FUTURE DRAFT GAMES - NEW THREAD 2/21/22

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Post#1721 » by durantbird » Sun Sep 8, 2024 2:12 am

Laimbeer wrote:How about a draft where we randomly match each NBA franchise with a season within the last 30 years. A sample pool might be like this. This is a quickie, we could make it work so the expansion franchises have a valid season.

1995 Dallas Mavericks
1996 Charlotte Hornets
1997 San Antonio Spurs
1998 Memphis Grizzlies
1999 Portland Trail Blazers
2000 Detroit Pistons
2001 Cleveland Cavaliers
2002 Minnesota Timberwolves
2003 Phoenix Suns
2004 Oklahoma City Thunder
2005 Boston Celtics
2006 Los Angeles Clippers
2007 Denver Nuggets
2008 New Orleans Pelicans
2009 Indiana Pacers
2010 Chicago Bulls
2011 Toronto Raptors
2012 Houston Rockets
2013 Atlanta Hawks
2014 Los Angeles Lakers
2015 Orlando Magic
2016 New York Knicks
2017 Milwaukee Bucks
2018 Utah Jazz
2019 Washington Wizards
2020 Brooklyn Nets
2021 Miami Heat
2022 Philadelphia 76ers
2023 Sacramento Kings
2024 Golden State Warriors

In this example, best pieces are old man Curry, pre peak Giannis, Embiid, Butler, Garnett, CP3, Hill, Pierce, pre MVP Rose. Robinson and Kyrie are ineligible due to insufficient games. Maybe I missed some guys. Sounds too prone to a pretty shallow pool.
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Post#1722 » by Dr Positivity » Sun Sep 8, 2024 7:48 am

Laimbeer wrote:How about a draft where we randomly match each NBA franchise with a season within the last 30 years. A sample pool might be like this. This is a quickie, we could make it work so the expansion franchises have a valid season.

1995 Dallas Mavericks
1996 Charlotte Hornets
1997 San Antonio Spurs
1998 Memphis Grizzlies
1999 Portland Trail Blazers
2000 Detroit Pistons
2001 Cleveland Cavaliers
2002 Minnesota Timberwolves
2003 Phoenix Suns
2004 Oklahoma City Thunder
2005 Boston Celtics
2006 Los Angeles Clippers
2007 Denver Nuggets
2008 New Orleans Pelicans
2009 Indiana Pacers
2010 Chicago Bulls
2011 Toronto Raptors
2012 Houston Rockets
2013 Atlanta Hawks
2014 Los Angeles Lakers
2015 Orlando Magic
2016 New York Knicks
2017 Milwaukee Bucks
2018 Utah Jazz
2019 Washington Wizards
2020 Brooklyn Nets
2021 Miami Heat
2022 Philadelphia 76ers
2023 Sacramento Kings
2024 Golden State Warriors


I like the idea but I think this pool might not be good enough
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Post#1723 » by Dr Positivity » Sun Sep 8, 2024 7:50 am

Maybe a draft where every franchise's best decade since the 90s isn't allowed

90s: Bulls, Knicks, Hawks, Hornets, Jazz, Suns, Rockets
00s: Lakers, Spurs, Pistons, Pacers, Magic, Nets, Sixers, Wolves, Blazers, Kings
10s: Warriors, Cavs, Heat, Raptors, Thunder, Clippers, Mavericks, Pelicans, Grizzlies, Wizards (?)
20s: Nuggets, Bucks, Celtics

Alternatively some of these could be their own draft like "2010s golden years teams" draft.
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Post#1724 » by flaco » Sun Sep 8, 2024 8:34 am

Laimbeer wrote:Have we done a game requiring a certain number of assists? Five? Could be an interesting pool. There are enough centers, but you'd have to decide how high to prioritize the better ones.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1D6PkKPcoSD34OtLaAp8hHnJVSU8zExLJetFxr18Mhfw/edit?usp=sharing

Personally, I like this idea the most.
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Post#1725 » by durantbird » Sun Sep 8, 2024 12:50 pm

Another option we can do similar to the current draft is Pick The Franchises.

Each drafter adds another franchise to the pool, but only 90s and 10s years are available
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Post#1726 » by Laimbeer » Sun Sep 8, 2024 3:03 pm

flaco wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:Have we done a game requiring a certain number of assists? Five? Could be an interesting pool. There are enough centers, but you'd have to decide how high to prioritize the better ones.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1D6PkKPcoSD34OtLaAp8hHnJVSU8zExLJetFxr18Mhfw/edit?usp=sharing

Personally, I like this idea the most.


Shortage of big men but it will be pretty darn loaded otherwise.
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Post#1727 » by Laimbeer » Sun Sep 8, 2024 3:16 pm

durantbird wrote:Another option we can do similar to the current draft is Pick The Franchises.

Each drafter adds another franchise to the pool, but only 90s and 10s years are available


An interesting twist might be the player you take drives your franchise selection. However, you wouldn't have to make your franchise selection in the first round - you could use a franchise someone else had selected earlier.

For example, I pick Tim Duncan in the first round, opening up the the Spurs as an available franchise. You select David Robinson later in the first, using my franchise. You still have your franchise selection to use in later rounds. In the second and subsequent rounds there would be numerous franchises opened, any of which can be used. In theory you could save your franchise selection until any round in the draft.
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Post#1728 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun Sep 8, 2024 3:17 pm

Laimbeer wrote:Have we done a game requiring a certain number of assists? Five? Could be an interesting pool. There are enough centers, but you'd have to decide how high to prioritize the better ones.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1D6PkKPcoSD34OtLaAp8hHnJVSU8zExLJetFxr18Mhfw/edit?usp=sharing

We've done one based on total assists across the entire roster:

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=340&t=1966773&p=83124279&hilit=assists#p83124279
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Post#1729 » by Laimbeer » Sun Sep 8, 2024 3:33 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:Have we done a game requiring a certain number of assists? Five? Could be an interesting pool. There are enough centers, but you'd have to decide how high to prioritize the better ones.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1D6PkKPcoSD34OtLaAp8hHnJVSU8zExLJetFxr18Mhfw/edit?usp=sharing

We've done one based on total assists across the entire roster:

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=340&t=1966773&p=83124279&hilit=assists#p83124279


Ah yeah I think I remember a rebound total as well. This would be different in that it is by player and impacts the big man pool directly.
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Post#1730 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun Sep 8, 2024 3:34 pm

What about a version of the current game, except everyone's first pick is what expands the pool?

For example, if I take LeBron first, I have to specify the franchise, and then his years with that franchise are available to everyone. Obviously for a Steph or Duncan it would cover all their years with that franchise.

Considering we get a maximum of 10 players these days it wouldn't be too loaded, and it guarantees everyone has a quality first option to start.
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Post#1731 » by flaco » Sun Sep 8, 2024 4:10 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
flaco wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:Have we done a game requiring a certain number of assists? Five? Could be an interesting pool. There are enough centers, but you'd have to decide how high to prioritize the better ones.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1D6PkKPcoSD34OtLaAp8hHnJVSU8zExLJetFxr18Mhfw/edit?usp=sharing

Personally, I like this idea the most.


Shortage of big men but it will be pretty darn loaded otherwise.

Shortage of role players too. Good luck trying to find a 3+D wing with 5+ assists. I like it though. We'd be forced to build unconventional teams.
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Post#1732 » by Snakebites » Sun Sep 8, 2024 5:17 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:What about a version of the current game, except everyone's first pick is what expands the pool?

For example, if I take LeBron first, I have to specify the franchise, and then his years with that franchise are available to everyone. Obviously for a Steph or Duncan it would cover all their years with that franchise.

Considering we get a maximum of 10 players these days it wouldn't be too loaded, and it guarantees everyone has a quality first option to start.

So there’s no restrictions on picks in the first round?

And yeah this seems like a better version of what we did this time. You don’t get to impact the pool unless you yourself are willing to invest in that team.
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Post#1733 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun Sep 8, 2024 5:33 pm

Snakebites wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:What about a version of the current game, except everyone's first pick is what expands the pool?

For example, if I take LeBron first, I have to specify the franchise, and then his years with that franchise are available to everyone. Obviously for a Steph or Duncan it would cover all their years with that franchise.

Considering we get a maximum of 10 players these days it wouldn't be too loaded, and it guarantees everyone has a quality first option to start.

So there’s no restrictions on picks in the first round?

And yeah this seems like a better version of what we did this time. You don’t get to impact the pool unless you yourself are willing to invest in that team.

No restrictions, it would just be a regular first round, except if you draft a player with multiple franchises you have to choose one.
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Post#1734 » by Laimbeer » Sun Sep 8, 2024 6:38 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:
Snakebites wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:What about a version of the current game, except everyone's first pick is what expands the pool?

For example, if I take LeBron first, I have to specify the franchise, and then his years with that franchise are available to everyone. Obviously for a Steph or Duncan it would cover all their years with that franchise.

Considering we get a maximum of 10 players these days it wouldn't be too loaded, and it guarantees everyone has a quality first option to start.

So there’s no restrictions on picks in the first round?

And yeah this seems like a better version of what we did this time. You don’t get to impact the pool unless you yourself are willing to invest in that team.

No restrictions, it would just be a regular first round, except if you draft a player with multiple franchises you have to choose one.


How about allowing people to choose between established seasons from prior picks and saving their new player-pool for later? For example, if you picked LeBron-Heat I could take Wade from your pool and use mine in a later round? Adds a whole level of strategy.
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Post#1735 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun Sep 8, 2024 6:46 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
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Snakebites wrote:So there’s no restrictions on picks in the first round?

And yeah this seems like a better version of what we did this time. You don’t get to impact the pool unless you yourself are willing to invest in that team.

No restrictions, it would just be a regular first round, except if you draft a player with multiple franchises you have to choose one.


How about allowing people to choose between established seasons from prior picks and saving their new player-pool for later? For example, if you picked LeBron-Heat I could take Wade from your pool and use mine in a later round? Adds a whole level of strategy.

Tbh I wouldn't want there to be much strategising with the picks, it's just to create a decent but challenging pool. Also, that seems like it would disproportionately favour the people lower down in the order.
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Post#1736 » by Snakebites » Sun Sep 8, 2024 7:03 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:No restrictions, it would just be a regular first round, except if you draft a player with multiple franchises you have to choose one.


How about allowing people to choose between established seasons from prior picks and saving their new player-pool for later? For example, if you picked LeBron-Heat I could take Wade from your pool and use mine in a later round? Adds a whole level of strategy.

Tbh I wouldn't want there to be much strategising with the picks, it's just to create a decent but challenging pool. Also, that seems like it would disproportionately favour the people lower down in the order.

I agree.
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Post#1737 » by MadNESS » Thu Sep 12, 2024 6:20 pm

How about a double expanding draft, but like a spider web.

I pick Heat Lebron, I would then pick Ray Allen, but can use any season, then gotta pick a Ray Allen teammate, and can use any season, then that players teammate... etc.
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Post#1738 » by Larry_Russell » Thu Sep 12, 2024 6:37 pm

MadNESS wrote:How about a double expanding draft, but like a spider web.

I pick Heat Lebron, I would then pick Ray Allen, but can use any season, then gotta pick a Ray Allen teammate, and can use any season, then that players teammate... etc.


a 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon draft?

Pick Lebron, then oyu have to chose a lebron teammate (ray allen), then you need to select a ray allen teammate, etc?
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Post#1739 » by MadNESS » Thu Sep 12, 2024 6:38 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:
MadNESS wrote:How about a double expanding draft, but like a spider web.

I pick Heat Lebron, I would then pick Ray Allen, but can use any season, then gotta pick a Ray Allen teammate, and can use any season, then that players teammate... etc.


a 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon draft?

Pick Lebron, then oyu have to chose a lebron teammate (ray allen), then you need to select a ray allen teammate, etc?


Yes, but you can pick any season of that player. So it could be Bucks Ray Allen, and then Celtics Pierce, etc.
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Post#1740 » by Larry_Russell » Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:07 pm

MadNESS wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:
MadNESS wrote:How about a double expanding draft, but like a spider web.

I pick Heat Lebron, I would then pick Ray Allen, but can use any season, then gotta pick a Ray Allen teammate, and can use any season, then that players teammate... etc.


a 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon draft?

Pick Lebron, then oyu have to chose a lebron teammate (ray allen), then you need to select a ray allen teammate, etc?


Yes, but you can pick any season of that player. So it could be Bucks Ray Allen, and then Celtics Pierce, etc.



I like that.

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