OT: Clinton or Bush?

[Knick4Real]

In 2011:

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/03/31/man-who-shot-at-white-house-sentenced-to-25-years



Gee, I wonder where he got that from...

The worst part about this incident is, the SS completely brushed it off and didn't investigate until after the Obamas got back and Michelle was informed of it. They just shrugged and went "nothing to see here"

Talk about malpractice.

It kind of seems like the secret service might not be all that great. There's also the dude who took it to the polls hit Nancy Pelosi's husband with a hammer. Or this guy from a month ago - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/virginia-man-charged-threatening-kill-kamala-harris-rcna165280

The Secret Service has been compromised for awhile now. I'm still not sure why SS agents who erased their cell phone messages after January 6th weren't all rounded up for questioning by the Justice Department because it's clearly obvious that some of them were all in on it, which is why Mike Pence refused to get into a car with anyone but his own detail.

This isn't over.

There are clearly holes in the SS. The past 2 events prove it. Even getting rid of the last head of the organization didn't really help. However, they can't admit it -- at least publicly. Part of their success is the intimidation factor and the widespread belief that they're deadly and infallible.

It's like the big guy who people are scared to go up against because he looks intimidating -- when the reality is he's not all that good of a fighter.

[MrDollarBills]

Double post

[spree8]

if we had taken away the guns.

No matter how many times you post that all across Realgm, it won’t come true lol, both sides own guns.. hate to break it to you

[Stannis]

Right. It's kinda crazy how people took that to be a good thing, but then I remember how vile people were towards Muslims during that decade due to 9-11.

The vileness has not gone away.

Watch on YouTube

[omerome]

if we had taken away the guns.

No matter how many times you post that all across Realgm, it won’t come true lol, both sides own guns.. hate to break it to you

We are very much aware of that. The point is, that we're the only country on the planet that seem to have an issue with guns. Other countries are not having school shootings every week to the point that many people are desensitized to it.

Why is it only in the US that after witnessing so many killings involving guns nothing still gets done? To me, the answer is that a lot of people seem to care more about their guns than actual human lives. And no, I don't care about their thoughts and prayers.

[MrDollarBills]

It kind of seems like the secret service might not be all that great. There's also the dude who took it to the polls hit Nancy Pelosi's husband with a hammer. Or this guy from a month ago - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/virginia-man-charged-threatening-kill-kamala-harris-rcna165280

The Secret Service has been compromised for awhile now. I'm still not sure why SS agents who erased their cell phone messages after January 6th weren't all rounded up for questioning by the Justice Department because it's clearly obvious that some of them were all in on it, which is why Mike Pence refused to get into a car with anyone but his own detail.

This isn't over.

There are clearly holes in the SS. The past 2 events prove it. Even getting rid of the last head of the organization didn't really help. However, they can't admit it -- at least publicly. Part of their success is the intimidation factor and the widespread belief that they're deadly and infallible.

It's like the big guy who people are scared to go up against because he looks intimidating -- when the reality is he's not all that good of a fighter.

The lady who was director of the SS made it clear to me that they are clearly not only compromised, but incompetent to boot. I hope Harris and Walz have vetted their details carefully

[spree8]

if we had taken away the guns.

No matter how many times you post that all across Realgm, it won’t come true lol, both sides own guns.. hate to break it to you

We are very much aware of that. The point is, that we're the only country on the planet that seem to have an issue with guns. Other countries are not having school shootings every week to the point that many people are desensitized to it.

Why is it only in the US that after witnessing so many killings involving guns nothing still gets done? To me, the answer is that a lot of people seem to care more about their guns than actual human lives. And no, I don't care about their thoughts and prayers.

DOT isn’t aware of that. He doesn’t understand other countries have guns too and don’t have these issues. His stance is it’s 100% guns, get rid of them all.

[MrDollarBills]

The Left - the side of civility, joy and democracy

Sad you have to even say that. Nonetheless, not cowering to terrorist threats. I'll be joining the MASSIVE (or as Trump would say, "HUUUUUGE!") crowds of new yorkers who are tired of all the BS and gaslighting of the last 3.5 years.

Thousand upon thousand at Nassau colliseum AT NINE IN THE MORNING! Only see that with Kamala crowds if she's piggybacking off a concert, bussing paid people in, or using AI to phony up some pics for online.

We really need to stop the "Us vs Them" talk. We're all Americans.

However, we also need to start owning up to fault and stop going on the defensive and dividing ourselves by political parties to protect those who are in the wrong.

Yep. This shouldn't be treated like a team sport, we're all Americans here.

Also, call it out. If Biden did some crazy sh*t I'm not going to defend him just because I lean towards the left politically.

I was absolutely disgusted that the DNC invited Bill Clinton to speak. I don't like pro Palestinian voices being silenced. We can multitask here.

[DOT]

if we had taken away the guns.

No matter how many times you post that all across Realgm, it won’t come true lol, both sides own guns.. hate to break it to you

We are very much aware of that. The point is, that we're the only country on the planet that seem to have an issue with guns. Other countries are not having school shootings every week to the point that many people are desensitized to it.

Why is it only in the US that after witnessing so many killings involving guns nothing still gets done? To me, the answer is that a lot of people seem to care more about their guns than actual human lives. And no, I don't care about their thoughts and prayers.

Trying to explain a position to a troll is a waste of time honestly. You really shouldn't even try

Dude is following me around different boards trying to get a reaction. Weirdo behavior.

[MrDollarBills]

Right. It's kinda crazy how people took that to be a good thing, but then I remember how vile people were towards Muslims during that decade due to 9-11.

The vileness has not gone away.

Watch on YouTube

Kennedy is a fraud and a racist. He needs to take his own advice and unalive himself if he thinks that what he said to that woman was remotely acceptable

[MrDollarBills]

We really need to stop the "Us vs Them" talk. We're all Americans.

Someone should tell that to JD Vance

https://www.alternet.org/jd-vance-civil-war/

American history is a constant war between Northern Yankees and Southern Bourbons, where whichever side the hillbillies are on, wins," Vance said." And that’s kind of how I think about American politics today, is like, the Northern Yankees are now the hyper-woke, coastal elites. The Southern Bourbons are sort of the same old-school Southern folks that have been around and influential in this country for 200 years. And it’s like the hillbillies have really started to migrate towards the Southern Bourbons instead of the Northern woke people. That’s just a fundamental thing that’s happening in American politics.

The same JD Vance who has his balls in a vice grip, possibly quite literally, by coastal elite tech bro/racist/fascist Peter Thiel? Interesting.

Also, Ohio wasn't a part of The Confederacy, but I'm sure he knows that...

[spree8]

No matter how many times you post that all across Realgm, it won’t come true lol, both sides own guns.. hate to break it to you

We are very much aware of that. The point is, that we're the only country on the planet that seem to have an issue with guns. Other countries are not having school shootings every week to the point that many people are desensitized to it.

Why is it only in the US that after witnessing so many killings involving guns nothing still gets done? To me, the answer is that a lot of people seem to care more about their guns than actual human lives. And no, I don't care about their thoughts and prayers.

Trying to explain a position to a troll is a waste of time honestly. You really shouldn't even try

Dude is following me around different boards trying to get a reaction. Weirdo behavior.

LMAO, hold that thought, I’m about to compile a page of quotes of DOT literally stalking me. Psycho comic guy



Dude stays on my jock…

In the past day alone across two different boards…

[St Knick]

We are very much aware of that. The point is, that we're the only country on the planet that seem to have an issue with guns. Other countries are not having school shootings every week to the point that many people are desensitized to it.

Why is it only in the US that after witnessing so many killings involving guns nothing still gets done? To me, the answer is that a lot of people seem to care more about their guns than actual human lives. And no, I don't care about their thoughts and prayers.

Trying to explain a position to a troll is a waste of time honestly. You really shouldn't even try

Dude is following me around different boards trying to get a reaction. Weirdo behavior.

LMAO, hold that thought, I’m about to compile a page of quotes of DOT literally stalking me. Psycho comic guy

DOT aka Comic book guy
https://uproxx.com/tv/simpsons-real-comic-book-guy/

[Ma10]

I don't actually wish death on anyone, but this inhumane wanker deserves nothing less. With so many Americans with so many weapons, there has to be someone who can put an end to it all!

[omerome]

Right. It's kinda crazy how people took that to be a good thing, but then I remember how vile people were towards Muslims during that decade due to 9-11.

The vileness has not gone away.

Watch on YouTube

The sad part is, as disgusting of a person he is, he's not even the worst of the GOP.

[spree8]

Trying to explain a position to a troll is a waste of time honestly. You really shouldn't even try

Dude is following me around different boards trying to get a reaction. Weirdo behavior.

LMAO, hold that thought, I’m about to compile a page of quotes of DOT literally stalking me. Psycho comic guy

DOT aka Comic book guy
https://uproxx.com/tv/simpsons-real-comic-book-guy/

lol

[St Knick]

I don't actually wish death on anyone, but this inhumane wanker deserves nothing less. With so many Americans with so many weapons, there has to be someone who can put an end to it all!

YOU are the danger

[DOT]

I hope Trump lives a long life and continues to run and lose until the day he dies

Dude could single-handedly destroy the Republican Party for decades, I'm seriously rooting for him here. His heart has to be the hardest-working organ in America right now, that thing is a champ.

[Capn'O]

If that motherfcker is a CIA asset I'd hate to see their liabilities.

If there's any conspiracy going on with these jabronis it's one that is designed to make people view him in a better light. Because, again, if the US government tried to kill Trump they would have easily succeeded.

[Pointgod]

Not right now, no

But it would get to here eventually. Y'all gotta stop romanticizing Republican politicians as being mostly sane people, where we are now is a direct result of past Republican leadership and the choices they made. If Trump goes away, not much changes. Best case scenario is they revert back to the W. era types and we have 10-15 years before they go full mask-off again.

This isn’t about romanticizing Republicans, I know it’s a very low bar to clear but at some point you have to admit politics as a whole is better off with a Republican leader of the party who isn’t a:

1. Insurrectionist that wants to terminate the constitution
2. A traitor to the country
3. Someone who directs political violence at anyone who speaks stands up to him
4. Someone who’s rhetoric directly echoes Hitler
5. Someone who would lead racist attacks against his own citizens

The reality is that the way the country is setup and polarized there will never be a 60/40 split of Democrats and everyone else. At some point everyone needs to recognize the unique threat that Trump presents. Continue to criticize Republicans for their racisms, horrible policies and enablement of Trump. But the country will collapse eventually if you have a President and leader of a party that incites people to kill anyone that doesn’t bow down to him.

But there's been groundwork to lead to a "Trump" leading the party for decades. The Brooks Brothers Riot was straight up election interference. People who questioned Dubya's decision to invade Iraq were threatened and shunned. Trump's birther conspiracies started while Obama was president, and during Obama's presidency DHS was already warning about the growth and threat of rightwing white supremacist militias.

I agree that Trump's a unique figure in American politics so far. But I'd argue that the Republicans were headed in the direction of a Trump for a very long time (arguably starting right at the Southern Switch).

I get what you’re saying but there’s a significant difference when the President is directing and co-signing all of this. I don’t think that after 8 years of a Jeb Bush Presidency that America would be close to falling as a Democracy than after 4 years of Trump. Again you could be right that this was inevitable but I have a hard time believing that Jeb Bush tries to get his VP killed because he didn’t overturn an election