's 36 wins.
Hate: The on-court product isn't any better
Risacher is unlikely to be a helpful player this season, and the subtraction of Murray means the Hawks don't have as much overall talent as they did a year ago. Because they don't control their own 2025 first-rounder, it's hard to see the Hawks tanking. So that means they're stuck gunning for the Play-In with reduced firepower.
It's possible Daniels will pop, and his defense-first skill set is admittedly intriguing next to Young. Atlanta could get organic growth from him, Onyeka Okongwu and Jalen Johnson, thereby compensating for Murray's departure. But the product, on paper, isn't as good as it was a year ago.
