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2024 49ers Season

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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#41 » by thesack12 » Sat Sep 14, 2024 11:57 pm

RIPskaterdude wrote:Bring back Breida for depth?


That would be the logical move, especially since he's a familiar vet and Kyle doesn't seem to trust Guernendo quite yet.

That said Breida didn't look like he had much of a pulse in the preseason, and really he hasn't been good for a few years now.

Jeff Wilson got hurt this past Thursday night, but its not believed to be serious. Assuming he's ok, I wouldn't mind trading for him to come back. Something like a conditional 6th rounder that could become a 5th based on carries or snaps. For that matter, I would do the same for Mostert if Miami would rather move Raheem.

That said, with Tua unfortunately concussed again and out for the forseeable future, McDaniel is likely lean on the run game even harder now. So I don't think he's going to be open to trading any viable ball carriers away.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#42 » by Pattersonca65 » Sun Sep 15, 2024 3:53 am

thesack12 wrote:
RIPskaterdude wrote:Bring back Breida for depth?


That would be the logical move, especially since he's a familiar vet and Kyle doesn't seem to trust Guernendo quite yet.

That said Breida didn't look like he had much of a pulse in the preseason, and really he hasn't been good for a few years now.

Jeff Wilson got hurt this past Thursday night, but its not believed to be serious. Assuming he's ok, I wouldn't mind trading for him to come back. Something like a conditional 6th rounder that could become a 5th based on carries or snaps. For that matter, I would do the same for Mostert if Miami would rather move Raheem.

That said, with Tua unfortunately concussed again and out for the forseeable future, McDaniel is likely lean on the run game even harder now. So I don't think he's going to be open to trading any viable ball carriers away.


I hope so. I have Achane in fantasy
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#43 » by Jikkle » Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:59 am

I'm picking the 9ers to win but the Vikings game does have the makings for a possible upset.

Short week and a 10am road game though Minnesota is on CST so not quite as bad as an EST game.

But Vikings are just that team that isn't great and probably won't make the playoffs but not terrible either and the type that can snatch some wins from better teams.

At the risk at sounding obsessed I am a little concerned our shoddy 3rd down defense did poke it's head out against the Jets. That one drive they scored their early TD they converted 3rd and 8, 3rd and 7, and 3rd and 7. Those are all pretty much ideal 3rd down scenarios and no way a top-tier defense should allow an offense to convert 3 of those in one drive.

I'm just a regular ole fan and not someone that studies All-22 film or anything so it's just hard for me to figure out how we can drop 7 guys and give up what feels like easy completetions. I know the pass rush hasn't been terrifying but I do want to be fair and say we're only rushing 4 straight up against 5 so it's just not always going to create havoc all the time. And maybe I'm wrong here but I felt like the defensive line does a lot less stunts now than it used to and the pass rush was far more effective when they did a lot of stunting. To me if you're just going to rush 4 then you do have to mix in some stunts to at least put pressure on the offensive line and maybe cause some confusion on who they have to pick up and pass off.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#44 » by WentzerWuver » Sun Sep 15, 2024 12:25 pm

Jikkle wrote:I'm picking the 9ers to win but the Vikings game does have the makings for a possible upset.
Because you are so worried of Kyle's former coached up QB will beat you when Rodgers could not against the menacing 49ers pass rush? Lol

https://youtu.be/EW697mLDJQ4?si=xtH7X2SvqvxHEAE9

If the ghost passer has a better passer rating against Purdy this Sunday, it will be another reason why it's foolish to pay 60 mil per but since you have your rose petals on, it doesn't matter as long as he get his gucci bag instead of only 5 mil. Keep in mind, the Jets D is much better than the Vikings and its not even debatable. Even I know Purdy is the better QB here cause I am no fool but you are still worried the ghost passer, under pressure, might play better and win LMAO!!! Just snorted coffee up my nose ouchie that hurts!!!!

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2024/8/22/24225641/2024-nfl-defense-ranking-new-york-jets-cleveland-browns-baltimore-ravens
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#45 » by Big J » Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:14 pm

This season is starting to feel like a Super Bowl loss hangover year.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#46 » by CrimsonCrew » Sun Sep 15, 2024 10:10 pm

Kupp just left the Rams' game with an ankle injury. If he and Puka are out next week, we'd damn well better win that game. Though given how our defense looked against a team missing its three best playmakers - really four, as Aaron Jones was banged up at the end - we can't take any opponent for granted. And the Cards may suddenly be looking a lot more dangerous....
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#47 » by Jikkle » Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:31 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:Kupp just left the Rams' game with an ankle injury. If he and Puka are out next week, we'd damn well better win that game. Though given how our defense looked against a team missing its three best playmakers - really four, as Aaron Jones was banged up at the end - we can't take any opponent for granted. And the Cards may suddenly be looking a lot more dangerous....


Yeah I can already see us giving up a bunch of easy 3rd down conversions to a bunch of no names from the Rams.

We should win but Shanahan has always frustrated me with his teams just lacking that consistent sharpness to their play you would expect from a team that is in the SB mix.

He just seems good for like three Vikings type of games a year and it can be maddening because when he's on his game it's some of the best-executed football you'll see.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#48 » by Jikkle » Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:40 am

Didn't see it anywhere here but according to Rapoport the feeling is that CMC will need at least 6 weeks to recover.

Guess the good news as I've seen some different thoughts on it but his risk to rupture the Achillies is low and one doctor who commented on it is the risk is only like 4% to 10% greater. I think a lot of people confused tendonitis with tendinosis where I think the latter is the one where it's only a matter of time where it pops. Tendonitis can become tendinosis but I'm sure the kind of medical treatment CMC is getting they'll make sure it doesn't progress to that level.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#49 » by CrimsonCrew » Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:22 pm

Kupp confirmed out. Rams will be down both their top WRs, their top TE, and three of five of their season-starting OL. Though they will be getting back their actual starting LT from suspension.

No excuse to drop one to these guys. Almost a must-win game for us. Though definitely a must-win game for them.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#50 » by 49er4life1979 » Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:18 pm

Rams to be without Kupp against the Niners in addition to already missing Puka. Their OL is also banged up. Niners however will be without Deebo for a couple weeks due to calf strain Shanahan just announced. Sucks because he's really been playing well. Mr Hold Out needs to shake off the damn rust. Jennings and Kittle will obviously be featured more now. I would love to see youngsters like Bell and Cowing step up. Next man up let's go!
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#51 » by RIPskaterdude » Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:35 pm

This season feels a lot like the injury filled season in 2020....
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#52 » by WentzerWuver » Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:06 am

RIPskaterdude wrote:This season feels a lot like the injury filled season in 2020....
That's why most everyone wants Purdy to get his gucci bag, before he gets hurt again and out for the season. Then the backup will step in and guide this super team to the SB, just like Purdy did when JimmyG was out for the season. It makes sense to me :)
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#53 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:11 am

WentzerWuver wrote:
RIPskaterdude wrote:This season feels a lot like the injury filled season in 2020....
That's why most everyone wants Purdy to get his gucci bag, before he gets hurt again and out for the season. Then the backup will step in and guide this super team to the SB, just like Purdy did when JimmyG was out for the season. It makes sense to me :)


You're an idiot. The team isn't even allowed to extend Purdy this season.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#54 » by arich35 » Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:13 am

Deebo is out for at least 2 weeks with a calf.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#55 » by Big J » Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:19 am

49er4life1979 wrote:Rams to be without Kupp against the Niners in addition to already missing Puka. Their OL is also banged up. Niners however will be without Deebo for a couple weeks due to calf strain Shanahan just announced. Sucks because he's really been playing well. Mr Hold Out needs to shake off the damn rust. Jennings and Kittle will obviously be featured more now. I would love to see youngsters like Bell and Cowing step up. Next man up let's go!


Cohn has been raving about Cowing. Wouldn't be surprised if he's a stud.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#56 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:44 am

It will be interesting to see if Kyle trusts the rookie, especially after he muffed a point. Conley and Bell were both getting snaps ahead of him at receiver yesterday.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#57 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Sep 17, 2024 5:07 am

Eagles lose, too. Only four NFC teams are 2-0, and none of them the teams most would have had as the favorites in the division. Niners right in the mix if they can bounce back.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#58 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Sep 17, 2024 3:41 pm

A few bigger picture thoughts about the direction of the team two games in. The team as a whole was bad this past weekend, though credit the Vikings for coming out and playing a great game.

Ultimately, I think Shanahan bears a lot of responsibility for this one. He's got a team full of stars, but the attention to detail isn't there, and that's something we've seen consistently throughout his tenure. He is a great high-level coach, but the further you zoom in, the messier it seems to get. As someone else noted, that's kind of strange in a control freak. Shanahan can be extremely detailed in terms of offensive play design, etc., but in other areas, he is too lax, and his team is too.

Extremely curiously, and something I didn't notice while watching the game, we only ran three play-action passes. That is bizarre. This is an offense that is predicated on the play-action pass. It helps our offense at every level by giving the defense more things to think about. Especially when we're missing a versatile weapon like CMC, I would have expected more play action rather than less. Facing a young defense this week, I think we need to go back to more of that. And we need to lean on runs up the middle.

Along those lines, Shanahan has been going to more of a drop-back game through the end of last season and into the early part of this season. I read that as a sign that he trusts Purdy in a way that he did not trust Garoppolo. However, his offensive scheme for the drop-back game is not nearly as effective as it is for play action. JT O'Suillivan frequently harps on this in his videos. It's not always the same thing. Sometimes - like in the SB - the blocking scheme up front doesn't seem to mesh with the play call. Sometimes the route concepts are muddled. Things like seven-stop drops have largely gone out of vogue in the NFL in favor of shotgun (why get the ball under center and drop back that far if we don't have the threat of a run?), but we still use them with some regularity. This is an area where Shanahan MUST improve.

There may also be an issue with audibling that we saw in this game. The Vikings seemed to catch on to our approach to calling audibles. If the D is in a single-high look, we audible to a pass. But what happened at times this week was after our audible, the defense would switch alignments. They were basically dictating our play call with their alignments, and then would switch. I love that Shanahan is letting Purdy audible, but we can't be so predictable in our adjustments.

We've got to clean some of this stuff up immediately. Even with CMC and Deebo out, we still have a lot of talent on offense. Any team would love to have Kittle as their TE. Even rusty, Aiyuk is still an above-average WR. Jennings would be the #2 on a lot of teams. Although Trent struggled a bit this week, the introduction of Puni appears to have solidified the OL to a degree (really want to upgrade Brendel, but it's not likely to happen this year). There's just no excuse for this offense to be struggling so much. Ultimately, I put that on Kyle.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#59 » by Pattersonca65 » Tue Sep 17, 2024 4:04 pm

Big J wrote:
49er4life1979 wrote:Rams to be without Kupp against the Niners in addition to already missing Puka. Their OL is also banged up. Niners however will be without Deebo for a couple weeks due to calf strain Shanahan just announced. Sucks because he's really been playing well. Mr Hold Out needs to shake off the damn rust. Jennings and Kittle will obviously be featured more now. I would love to see youngsters like Bell and Cowing step up. Next man up let's go!


Cohn has been raving about Cowing. Wouldn't be surprised if he's a stud.


If Cohn is raving, he will probably amount to nothing
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#60 » by Pattersonca65 » Tue Sep 17, 2024 4:08 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:Kupp confirmed out. Rams will be down both their top WRs, their top TE, and three of five of their season-starting OL. Though they will be getting back their actual starting LT from suspension.

No excuse to drop one to these guys. Almost a must-win game for us. Though definitely a must-win game for them.


Deebo is out two weeks

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