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OT: Clinton or Bush?

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President?

Harris
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29%
Trump
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21%
RFK
3
11%
The Rock
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4%
Mark Cuban
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David Guetta Ft. Mark Ronson
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Michelle Obama
4
14%
Ron Desantis
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4%
Rik Smits
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18%
 
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#161 » by DOT » Wed Sep 18, 2024 1:23 pm

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Pointgod wrote:The state of American politics wouldn’t be where it is with Romney or McCain at the head of the party.

Not right now, no

But it would get to here eventually. Y'all gotta stop romanticizing Republican politicians as being mostly sane people, where we are now is a direct result of past Republican leadership and the choices they made. If Trump goes away, not much changes. Best case scenario is they revert back to the W. era types and we have 10-15 years before they go full mask-off again.


Yeah McCain was not some saint. He was better than the scum running the GOP now, but he had a lot of dirt on his resume all the same.

Let's not forget who let the crazies in the door. McCain made a conscious decision to choose Sarah Palin as his running mate. That was the beginning of the end of the GOP of the 80s-00s and the start of what would eventually become MAGA.

When John Boehner abruptly hauled ass in 2015, that was a cry for help. He knew what was happening, did enough to make Obama's life hell and then retired to the private sector knowing full well the party was about to burn the country down.

They're all complicit in Trump's rise and the fall of the GOP towards fascism

They always use that clip of McCain saying Obama is a good person as a sort of wholesome "look at how respectful Republicans used to be!"

But like, the accusation was "Obama is a Muslim". The answer is "well he isn't, but so what if he is?", cause if you answer "Obama is a Muslim" with "no, he's a good person", the implication is clearly that you can't be a good person if you're Muslim.
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#162 » by Stannis » Wed Sep 18, 2024 1:27 pm

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Yeah I saw that. That was nasty work by the Mossad. Those are the last guys on Earth you want hunting after you, you're probably better off getting beaten, kidnapped and taken to a CIA black site.

Imagine having one of those pagers in your pocket at the time of detonation

Some of those dudes got their crotches turned into meat craters. Not a good way to die


I think people are romanticizing this dirty work by the Mossad here. The 3,000 people severely wounded were not all Hezbollah members. 2 of the 12 deaths were children.

On another note, I think USA + West are losing the PR war here. We've been advised to stay away from Chinese hardware and software because they spy on us and steal our information. But now we have western hardware being planted with explosives. This isn't a good look, especially with all the sources and documentation.

Nothing about this seems "precision".

USA, Taiwan & Hungary (the latter 2 were part of the logistics trail) are already denying any work with the Mossad here. They don't want to be clumped into this mess.

EDIT: Looks like Lufthansa Group & Air France are cancelling flights due to pager scares.
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#163 » by Meat » Wed Sep 18, 2024 2:24 pm

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Clyde_Style wrote:If you want to see some wild espionage type stuff, Israel intercepted 3,000 pagers shipped from Taiwan to Hezbollah and implanted explosives in them. After they were distributed, they set them off and killed 11 Hezbollah and injured 2,700 of them. That's crazy


Yeah I saw that. That was nasty work by the Mossad. Those are the last guys on Earth you want hunting after you, you're probably better off getting beaten, kidnapped and taken to a CIA black site.

Imagine having one of those pagers in your pocket at the time of detonation

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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#164 » by St Knick » Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:11 pm

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Right here in my home county of Nassau. I'm attending this rally later today, along with thousand upon thousands of New Yorkers. How is this ok? And we (Trump supporters) get told WE are the terrorists?

THIS is the true threat to democracy. Using violence to silence and intimidate opponents.
Wake the **** up.
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#165 » by Worm Guts » Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:15 pm

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Right here in my home county of Nassau. I'm attending this rally later today, along with thousand upon thousands of New Yorkers. How is this ok? And we (Trump supporters) get told WE are the terrorists?

THIS is the true threat to democracy. Using violence to silence and intimidate opponents.
Wake the **** up.


Other people doing awful things doesn't make Trump less awful. He's still a threat to democracy.
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#166 » by St Knick » Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:20 pm

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Right here in my home county of Nassau. I'm attending this rally later today, along with thousand upon thousands of New Yorkers. How is this ok? And we (Trump supporters) get told WE are the terrorists?

THIS is the true threat to democracy. Using violence to silence and intimidate opponents.
Wake the **** up.


Other people doing awful things doesn't make Trump less awful. He's still a threat to democracy.


would you say the same thing if there were 2 assassination attempts on Kamala Harris and bombs found at one of her rally's?

Trick question, because we (the "right") don't resort to cowardly tactics and will take it to the polls.
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#167 » by Worm Guts » Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:22 pm

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Right here in my home county of Nassau. I'm attending this rally later today, along with thousand upon thousands of New Yorkers. How is this ok? And we (Trump supporters) get told WE are the terrorists?

THIS is the true threat to democracy. Using violence to silence and intimidate opponents.
Wake the **** up.


Other people doing awful things doesn't make Trump less awful. He's still a threat to democracy.


would you say the same thing if there were 2 assassination attempts on Kamala Harris and bombs found at one of her rally's? I doubt it


I don't think Kamala Harris is awful and a threat democracy, so no, I wouldn't say the same thing.
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#168 » by spree8 » Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:26 pm

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Right here in my home county of Nassau. I'm attending this rally later today, along with thousand upon thousands of New Yorkers. How is this ok? And we (Trump supporters) get told WE are the terrorists?

THIS is the true threat to democracy. Using violence to silence and intimidate opponents.
Wake the **** up.



Yo that’s insane! This obviously isn’t over. I can only imagine what else happens by Election Day. Even if he wins, I feel this will be an all the time thing.

I need to make sure to keep tabs on his rally and golf schedule (I live in SoFlo) to ensure I’m at least a few towns away to avoid being a casualty if they’re using bombs now.
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#169 » by DOT » Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:30 pm

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Other people doing awful things doesn't make Trump less awful. He's still a threat to democracy.


would you say the same thing if there were 2 assassination attempts on Kamala Harris and bombs found at one of her rally's? I doubt it


I don't think Kamala Harris is awful and a threat democracy, so no, I wouldn't say the same thing.

Also:

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-rally-suspicious-occurrence-long-island-ny-1955749

"We did respond to a suspicious occurrence in the vicinity of the Nassau Coliseum, however there was no validity of an explosive device being found," a public information officer told Newsweek after a report about an explosive device at the rally site circulated online.

The officer added, "we're unsure where this information originated, but we can confirm that no explosives were discovered."


I don't get why they have to just lie like that. It really undercuts the truth if they're ever right, but that's how these people operate. Just like JD making up stories about Haitians eating pets.
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#170 » by Meat » Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:30 pm

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Right here in my home county of Nassau. I'm attending this rally later today, along with thousand upon thousands of New Yorkers. How is this ok? And we (Trump supporters) get told WE are the terrorists?

THIS is the true threat to democracy. Using violence to silence and intimidate opponents.
Wake the **** up.


Other people doing awful things doesn't make Trump less awful. He's still a threat to democracy.


would you say the same thing if there were 2 assassination attempts on Kamala Harris and bombs found at one of her rally's?

Trick question, because we (the "right") don't resort to cowardly tactics and will take it to the polls.
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#171 » by Meat » Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:32 pm

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Right here in my home county of Nassau. I'm attending this rally later today, along with thousand upon thousands of New Yorkers. How is this ok? And we (Trump supporters) get told WE are the terrorists?

THIS is the true threat to democracy. Using violence to silence and intimidate opponents.
Wake the **** up.


Other people doing awful things doesn't make Trump less awful. He's still a threat to democracy.


would you say the same thing if there were 2 assassination attempts on Kamala Harris and bombs found at one of her rally's?

Trick question, because we (the "right") don't resort to cowardly tactics and will take it to the polls.
Disgusting

Didn't y'all drive into a group of protesters in Charlottesville
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#172 » by Meat » Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:33 pm

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Right here in my home county of Nassau. I'm attending this rally later today, along with thousand upon thousands of New Yorkers. How is this ok? And we (Trump supporters) get told WE are the terrorists?

THIS is the true threat to democracy. Using violence to silence and intimidate opponents.
Wake the **** up.


Other people doing awful things doesn't make Trump less awful. He's still a threat to democracy.


would you say the same thing if there were 2 assassination attempts on Kamala Harris and bombs found at one of her rally's?

Trick question, because we (the "right") don't resort to cowardly tactics and will take it to the polls.
Disgusting

Didn't y'all invent the Obama not being American because y'all cant understand non whites can be American too
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#173 » by St Knick » Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:34 pm

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Right here in my home county of Nassau. I'm attending this rally later today, along with thousand upon thousands of New Yorkers. How is this ok? And we (Trump supporters) get told WE are the terrorists?

THIS is the true threat to democracy. Using violence to silence and intimidate opponents.
Wake the **** up.



Yo that’s insane! This obviously isn’t over. I can only imagine what else happens by Election Day. Even if he wins, I feel this will be an all the time thing.

I need to make sure to keep tabs on his rally and golf schedule to ensure I’m at least a few towns away to avoid being a casualty if they’re using bombs now.


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Sad you have to even say that. Nonetheless, not cowering to terrorist threats. I'll be joining the MASSIVE (or as Trump would say, "HUUUUUGE!") crowds of new yorkers who are tired of all the BS and gaslighting of the last 3.5 years.

Thousand upon thousand at Nassau colliseum AT NINE IN THE MORNING! Only see that with Kamala crowds if she's piggybacking off a concert, bussing paid people in, or using AI to phony up some pics for online.
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#174 » by Meat » Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:35 pm

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Right here in my home county of Nassau. I'm attending this rally later today, along with thousand upon thousands of New Yorkers. How is this ok? And we (Trump supporters) get told WE are the terrorists?

THIS is the true threat to democracy. Using violence to silence and intimidate opponents.
Wake the **** up.


Other people doing awful things doesn't make Trump less awful. He's still a threat to democracy.


would you say the same thing if there were 2 assassination attempts on Kamala Harris and bombs found at one of her rally's?

Trick question, because we (the "right") don't resort to cowardly tactics and will take it to the polls.
Disgusting

Aren't yall currently coming for Kamala because y'all cant understand being bi-racial?
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#175 » by j4remi » Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:43 pm

St Knick wrote:would you say the same thing if there were 2 assassination attempts on Kamala Harris and bombs found at one of her rally's?

Trick question, because we (the "right") don't resort to cowardly tactics and will take it to the polls.
Disgusting


Springfield's been inundated with bomb threats over JD Vance and Trump's lies about the Haitian population...
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#176 » by DOT » Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:48 pm

j4remi wrote:
St Knick wrote:would you say the same thing if there were 2 assassination attempts on Kamala Harris and bombs found at one of her rally's?

Trick question, because we (the "right") don't resort to cowardly tactics and will take it to the polls.
Disgusting


Springfield's been inundated with bomb threats over JD Vance and Trump's lies about the Haitian population...

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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#177 » by DOT » Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:51 pm

DOT wrote:
j4remi wrote:
St Knick wrote:would you say the same thing if there were 2 assassination attempts on Kamala Harris and bombs found at one of her rally's?

Trick question, because we (the "right") don't resort to cowardly tactics and will take it to the polls.
Disgusting


Springfield's been inundated with bomb threats over JD Vance and Trump's lies about the Haitian population...

Also

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Also

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretchen_Whitmer_kidnapping_plot
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#178 » by St Knick » Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:53 pm

j4remi wrote:
St Knick wrote:would you say the same thing if there were 2 assassination attempts on Kamala Harris and bombs found at one of her rally's?

Trick question, because we (the "right") don't resort to cowardly tactics and will take it to the polls.
Disgusting


Springfield's been inundated with bomb threats over JD Vance and Trump's lies about the Haitian population...


This has been debunked as Russian hoax, By Ohio's own mayor, but I'm sure you knew that! Way to parrot more BS headlines from the left.

https://myfox28columbus.com/news/local/springfield-ohio-mayor-rob-rue-haitian-immigrants-eating-pets-cats-dogs-stealing-geese-death-threats-downtown-columbus-statehouse-donald-trump-jd-vance
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#179 » by DOT » Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:55 pm

DOT wrote:
DOT wrote:
j4remi wrote:
Springfield's been inundated with bomb threats over JD Vance and Trump's lies about the Haitian population...

Also

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Also

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretchen_Whitmer_kidnapping_plot

Also

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/05/13/kandula-pleads-guilty-uhaul-white-house/

The Secret Service said Kandula backed up the U-Haul and drove it into the bollards a second time before climbing out of the truck and unfurling a flag with a Nazi swastika.

When agents questioned him, Kandula reported that he had been planning his journey for six months, according to a detention memo filed by federal prosecutors. Kandula allegedly said that his goal was to “get to the White House, seize power, and be put in charge of the nation.”

Asked how this might work, Kandula reportedly replied, “Kill the president if that’s what I have to do and would hurt anyone that would stand in my way.” Asked about his flag, Kandula is said to have answered that “Nazis have a great history” and that he admired their authoritarian nature. He said he looked up to Adolf Hitler “because he was a strong leader,” according to the memo from Assistant U.S. Attorney Alexander R. Schneider.
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Re: OT: 2nd Trump assassination attempt 

Post#180 » by j4remi » Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:56 pm

DOT wrote:
j4remi wrote:
St Knick wrote:would you say the same thing if there were 2 assassination attempts on Kamala Harris and bombs found at one of her rally's?

Trick question, because we (the "right") don't resort to cowardly tactics and will take it to the polls.
Disgusting


Springfield's been inundated with bomb threats over JD Vance and Trump's lies about the Haitian population...

Also

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On that note:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/18/trump-election-georgia

Emails obtained by the Guardian reveal a behind-the-scenes network of county election officials throughout Georgia coordinating on policy and messaging to both call the results of November’s election into question before a single vote is cast, and push rules and procedures favored by the election denial movement.

The emails were obtained by the watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (Crew) as a result of a public records request sent to David Hancock, an election denier and member of the Gwinnett county board of elections. Crew shared the emails with the Guardian.

Spanning a period beginning in January, the communications expose the inner workings of a group that includes some of the most ardent supporters of the former president Donald Trump’s election lies as well as ongoing efforts to portray the coming election as beset with fraud. Included in the communications are agendas for meetings and efforts to coordinate on policies and messaging as the swing state has once again become a focal point of the presidential campaign.
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