Week 2 Game thread

[Jaydubb]

Some people say that should’ve been their 4th down call and on 3rd down they should’ve ran up the middle. I don’t necessarily disagree with that. If we wanna get nit picky then I’d say run saquon up the middle on 3rd down even though the falcons were selling out for it. It would take an extra 40 seconds off the clock. Then on 4th down you either kick it, or do the tush push.

Regardless, if saquon caught the ball people would be saying that was a great play call because it’d essentially end the game, but because he dropped it people hate the call. But really, should we hate the play call or the execution of the play? People don’t want to call out saquon because he’s been great so far but that was a bad play on his part in a very key moment. I’m sure he’d say the same. Just like Jalen hurts throwing the ball across his body 35 yards or so down field when they only need about 15 yards is a bad play on his part in a key moment of the game. Yea they were both great besides those two plays, but those plays in key moments stick out like a sore thumb.

The risk of an incompletion, and stopping the clock is why that was a bad call (even if he made the catch). It was a huge unnecessary risk. Just run the ball with Barkley (who couldn’t be stopped all game). The Eagles would have controlled the rest of clock and have the chance for a walk off FG. Atlanta wouldn’t have had a chance at all at any kind of comeback.

Again, it’s early in a season and Eagles fans are still very optimistic about Kellen Moore, I understand that. But also again, I’ll check back in with yall around Thanksgiving to see how Kellen Moore is working out for you.

I know you’re gonna be against all eagles offensive play calling this year, but fact is if this happened last year where AJ Brown wasn’t able to play, the Eagles offense would be completely stagnant and they might score maybe three points.

So to answer your revolving question this year, no Eagle fans should not be upset with Kellen Moore right now. There’s issues for sure but I wouldn’t say offensive play calling is at the top of the list, at least not right now.

[WentzerWuver]

The eagles made plenty of mistakes. I don’t know if anybody can single out a specific player. There was absolutely no pass rush which I would say is the biggest issue on defense right now. The drop by saquon Barkley did hurt for sure, catch that ball and the eagles chances of winning sky rocket but he also made plays that put the eagles in a position to win so singling out 1 play doesn’t make sense in my opinion. The pass at the end by Jalen hurts was really bad tho. That wasn’t even needed to be honest, felt forced. Really they only needed about 15 yards to get into Jake Elliot’s range. Throwing the ball 30 yards down field was a bad decision.

Chances of winning sky rockets?!? Lol had Saquon caught the easiest catch in his career for a 1st down, all they need to do is kneel the ball to win the game since they only had one timeout left but due to his butterfingers at the worst time possible, it also stopped the clock! So blaming ANY qb with 20s so secs left along with a defense expecting pass, picks are most likely to occur in situations exactly like this when the qb are forcing plays with time running out. And I would want to get much closer for Elliot to improve his chances than just being in range, and Hurts knew that.

Just because picks are worst than drops in most cases, definitely not here. It's no difference if Mahomes' receivers were dropping passes left and right all game but when he toss a pick at the end, you would blame it on Mahomes for losing the game Lol

So you’re saying that because saquon Barkley made a mistake that otherwise most likely would’ve ended the game, all mistakes Jalen hurts make after that doesn’t matter? I don’t agree with that thought process.

Also fwiw, I’m not putting all the blame on Jalen hurts, I think there are several factors on both sides of the ball as I said in the post you quoted. I do think Jalen shares part of the blame for sure though

Tossing a pick when down in that situation was NOT his nor any QB fault as time is running out which happens more than not. Tossing check down plays for a few yards would’ve been worse. And he wouldn't had toss the ball to Saquon if he wasn't so damn open and would have ran it with his powerful tush push legs, knowing a dropped pass would had stop the clock. Don’t assume Jalen didn't know as he is one of the most self-aware players in the game. Not the "here we gooooo" dunce, who happens to be oblivious of this. He probably wasted another sec just to repeat his signature cadence before spiking that ball Lol

https://youtu.be/Ja9stWVoFGA?si=JOqG69-5q9XuwhlO

[WentzerWuver]

I should become a Chiefs fan.

You should become a Saints fan since you still think so highly of Carr since 2016 was the last time he made the playoffs and toss 3 picks his last Raiders game while smiling as a FU to them Lol. If the oddmakers are foolish enough to have them as favorites to win next week, I'm so taking the Eagles on the moneyline to win all my money back on this matchup alone!

https://youtu.be/-UHPI-ggICA?si=ppDbfjHu6H8OOSoe

https://youtube.com/shorts/6C5aeuPTpQo?si=uENEbcpNBUmcT7Ru

Good call. I liked the Saints before Sean Payton, especially the "Dome Patrol".

https://youtu.be/DXnkaeqc8Eo

Yes, the dome patrol was a menacing group and would still be the most feared in this era. If they had any offense whatsoever, they would had won at least several SB during their reign, especially with Brees and a prime Ingram.

https://youtu.be/5xuXPUGJGuU?si=aqWm2kSVBkZhKToD

[Jaydubb]

Chances of winning sky rockets?!? Lol had Saquon caught the easiest catch in his career for a 1st down, all they need to do is kneel the ball to win the game since they only had one timeout left but due to his butterfingers at the worst time possible, it also stopped the clock! So blaming ANY qb with 20s so secs left along with a defense expecting pass, picks are most likely to occur in situations exactly like this when the qb are forcing plays with time running out. And I would want to get much closer for Elliot to improve his chances than just being in range, and Hurts knew that.

Just because picks are worst than drops in most cases, definitely not here. It's no difference if Mahomes' receivers were dropping passes left and right all game but when he toss a pick at the end, you would blame it on Mahomes for losing the game Lol

So you’re saying that because saquon Barkley made a mistake that otherwise most likely would’ve ended the game, all mistakes Jalen hurts make after that doesn’t matter? I don’t agree with that thought process.

Also fwiw, I’m not putting all the blame on Jalen hurts, I think there are several factors on both sides of the ball as I said in the post you quoted. I do think Jalen shares part of the blame for sure though

Tossing a pick when down in that situation was NOT his nor any QB fault as time is running out which happens more than not. Tossing check down plays for a few yards would’ve been worse. And he wouldn't had toss the ball to Saquon if he wasn't so damn open and would have ran it with his powerful tush push legs, knowing a dropped pass would had stop the clock. Don’t assume Jalen didn't know as he is one of the most self-aware players in the game. Not the "here we gooooo" dunce, who happens to be oblivious of this. He probably wasted another sec just to repeat his signature cadence before spiking that ball Lol

https://youtu.be/Ja9stWVoFGA?si=JOqG69-5q9XuwhlO

The eagles had a timeout and 27 seconds left on the clock. They only needed to go about 15 yards to get into field goal range. They didn’t even need to get all of those 15 yards on one play. Are you suggesting that they’d forget that they had a timeout or something..? lol..

[WentzerWuver]

So you’re saying that because saquon Barkley made a mistake that otherwise most likely would’ve ended the game, all mistakes Jalen hurts make after that doesn’t matter? I don’t agree with that thought process.

Also fwiw, I’m not putting all the blame on Jalen hurts, I think there are several factors on both sides of the ball as I said in the post you quoted. I do think Jalen shares part of the blame for sure though

Tossing a pick when down in that situation was NOT his nor any QB fault as time is running out which happens more than not. Tossing check down plays for a few yards would’ve been worse. And he wouldn't had toss the ball to Saquon if he wasn't so damn open and would have ran it with his powerful tush push legs, knowing a dropped pass would had stop the clock. Don’t assume Jalen didn't know as he is one of the most self-aware players in the game. Not the "here we gooooo" dunce, who happens to be oblivious of this. He probably wasted another sec just to repeat his signature cadence before spiking that ball Lol

https://youtu.be/Ja9stWVoFGA?si=JOqG69-5q9XuwhlO

The eagles had a timeout and 27 seconds left on the clock. They only needed to go about 15 yards to get into field goal range. They didn’t even need to get all of those 15 yards on one play. Are you suggesting that they’d forget that they had a timeout or something..? lol..

He was saving that timeout to stop the clock once they are in range, but you want him to waste it on a safe run or check down for maybe 5 yards to eliminate any possibility of a pick while those dirty birds are slowly walking back to the line?

I trust Jalen than almost any active QB in the league to extend plays other than Mahomes, even though I cannot stand him.

https://youtu.be/xyLtxIpidqc?si=Pdyn-8AkA98cR8Hk

https://youtu.be/a1nT2x4tWPY?si=1owXLTYGPMHxE0Ip

[Jaydubb]

Tossing a pick when down in that situation was NOT his nor any QB fault as time is running out which happens more than not. Tossing check down plays for a few yards would’ve been worse. And he wouldn't had toss the ball to Saquon if he wasn't so damn open and would have ran it with his powerful tush push legs, knowing a dropped pass would had stop the clock. Don’t assume Jalen didn't know as he is one of the most self-aware players in the game. Not the "here we gooooo" dunce, who happens to be oblivious of this. He probably wasted another sec just to repeat his signature cadence before spiking that ball Lol

https://youtu.be/Ja9stWVoFGA?si=JOqG69-5q9XuwhlO

The eagles had a timeout and 27 seconds left on the clock. They only needed to go about 15 yards to get into field goal range. They didn’t even need to get all of those 15 yards on one play. Are you suggesting that they’d forget that they had a timeout or something..? lol..

He was saving that timeout to stop the clock once they are in range, but you want him to waste it on a safe run or check down for maybe 5 yards to eliminate any possibility of a pick while those dirty birds are slowly walking back to the line?

I trust Jalen than almost any active QB in the league to extend plays other than Mahomes, even though I cannot stand him.

https://youtu.be/xyLtxIpidqc?si=Pdyn-8AkA98cR8Hk

https://youtu.be/AvAfoepZvSM?si=HbEkOClWEp0qrpYj

When did I ever say that I wanted him to run time out on a short run or a 5 yard dump off…? Stop putting words in my mouth. 27 seconds and a timeout is plenty of time to get two plays off, and possibly 3 if you play your cards right. I’ve seen plenty of QBs succeed in that scenario. And usually the successful ones are not the ones trying to get it all in 1 play like Jalen hurts was there.

I also wanna say that I am a Jalen hurts fan, but let’s be real for a second, that was a bad play by him..

[WentzerWuver]

The eagles had a timeout and 27 seconds left on the clock. They only needed to go about 15 yards to get into field goal range. They didn’t even need to get all of those 15 yards on one play. Are you suggesting that they’d forget that they had a timeout or something..? lol..

He was saving that timeout to stop the clock once they are in range, but you want him to waste it on a safe run or check down for maybe 5 yards to eliminate any possibility of a pick while those dirty birds are slowly walking back to the line?

I trust Jalen than almost any active QB in the league to extend plays other than Mahomes, even though I cannot stand him.

https://youtu.be/xyLtxIpidqc?si=Pdyn-8AkA98cR8Hk

https://youtu.be/AvAfoepZvSM?si=HbEkOClWEp0qrpYj

When did I ever say that I wanted him to run time out on a short run or a 5 yard dump off…? Stop putting words in my mouth. 27 seconds and a timeout is plenty of time to get two plays off, and possibly 3 if you play your cards right. I’ve seen plenty of QBs succeed in that scenario. And usually the successful ones are not the ones trying to get it all in 1 play like Jalen hurts was there.

I also wanna say that I am a Jalen hurts fan, but let’s be real for a second, that was a bad play by him..

Sorry for assuming that bud. Philly are 2.5 dogs next week against an overconfident team that has no business being good. Taking the line for the win after losing a tough game as the upsets craze continues onto week 3, Eagles will not disappoint by letting one of the worst teams last season to outplay a SB contender based on talent alone. We will win and party like it's 2018 again with the Vince Lombardi Trophy!

https://phillysportsnetwork.com/2024/09/17/eagles-vs-saints-odds/

https://youtube.com/shorts/1Hj-SpB5ntY?si=BJHwkXgOijB6w28f

[Jaydubb]

He was saving that timeout to stop the clock once they are in range, but you want him to waste it on a safe run or check down for maybe 5 yards to eliminate any possibility of a pick while those dirty birds are slowly walking back to the line?

I trust Jalen than almost any active QB in the league to extend plays other than Mahomes, even though I cannot stand him.

https://youtu.be/xyLtxIpidqc?si=Pdyn-8AkA98cR8Hk

https://youtu.be/AvAfoepZvSM?si=HbEkOClWEp0qrpYj

When did I ever say that I wanted him to run time out on a short run or a 5 yard dump off…? Stop putting words in my mouth. 27 seconds and a timeout is plenty of time to get two plays off, and possibly 3 if you play your cards right. I’ve seen plenty of QBs succeed in that scenario. And usually the successful ones are not the ones trying to get it all in 1 play like Jalen hurts was there.

I also wanna say that I am a Jalen hurts fan, but let’s be real for a second, that was a bad play by him..

Sorry for assuming that bud. Philly are 2.5 dogs next week against an overconfident team that has no business being good. Taking the line for the win after losing a tough game as the upsets craze continues onto week 3, Eagles will not disappoint by letting one of the worst teams last season to outplay a SB contender based on talent alone. We will win and party like it's 2018 again with the Vince Lombardi Trophy!

https://phillysportsnetwork.com/2024/09/17/eagles-vs-saints-odds/

https://youtube.com/shorts/1Hj-SpB5ntY?si=BJHwkXgOijB6w28f

Did you come over from pro sports daily? There was a poster there that you kinda remind me of lol. A lot of us came over right around the same time when PSD shut down

[Jaydubb]

Sounds like Jalen hurts is second guessing his decision to throw 35 yards instead of try to get only 15ish for his kicker:

“In that situation, the game, I think, just looking back on it, (considering) the time we had, the opportunity we had, maybe didn't have to be as aggressive there.”

https://www.nbcsportsphiladelphia.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/jalen-hurts-explains-interception-vs-falcons-monday-night-football/616632/?amp=1

This is good news. Shows that he is willing to accept that he made a mistake and is willing to change.

[WentzerWuver]

Sounds like Jalen hurts is second guessing his decision to throw 35 yards instead of try to get only 15ish for his kicker:

“In that situation, the game, I think, just looking back on it, (considering) the time we had, the opportunity we had, maybe didn't have to be as aggressive there.”

https://www.nbcsportsphiladelphia.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/jalen-hurts-explains-interception-vs-falcons-monday-night-football/616632/?amp=1

This is good news. Shows that he is willing to accept that he made a mistake and is willing to change.

That's why Jalen is my favorite QB and player on the current Eagles roster. He was humble like pie as far back as Bama, unlike others who are selfish and unapologetic when at fault, like the Johnny footballs out there. I don't care how great their physical traits are as a QB but if I don't like their character, I would not draft them which unfortunately includes my Wentz.

https://youtube.com/shorts/UIB5wRfFzAQ?si=z5JbS5HqePxdBZ6n

https://youtube.com/shorts/014ON568sRo?si=yld1beY5wkvpHI53

[WentzerWuver]

When did I ever say that I wanted him to run time out on a short run or a 5 yard dump off…? Stop putting words in my mouth. 27 seconds and a timeout is plenty of time to get two plays off, and possibly 3 if you play your cards right. I’ve seen plenty of QBs succeed in that scenario. And usually the successful ones are not the ones trying to get it all in 1 play like Jalen hurts was there.

I also wanna say that I am a Jalen hurts fan, but let’s be real for a second, that was a bad play by him..

Sorry for assuming that bud. Philly are 2.5 dogs next week against an overconfident team that has no business being good. Taking the line for the win after losing a tough game as the upsets craze continues onto week 3, Eagles will not disappoint by letting one of the worst teams last season to outplay a SB contender based on talent alone. We will win and party like it's 2018 again with the Vince Lombardi Trophy!

https://phillysportsnetwork.com/2024/09/17/eagles-vs-saints-odds/

https://youtube.com/shorts/1Hj-SpB5ntY?si=BJHwkXgOijB6w28f

Did you come over from pro sports daily? There was a poster there that you kinda remind me of lol. A lot of us came over right around the same time when PSD shut down

Who was that? Our join date here is a good indicator since it was around that time they closed their site.

[Jaydubb]

Sorry for assuming that bud. Philly are 2.5 dogs next week against an overconfident team that has no business being good. Taking the line for the win after losing a tough game as the upsets craze continues onto week 3, Eagles will not disappoint by letting one of the worst teams last season to outplay a SB contender based on talent alone. We will win and party like it's 2018 again with the Vince Lombardi Trophy!

https://phillysportsnetwork.com/2024/09/17/eagles-vs-saints-odds/

https://youtube.com/shorts/1Hj-SpB5ntY?si=BJHwkXgOijB6w28f

Did you come over from pro sports daily? There was a poster there that you kinda remind me of lol. A lot of us came over right around the same time when PSD shut down

Who was that? Our join date here is a good indicator since it was around that time they closed their site.

I can’t remember the name but he was definitely a Carson wentz fan. it wasn’t Bdawk4Prez, he was the other Carson wentz fan.lol

[Jaydubb]

I think his name was Mr B

He was the biggest Carson wentz fan of all time

[WentzerWuver]

Did you come over from pro sports daily? There was a poster there that you kinda remind me of lol. A lot of us came over right around the same time when PSD shut down

Who was that? Our join date here is a good indicator since it was around that time they closed their site.

I can’t remember the name but he was definitely a Carson wentz fan. it wasn’t Bdawk4Prez, he was the other Carson wentz fan.lol

Yes, I was because I fell in love with his physical attributes and that arm of his until I learn his true self, or nature as a person. I finally realize it's more than just physical traits that defines someone, especially at QB. It took a long while with Wentz as I'd owned 2 of his jerseys which I could not stand putting it on and gave them away.

https://www.phillyvoice.com/carson-wentz-exclusive-sources-paint-eagles-quarterback-as-selfish-not-team-player/

For the past few years now, my priority for a QB is totally different than before. Jalen is what I want in a QB because of him as a person, even more so than a Mahomes.

[Mr B]

I think his name was Mr B

He was the biggest Carson wentz fan of all time

Hahaha!

[Jaydubb]

I think his name was Mr B

He was the biggest Carson wentz fan of all time

Hahaha!