The Washington Commanders Thread

[tontoz]

Multiple red zone false starts in your own stadium is incompetence. 7 field goals to beat a terrible tanking tier Giants team is incompetence.

The issue with yardage is we've seen this franchise (particularly in the Cousins era) move the ball and then just not score at all in the red zone. It's not a thing that you "inevitably" break through. We've seen it be a thing for entire seasons. And we've seen competent combinations (Gruden, Cousins) struggle to break through it.

So when I see a Kingsbury offense showing similar failings, I don't think as if improvement is inevitable. That's the thing about the NFL. Improvement isn't inevitable. You look at a lot of coach/QB combinations and sometimes their best years were year 1/2. Elite combinations will stick together long enough to improve, but mediocre to bad ones tend to get fired or replaced pretty quickly.

That's not to say that's the case with our guys. I'm just saying we need to get better fast. Real fast. More touchdowns next week.

That's PTSD talking. Given all the mgt/roster turnover it isn't realistic to expect everything to be going smoothly from the jump.

Guys jumping offsides is not a difficult problem to correct.

[TGW]

Multiple red zone false starts in your own stadium is incompetence. 7 field goals to beat a terrible tanking tier Giants team is incompetence.

The issue with yardage is we've seen this franchise (particularly in the Cousins era) move the ball and then just not score at all in the red zone. It's not a thing that you "inevitably" break through. We've seen it be a thing for entire seasons. And we've seen competent combinations (Gruden, Cousins) struggle to break through it.

So when I see a Kingsbury offense showing similar failings, I don't think as if improvement is inevitable. That's the thing about the NFL. Improvement isn't inevitable. You look at a lot of coach/QB combinations and sometimes their best years were year 1/2. Elite combinations will stick together long enough to improve, but mediocre to bad ones tend to get fired or replaced pretty quickly.

That's not to say that's the case with our guys. I'm just saying we need to get better fast. Real fast. More touchdowns next week.

This x100. Yesterday wasn't some breakthrough performance that they can build off of (the local media is trying to make it sound that way though).

Yesterday was another showing of incompetence. Right now, I'm going to put most of the blame on the players since most of the culprits are RR leftovers, but the o-line getting 5 penalties in the RZ reaks of previous fired coaches. The defense is....pathetic. Daniel Jones was quite literally staring Nabers down on every passing play in the 4th quarter, and they still couldn't stop it. Embarassing.

I'm also not seeing how Klingsbury is better than Bienemy. They run virtually the same type of offense (spread, everything from the gun, receiver screens, etc) but at least Klingsbury has Daniels.

[Kanyewest]

Baby steps I suppose. Washington didn't beat the Giants last year. Daniel Jones has only lost once to Washington prior to this back in 2021.

If you want to play devil's advocate that the Giants are not terrible, the Vikings who blew out the Giants in week 1, may actually be good (at least they were when their wideouts were healthy)- as they beat the 49ers in week 2. Although I don't think the Giants are going to be favored in the next month in their upcoming schedule (Browns, Cowboys, Seahawks, Bengals, Eagles, Steelers).

[Endless Loop]

Even Gibbs- all-time great- started 0-5.

New offense, new staff, new players. It'll take time. There should be week to week improvement, and there was.

It just feels so good that there's a competent regime in town.

[tontoz]

Through 2 games Daniels has 26 carries and 53 passes without a turnover.

[Rafael122]

Multiple red zone false starts in your own stadium is incompetence. 7 field goals to beat a terrible tanking tier Giants team is incompetence.

The issue with yardage is we've seen this franchise (particularly in the Cousins era) move the ball and then just not score at all in the red zone. It's not a thing that you "inevitably" break through. We've seen it be a thing for entire seasons. And we've seen competent combinations (Gruden, Cousins) struggle to break through it.

So when I see a Kingsbury offense showing similar failings, I don't think as if improvement is inevitable. That's the thing about the NFL. Improvement isn't inevitable. You look at a lot of coach/QB combinations and sometimes their best years were year 1/2. Elite combinations will stick together long enough to improve, but mediocre to bad ones tend to get fired or replaced pretty quickly.

That's not to say that's the case with our guys. I'm just saying we need to get better fast. Real fast. More touchdowns next week.

This x100. Yesterday wasn't some breakthrough performance that they can build off of (the local media is trying to make it sound that way though).

Yesterday was another showing of incompetence. Right now, I'm going to put most of the blame on the players since most of the culprits are RR leftovers, but the o-line getting 5 penalties in the RZ reaks of previous fired coaches. The defense is....pathetic. Daniel Jones was quite literally staring Nabers down on every passing play in the 4th quarter, and they still couldn't stop it. Embarassing.

I'm also not seeing how Klingsbury is better than Bienemy. They run virtually the same type of offense (spread, everything from the gun, receiver screens, etc) but at least Klingsbury has Daniels.

I hate playing the what if game but the game could have completely gone both ways. Meaning, if Gano didn't get hurt, the Giants probably would have had an easier time and would have won the game if everything else stayed the same.

For us though, we had what 5 red zone trips? If we scored a TD on 2 of those drives, the game also would have been different.

[DCZards]

Multiple red zone false starts in your own stadium is incompetence. 7 field goals to beat a terrible tanking tier Giants team is incompetence.

The issue with yardage is we've seen this franchise (particularly in the Cousins era) move the ball and then just not score at all in the red zone. It's not a thing that you "inevitably" break through. We've seen it be a thing for entire seasons. And we've seen competent combinations (Gruden, Cousins) struggle to break through it.

So when I see a Kingsbury offense showing similar failings, I don't think as if improvement is inevitable. That's the thing about the NFL. Improvement isn't inevitable. You look at a lot of coach/QB combinations and sometimes their best years were year 1/2. Elite combinations will stick together long enough to improve, but mediocre to bad ones tend to get fired or replaced pretty quickly.

That's not to say that's the case with our guys. I'm just saying we need to get better fast. Real fast. More touchdowns next week.

This x100. Yesterday wasn't some breakthrough performance that they can build off of (the local media is trying to make it sound that way though).

Yesterday was another showing of incompetence. Right now, I'm going to put most of the blame on the players since most of the culprits are RR leftovers, but the o-line getting 5 penalties in the RZ reaks of previous fired coaches. The defense is....pathetic. Daniel Jones was quite literally staring Nabers down on every passing play in the 4th quarter, and they still couldn't stop it. Embarassing.

I'm also not seeing how Klingsbury is better than Bienemy. They run virtually the same type of offense (spread, everything from the gun, receiver screens, etc) but at least Klingsbury has Daniels.

Klingsbury is better than Bienemy in that he actually calls running plays and knows that BRob is a top weapon.

Wasn’t happy with not scoring TDs. But can’t agree with the assessment that this is somehow a long term problem when you have QB playing in his second game ever and a lot of other new pieces.

Can’t see linking the present situation with what has happened in the past.

[TGW]

Multiple red zone false starts in your own stadium is incompetence. 7 field goals to beat a terrible tanking tier Giants team is incompetence.

The issue with yardage is we've seen this franchise (particularly in the Cousins era) move the ball and then just not score at all in the red zone. It's not a thing that you "inevitably" break through. We've seen it be a thing for entire seasons. And we've seen competent combinations (Gruden, Cousins) struggle to break through it.

So when I see a Kingsbury offense showing similar failings, I don't think as if improvement is inevitable. That's the thing about the NFL. Improvement isn't inevitable. You look at a lot of coach/QB combinations and sometimes their best years were year 1/2. Elite combinations will stick together long enough to improve, but mediocre to bad ones tend to get fired or replaced pretty quickly.

That's not to say that's the case with our guys. I'm just saying we need to get better fast. Real fast. More touchdowns next week.

This x100. Yesterday wasn't some breakthrough performance that they can build off of (the local media is trying to make it sound that way though).

Yesterday was another showing of incompetence. Right now, I'm going to put most of the blame on the players since most of the culprits are RR leftovers, but the o-line getting 5 penalties in the RZ reaks of previous fired coaches. The defense is....pathetic. Daniel Jones was quite literally staring Nabers down on every passing play in the 4th quarter, and they still couldn't stop it. Embarassing.

I'm also not seeing how Klingsbury is better than Bienemy. They run virtually the same type of offense (spread, everything from the gun, receiver screens, etc) but at least Klingsbury has Daniels.

Klingsbury is better than Bienemy in that he actually calls running plays and knows that BRob is a top weapon.

Wasn’t happy with not scoring TDs. But can’t agree with the assessment that this is somehow a long term problem when you have QB playing in his second game ever and a lot of other new pieces.

Can’t see linking the present situation with what has happened in the past.

I mean sure you can't Zards. You always take the glass half full approach...and no offense, but you're usually wrong. It's okay to have the kool aid, but I've seen way too much bad football to know what it looks like, and yesterday was bad football. They were HIGHLY fortunate to win against at home against arguably the worst team in the league (next to maybe Carolina and Washington). If the Giants didn't lose their kicker and Nabors doesn't drop the 4th & 4, the tune would be different this morning.

[tontoz]

We outgained them by over 100 yards and dominated time of possession, 37 minutes to 22. Lets not forget that the touchdown on the opening return was called back due to a penalty. I think we were decisively better aside from the penalties.

[DCZards]

I mean sure you can't Zards. You always take the glass half full approach...and no offense, but you're usually wrong. It's okay to have the kool aid, but I've seen way too much bad football to know what it looks like, and yesterday was bad football. They were HIGHLY fortunate to win against at home against arguably the worst team in the league (next to maybe Carolina and Washington). If the Giants didn't lose their kicker and Nabors doesn't drop the 4th & 4, the tune would be different this morning.

Good to see you're in good form, Eeyore, regardless of the sport.

[Rafael122]

I'm going with the idea that a lot of this is by design, short passes, screens because JD is a rookie at the end of the day and we're not opening up the entire playbook yet. I will say, if we're at mid to the end of October and the offense is still looking similar, then I have some concerns. In reading a lot about Daniels in the offseason, football IQ or lack thereof never came up so we'll see what happens.

[Kanyewest]

1st in the NFC East.

[9 and 20]

I have a very hard time not seeing RGIV out there. Hopefully the fun lasts a little longer this time around.

[TGW]

I have a very hard time not seeing RGIV out there. Hopefully the fun lasts a little longer this time around.

Lol yea. Especially the inability to slide. He got a small taste sunday from a team that isn't known for their physicality.

But I will say that Daniels reads defenses better and has a little more patience than RG3 had in his rookie year. I'm still waiting for this deep ball that everyone was raving about during training camp.

[tontoz]

I don't know what this stat is but it doesn't look good.

Read on Twitter

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[tontoz]

Good breakdown of some pass plays.

Watch on YouTube

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[Zonkerbl]

Omg my new team is playing my old team eeeeeeee! Bengals are desperate for a win and mad as hell.

[gambitx777]

I was wrong about Brock Bowers

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[Zonkerbl]

Well, crap

[tontoz]