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Onlytimewilltel wrote:All this because what some end of the bench scrub Tuscano said? Hah yikes. Who cares what he said man. I have literally never heard of anyone else saying anything about G league being the 2nd best in the world lol. Most folks here in the US don’t give a flying f*ck about the G league
Mirotic12 wrote:lambchop wrote:That's just your opinion on Malaga's roster because you think their players suck simply due to their salaries. Fact of the matter is that they were significantly better than Baskonia who made the Euroleague playoffs, missed the Spanish playoffs and spent more money in the process. That's cool for them, but they were still not nearly as good as Malaga. They also lost both regular season matchups against Malaga last season. Would have been cool to see them meet in the playoffs, but, unfortunately, Baskonia didn't even make it, while Malaga cruised.
And why are you comparing Malaga to Panathinaikos? Not even Real Madrid could handle them. It would be better to compare Malaga to Baskonia or other weaker Euroleague playoff teams.
It's not an opinion. It's an objective analytical reality. Malaga might be better than a few EuroLeague teams. That's it. They might maybe be better than four EuroLeague teams (Alba Berlin, Zalgris, ASVEL, Baskonia). They might arguably have the best roster in FIBA BCL, but even that's debatable (Tenerife Canarias, Murcia, Andorra, Promitheas). They might probably have a stronger roster than all but two teams in the EuroCup (Valencia, Hapoel Tel Aviv).
So that would mean that being generous, Malaga has somewhere around the 17th best roster in Europe. They are miles away from the level of top EuroLeague teams like Olympiacos, Barca, Real Madrid, Panathinaikos. This is not an opinion. This is a fact. Kendrick Perry is arguably the best player on Malaga's team. In the EuroLeague, he was often barely even playable.
In making this comparison that the representative from Europe was a team from the EuroLeague, Toscano-Anderson wasn't claiming they were playing against any random team. He was claiming that was the champions from EuroLeague. Which is actually Panathinaikos.
Claiming the G-League select team had better players than the "EuroLeague" team at the FIBA Intercontinental Cup, which would by default be the "EuroLeague champions" that the G-League select team was playing. No matter how you want to spin it, the actual EuroLeague champions are Panathinaikos, not Malaga. And Malaga wouldn't stand a snow ball's chance in hell of beating Panathinaikos in a playoff series.
Panathinaikos would have absolutely crushed that G-League team, probably by over 30 points. Malaga is a far worse team than Panathinaikos is, and Malaga didn't even play a good game. They played a pretty bad game actually for their normal standards, and they played without their first center and second power forward. And they won the game by 15 points, and it wasn't even really that close to be honest, because the G-League select team got some easy points right towards the very end of the game, when the outcome was already clearly decided.
If that was Panathinaikos, that the G-League select team was playing, it would have been a gigantic blowout. The point is, Toscano-Anderson's comments made it seem like they actually were playing against Panathinaikos, when they were not.
Can you imagine the outrage that would ensue in US sports media and US social media, if some player from Malaga, had made comments that made it seem like the G-League select team were the NBA champions, that a Malaga player claimed they beat the Boston Celtics? The rage would be enormous. And if someone argued that well, it's not that much of a difference, it's just semantics, they are teams of professional players from Northern America....
It doesn't work the other way either. Claiming a team from FIBA BCL are the EuroLeague champions, is just an outright insult to European basketball, and to argue that it's just a semantic difference between Malaga and Panathinaikos, is similar to if a Malaga player claimed that was the Boston Celtics they were playing.
wco81 wrote:G league is a developmental league. The key is to get certain prospects minutes and touches, regardless of how it affects winning.
Are they going to continue hosting prospects who are potential high lottery picks like Scoot and the Thompson twins or are they giving up on that experiment?
Just like Tatum is a top 5 player in the NBA and the best player on the NBA champions. But in international basketball, he's just a guy. Same thing with Lillard, one of the best guards in the NBA but he didn't do well in international basketball.
Mirotic12 wrote:Here's a clip of just Juan Toscano-Anderson's timeout comments. It's much easier to watch this, than to have to find the right time mark in the full game video.
Fairview4Life wrote:...I don't understand. You're mad about a guy trying to fire up his team and get them to play with confidence? In a team huddle during a game? Why should we care about this?
Mirotic12 wrote:Fairview4Life wrote:...I don't understand. You're mad about a guy trying to fire up his team and get them to play with confidence? In a team huddle during a game? Why should we care about this?
If a player from a European team said anything like that about the NBA and its players, US sports media and US social media would be on fire with rage, for days on end.
Fairview4Life wrote:Yes I'm sure if some other hypothetical situation happened and some other hypothetical people saw it they would hypothetically get mad. That doesn't explain why you think anyone should actually care about this. He was trying to hype up his team, get them confident and unafraid. This kind of thing is said all over the place every day in every sport.
Mirotic12 wrote:Fairview4Life wrote:Yes I'm sure if some other hypothetical situation happened and some other hypothetical people saw it they would hypothetically get mad. That doesn't explain why you think anyone should actually care about this. He was trying to hype up his team, get them confident and unafraid. This kind of thing is said all over the place every day in every sport.
He made statements to the international media before the tournament even began, that the G-League was the 2nd best league in the world and that they intended to show it and make a statement. Not remotely the same thing as merely trying to motivate your team.
IF the comments were JUST to motivate his team, no one would be talking about this. As it is, pretty much every single major sports media that covers basketball in Europe has been talking about it.
Fairview4Life wrote:Ok, then why post his speech in the huddle? Other than "yeah he's wrong", what's there to talk about? As I said initially, there's no reason to give a **** or be this desperate for attention from Americans. It's ok to just laugh at it.
Mirotic12 wrote:Fairview4Life wrote:Mirotic12 wrote:
He made statements to the international media before the tournament even began, that the G-League was the 2nd best league in the world and that they intended to show it and make a statement. Not remotely the same thing as merely trying to motivate your team.
IF the comments were JUST to motivate his team, no one would be talking about this. As it is, pretty much every single major sports media that covers basketball in Europe has been talking about it.
Ok, then why post his speech in the huddle? Other than "yeah he's wrong", what's there to talk about? As I said initially, there's no reason to give a **** or be this desperate for attention from Americans. It's ok to just laugh at it.
Again, if some player in Europe talked the same way about NBA players, it would cause massive outrage in the US's social media and sports media.
Fairview4Life wrote:Again, that didn't happen though. Making up a strawman to try and explain your own behaviour doesn't really make sense. What happened is someone no one gives a **** about said something overly confident pre tournament and then in a huddle in a timeout during a game to get his team motivated and apparently every sports media outlet in Europe is very angry. It's very dumb.
Mirotic12 wrote:Fairview4Life wrote:Mirotic12 wrote:
Again, if some player in Europe talked the same way about NBA players, it would cause massive outrage in the US's social media and sports media.
Again, that didn't happen though. Making up a strawman to try and explain your own behaviour doesn't really make sense. What happened is someone no one gives a **** about said something overly confident pre tournament and then in a huddle in a timeout during a game to get his team motivated and apparently every sports media outlet in Europe is very angry. It's very dumb.
So in other words, everyone that follows European basketball should be perfectly fine with such comments about it from any player...right. That's why in European sports media and social media, so many journalists, fans, and also players are pissed off about it...
Mirotic12 wrote:I've actually never seen such a large and negative reaction before from the European basketball community about anything.