Randle's Future

[robillionaire]

i think last season was our first look at prime randle. everything before he was still workshopping his game, often to our frustration. he finally put it together, and it was only cut short because of a dirty play by the cHeat

surrounded by everything else we have he can be that talent factor that pushes us over the top. yes jb benefits from our 3pt shooting and defensive versatility, but randle might become literally unstoppable in that scenario. he'll have 3 bonafide options to kick it out to for 3!! oh man i can't wait

Leon saw those results in January and double downed on it with Mikal as that 3rd option to feast on open looks. Randle is about to make his 3rd All NBA team and it will be glorious

He was a lock for all nba last year until the injury took him out of the running. But at least he made the all star team

I am a bit worried it will take time to round back into form after nearly a year off basketball and a new shoulder but if anybody has the work ethic to bounce back it’s him

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Randle isn’t getting benched. He’s basically Thibs favorite player and is the first one to defend him to the media every time

Hart is Thibs favorite on the team, he's the guy they went out and got because Tommy boy was a big fan of his and he's the guy Tom would play 48mins every night if he could. If Randle could be better off the bench it's not a bad thing, McHale came off the bench and so did Manu, even Odom did it for the better of the team.

[3toheadmelo]

Randle isn’t getting benched. He’s basically Thibs favorite player and is the first one to defend him to the media every time

Hart is Thibs favorite on the team, he's the guy they went out and got because Tommy boy was a big fan of his and he's the guy Tom would play 48mins every night if he could. If Randle could be better off the bench it's not a bad thing, McHale came off the bench and so did Manu, even Odom did it for the better of the team.

if hart was thibs favorite on the team then he would be starting

issue with starting hart is that he doesn't let that 3 fly like he should. thats why he be bouncing around teams. and i think thibs knows this too. nothing wrong with hart being off the bench. hes been pretty perfect in that role so far.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Randle isn’t getting benched. He’s basically Thibs favorite player and is the first one to defend him to the media every time

Hart is Thibs favorite on the team, he's the guy they went out and got because Tommy boy was a big fan of his and he's the guy Tom would play 48mins every night if he could. If Randle could be better off the bench it's not a bad thing, McHale came off the bench and so did Manu, even Odom did it for the better of the team.

if hart was thibs favorite on the team then he would be starting

issue with starting hart is that he doesn't let that 3 fly like he should. thats why he be bouncing around teams. and i think thibs knows this too. nothing wrong with hart being off the bench. hes been pretty perfect in that role so far.

Manu was one of Pops favorites, he came off the bench even though he could have been a starter, because he did what's best for the team.


Hart shot 37% on 4.5 attempts from three in the playoffs, that's a lot better than what Randle has shot from three in the playoffs. As a matter of fact, Hart averaged 14.5ppg, 11.5rpg, 4.5apg on 44% and 37% from three in the playoffs, just looking at those numbers and then Randles playoff numbers, nevermind the effort Hart has already had a better playoff run than Randle. There's nothing wrong with Randle coming off the bench, it makes the most sense to maximize the wings on the team together and amplify their defense. There's a reason he's saying he's okay with coming off the bench, it's obviously being floated around the team. And what if he came off the bench and made the team better as a result?

[Jalen Bluntson]

Hart is Thibs favorite on the team, he's the guy they went out and got because Tommy boy was a big fan of his and he's the guy Tom would play 48mins every night if he could. If Randle could be better off the bench it's not a bad thing, McHale came off the bench and so did Manu, even Odom did it for the better of the team.

if hart was thibs favorite on the team then he would be starting

issue with starting hart is that he doesn't let that 3 fly like he should. thats why he be bouncing around teams. and i think thibs knows this too. nothing wrong with hart being off the bench. hes been pretty perfect in that role so far.

Manu was one of Pops favorites, he came off the bench even though he could have been a starter, because he did what's best for the team.


Hart shot 37% on 4.5 attempts from three in the playoffs, that's a lot better than what Randle has shot from three in the playoffs. As a matter of fact, Hart averaged 14.5ppg, 11.5rpg, 4.5apg on 44% and 37% from three in the playoffs, just looking at those numbers and then Randles playoff numbers, nevermind the effort Hart has already had a better playoff run than Randle. There's nothing wrong with Randle coming off the bench, it makes the most sense to maximize the wings on the team together and amplify their defense. There's a reason he's saying he's okay with coming off the bench, it's obviously being floated around the team. And what if he came off the bench and made the team better as a result?

I love the idea of Randle as super duper 6th man.

Brunson/DDV Bridges/OG/Mitch
Deuce/Hart/Randle/Precious

That looks sick on paper. Very versatile lineup and substitutions. They could start Randle and make him the first quick sub out for appearances sake. Stagger him and Brunson and we are really deep. Randle can help Deuce with running the offense when Brunson sits. The defense is tight at all times.

[3toheadmelo]

Hart is Thibs favorite on the team, he's the guy they went out and got because Tommy boy was a big fan of his and he's the guy Tom would play 48mins every night if he could. If Randle could be better off the bench it's not a bad thing, McHale came off the bench and so did Manu, even Odom did it for the better of the team.

if hart was thibs favorite on the team then he would be starting

issue with starting hart is that he doesn't let that 3 fly like he should. thats why he be bouncing around teams. and i think thibs knows this too. nothing wrong with hart being off the bench. hes been pretty perfect in that role so far.

Manu was one of Pops favorites, he came off the bench even though he could have been a starter, because he did what's best for the team.


Hart shot 37% on 4.5 attempts from three in the playoffs, that's a lot better than what Randle has shot from three in the playoffs. As a matter of fact, Hart averaged 14.5ppg, 11.5rpg, 4.5apg on 44% and 37% from three in the playoffs, just looking at those numbers and then Randles playoff numbers, nevermind the effort Hart has already had a better playoff run than Randle. There's nothing wrong with Randle coming off the bench, it makes the most sense to maximize the wings on the team together and amplify their defense. There's a reason he's saying he's okay with coming off the bench, it's obviously being floated around the team. And what if he came off the bench and made the team better as a result?

Josh Hart played a bigger role this time around in the playoffs and while his counting stats look good, it wasn't good for the team. Knicks had a -4.5 net rating with Hart on the court and a +12.90 net rating with him off the court. Versus Randle on one ankle that required surgery, he still had a better effect than Hart did. The Knicks had a net rating of +2.57 with Randle on the court in the 2023 playoffs. The Knicks had a net rating of -0.67 with Randle OFF the court in the 2023 playoffs. There's more to the game than just counting stats. The Knicks have been much better with Hart on the bench so I don't see the need to push him as a starter. And taking just 4 attempts as a floor spacer isn't enough at all. If it was, then the Knicks wouldn't have went all in on Mikal and would've just started Hart instead. The Knicks aren't discussing bringing Randle off the bench either. It seemed prettty obvious from the interview with Thibs this week that he plans on using him in a big way again.

[Wildcat]

My Brother in Christ, Randle can't win. Now that it's sinking in that Randle isn't going anywhere, you guys want to now neuter his impact by spinning it that he should be a "super 6th man", which is so obviously not best for the team. Forcing teams to second guess who they're going to double between JB and Randle is such an incredibly asset in of itself. Bridges isn't getting that same double-team treatment.

[Stannis]

Just go ahead and trade him + cash for expirings + 2 conditional two-round picks.

[3toheadmelo]

My Brother in Christ, Randle can't win. Now that it's sinking in that Randle isn't going anywhere, you guys want to now neuter his impact by spinning it that he should be a "super 6th man", which is so obviously not best for the team. Forcing teams to second guess who they're going to double between JB and Randle is such an incredibly asset in of itself. Bridges isn't getting that same double-team treatment.

Next it’s gonna be sending Randle to the G league

[Moose]

We need all-star randle to have a chance at a title.

But it sounds like some people think this is an addition by subtraction situation

[KnicksGadfly]

We need all-star randle to have a chance at a title.

But it sounds like some people think this is an addition by subtraction situation

I think, with our situation and the state of the trade market, our best bet to get to contention is through Randle.

However, all star Randle is not enough. All NBA Randle is not enough. With his weaknesses as of now, he cannot get us to the chip. For example, he has won regular season awards with his lack of effort on defense. It does not translate to the postseason, which are a different animal. For example, Brunson’s first 2 games versus Philadelphia were similar to Randle’s games against the Hawks. Horrific. Brunson figured it out, but when you play series against teams, they game plan against you.

We don’t need regular season All Star Randle. We need much more. It’s going to require things like him giving effort on defense. It’s going to require him being healthy for the postseason for once. It’s going to require him bucking his postseason trends. It might require him to play the C effectively, not just on offense but on defense. I suspect that he can’t rely completely on his attacking style of the long term, given what happened to high flying and more athletic forwards like Griffin and STAT.

If we can’t get that, we might need to trade him but we should get as much as we can. No shame too. Lots of regular season all stars couldn’t do it, but won lots of awards.

[Jalen Bluntson]

My Brother in Christ, Randle can't win. Now that it's sinking in that Randle isn't going anywhere, you guys want to now neuter his impact by spinning it that he should be a "super 6th man", which is so obviously not best for the team. Forcing teams to second guess who they're going to double between JB and Randle is such an incredibly asset in of itself. Bridges isn't getting that same double-team treatment.

Staggering him and Brunson is not neutering his impact. It probably makes us that much harder to beat with him in the second unit for stretches where Brunson needs rest. It was a huge weakness last season not having Brunson on the floor and we haven't really addressed that. Unless people think Cam Payne is the answer.

With Brunson/DDV/Bridges/OG who are you leaving open? OG is fire from the corner three. DDV is one of the best 3pt shooters in the league. Bridges can score. Brunson is a God among men. It's not some crazy suggestion. It's not like you have to cut his minutes to do this. Imagine bench players trying to stop Randle. I don't know if this makes him a sixth man really...I just used the term super duper sixth man for no reason.

[Wildcat]

My Brother in Christ, Randle can't win. Now that it's sinking in that Randle isn't going anywhere, you guys want to now neuter his impact by spinning it that he should be a "super 6th man", which is so obviously not best for the team. Forcing teams to second guess who they're going to double between JB and Randle is such an incredibly asset in of itself. Bridges isn't getting that same double-team treatment.

Staggering him and Brunson is not neutering his impact. It probably makes us that much harder to beat with him in the second unit for stretches where Brunson needs rest. It was a huge weakness last season not having Brunson on the floor and we haven't really addressed that. Unless people think Cam Payne is the answer.

With Brunson/DDV/Bridges/OG who are you leaving open? OG is fire from the corner three. DDV is one of the best 3pt shooters in the league. Bridges can score. Brunson is a God among men. It's not some crazy suggestion. It's not like you have to cut his minutes to do this. Imagine bench players trying to stop Randle. I don't know if this makes him a sixth man really...I just used the term super duper sixth man for no reason.

You don't stagger by putting your 2nd best player on the bench. You stagger him in the most logical and fundamental way that every single head coach would follow, i.e., Brunson or Randle sits, then bring in the rested player when the other one needs a breather. No one can sit there and say with a straight face that a bench with DD and Hart, sprinkled in with Precious and Deuce is not head and shoulders better than last year's bench. And those 2 or 3 players will -- barring injuries -- always be playing with either JB or Randle. Randle as your super 6th man is a dumb idea.

You weaken your 1st unit by taking Randle out of it. With his injury history, do you really want OG to be banging with PF's regularly? Do you really want Josh to be overpowered by PF's regularly? We saw what a real PF can do to Josh and that wasn't fun. Why wear them down when the suitable role is Josh off the bench, and OG utilizing his versatility on defend. Locking him (OG) in to defend bigger players on a regular basis is so incredibly shortsighted.

It's not about the term super duper 6th man. It's the context behind it. This team already has an uber 6th man, and that's Josh. This bench -- as is -- is the chef's kiss. And it's been implied that whatever variation of the bench we see, JB or Randle will be with that group.

[3toheadmelo]

My Brother in Christ, Randle can't win. Now that it's sinking in that Randle isn't going anywhere, you guys want to now neuter his impact by spinning it that he should be a "super 6th man", which is so obviously not best for the team. Forcing teams to second guess who they're going to double between JB and Randle is such an incredibly asset in of itself. Bridges isn't getting that same double-team treatment.

Staggering him and Brunson is not neutering his impact. It probably makes us that much harder to beat with him in the second unit for stretches where Brunson needs rest. It was a huge weakness last season not having Brunson on the floor and we haven't really addressed that. Unless people think Cam Payne is the answer.

With Brunson/DDV/Bridges/OG who are you leaving open? OG is fire from the corner three. DDV is one of the best 3pt shooters in the league. Bridges can score. Brunson is a God among men. It's not some crazy suggestion. It's not like you have to cut his minutes to do this. Imagine bench players trying to stop Randle. I don't know if this makes him a sixth man really...I just used the term super duper sixth man for no reason.

You don't stagger by putting your 2nd best player on the bench. You stagger him in the most logical and fundamental way that every single head coach would follow, i.e., Brunson or Randle sits, then bring in the rested player when the other one needs a breather. No one can sit there and say with a straight face that a bench with DD and Hart, sprinkled in with Precious and Deuce is not head and shoulders better than last year's bench. And those 2 or 3 players will -- barring injuries -- always be playing with either JB or Randle. Randle as your super 6th man is a dumb idea.

You weaken your 1st unit by taking Randle out of it. With his injury history, do you really want OG to be banging with PF's regularly? Do you really want Josh to be overpowered by PF's regularly? We saw what a real PF can do to Josh and that wasn't fun. Why wear them down when the suitable role is Josh off the bench, and OG utilizing his versatility on defend. Locking him (OG) in to defend bigger players on a regular basis is so incredibly shortsighted.

It's not about the term super duper 6th man. It's the context behind it. This team already has an uber 6th man, and that's Josh. This bench -- as is -- is the chef's kiss. And it's been implied that whatever variation of the bench we see, JB or Randle will be with that group.

[Wildcat]

We need all-star randle to have a chance at a title.

But it sounds like some people think this is an addition by subtraction situation

I think, with our situation and the state of the trade market, our best bet to get to contention is through Randle.

However, all star Randle is not enough. All NBA Randle is not enough. With his weaknesses as of now, he cannot get us to the chip. For example, he has won regular season awards with his lack of effort on defense. It does not translate to the postseason, which are a different animal. For example, Brunson’s first 2 games versus Philadelphia were similar to Randle’s games against the Hawks. Horrific. Brunson figured it out, but when you play series against teams, they game plan against you.

We don’t need regular season All Star Randle. We need much more. It’s going to require things like him giving effort on defense. It’s going to require him being healthy for the postseason for once. It’s going to require him bucking his postseason trends. It might require him to play the C effectively, not just on offense but on defense. I suspect that he can’t rely completely on his attacking style of the long term, given what happened to high flying and more athletic forwards like Griffin and STAT.

If we can’t get that, we might need to trade him but we should get as much as we can. No shame too. Lots of regular season all stars couldn’t do it, but won lots of awards.

You're comparing apples to oranges, though. Like, can we all agree that the team in the series against the Hawks was made are essentially peanuts compared to JB's team against the 76ers. Some of them are basically not even in the league anymore. Bullock end of the bench guy, Noel out of the league, a young RJ, Payton out of the league, Rose end of the bench guy, Taj in-n-out of the league, Burks, a young IQ, a young Obi, and Ntilikina out of the league. This roster is literally night and day compared to talent that surrounded JB.

Also, consider this, Young averaged 30 & 10 in that series. Knicks didn't solely loose because of Randle. I promise you, you take out Randle for JB in that 2021 playoff roster and the results will be the same. I don't know what player could make that scrappy, yet awful roster succeed in the playoffs. I'm not mad about that series.

[JayTWill]

Randle isn’t getting benched. He’s basically Thibs favorite player and is the first one to defend him to the media every time

I've never thought about replacing Randle with Hart in the starting lineup but we have actually seen this story before. Be patient with me please.

Ten years ago a dynasty began with a multiple time all-star all NBA power forward and top scoring option coming off an injury and not being 100% healthy to begin the season. He was replaced in the starting lineup by an undersized forward with limited scoring capabilities. This undersized forward brought great energy and could do a little bit of everything outside of scoring in bunches.

He was paired with an incredibly talented to small scoring guard while his 3 and D backcourt partner became the clear cut #2 option despite not being as talented as an on-ball creator as the multiple time all-star. This group maintained their previous defensive identity but their offense took a huge leap as they depended less on isolation scoring and began sharing and moving the ball quicker.

Talented small scoring guard, #1 option Curry/Brunson
3 and D #2 option Klay/Mikal
High end roleplayer Barnes/OG
Defensive minded, motor of the team Draymond/Hart
Rim protecting Big with great passing Bogut/ iHa.....
Defensive minded injury prone big Bogut/Mitch

Small death lineup Curry,Klay,Iggy,Barned,Draymond/Brunson,DDV,Mikal,Hart,OG

Veteran that came here when no one else would, to play in front of a great fanbase and saw things built from the ground up coming off the bench after many years of starting....
David Lee/Randle

Is this the beginning of a new dynasty????

Imagine this feeling when Randle is finally rewarded with his ring after all the ups and downs of his time here

Watch on YouTube

Can you envision it Melo?

[3toheadmelo]

Randle isn’t getting benched. He’s basically Thibs favorite player and is the first one to defend him to the media every time

I've never thought about replacing Randle with Hart in the starting lineup but we have actually seen this story before. Be patient with me please.

Ten years ago a dynasty began with a multiple time all-star all NBA power forward and top scoring option coming off an injury and not being 100% healthy to begin the season. He was replaced in the starting lineup by an undersized forward with limited scoring capabilities. This undersized forward brought great energy and could do a little bit of everything outside of scoring in bunches.

He was paired with an incredibly talented to small scoring guard while his 3 and D backcourt partner became the clear cut #2 option despite not being as talented as an on-ball creator as the multiple time all-star. This group maintained their previous defensive identity but their offense took a huge leap as they depended less on isolation scoring and began sharing and moving the ball quicker.

Talented small scoring guard, #1 option Curry/Brunson
3 and D #2 option Klay/Mikal
High end roleplayer Barnes/OG
Defensive minded, motor of the team Draymond/Hart
Rim protecting Big with great passing Bogut/ iHa.....
Defensive minded injury prone big Bogut/Mitch

Small death lineup Curry,Klay,Iggy,Barned,Draymond/Brunson,DDV,Mikal,Hart,OG

Veteran that came here when no one else would, to play in front of a great fanbase and saw things built from the ground up coming off the bench after many years of starting....
David Lee/Randle

Is this the beginning of a new dynasty????

Imagine this feeling when Randle is finally rewarded with his ring after all the ups and downs of his time here

Watch on YouTube

Can you envision it Melo?

Watch on YouTube

[NoDopeOnSundays]

if hart was thibs favorite on the team then he would be starting

issue with starting hart is that he doesn't let that 3 fly like he should. thats why he be bouncing around teams. and i think thibs knows this too. nothing wrong with hart being off the bench. hes been pretty perfect in that role so far.

Manu was one of Pops favorites, he came off the bench even though he could have been a starter, because he did what's best for the team.


Hart shot 37% on 4.5 attempts from three in the playoffs, that's a lot better than what Randle has shot from three in the playoffs. As a matter of fact, Hart averaged 14.5ppg, 11.5rpg, 4.5apg on 44% and 37% from three in the playoffs, just looking at those numbers and then Randles playoff numbers, nevermind the effort Hart has already had a better playoff run than Randle. There's nothing wrong with Randle coming off the bench, it makes the most sense to maximize the wings on the team together and amplify their defense. There's a reason he's saying he's okay with coming off the bench, it's obviously being floated around the team. And what if he came off the bench and made the team better as a result?

Josh Hart played a bigger role this time around in the playoffs and while his counting stats look good, it wasn't good for the team. Knicks had a -4.5 net rating with Hart on the court and a +12.90 net rating with him off the court. Versus Randle on one ankle that required surgery, he still had a better effect than Hart did. The Knicks had a net rating of +2.57 with Randle on the court in the 2023 playoffs. The Knicks had a net rating of -0.67 with Randle OFF the court in the 2023 playoffs. There's more to the game than just counting stats. The Knicks have been much better with Hart on the bench so I don't see the need to push him as a starter. And taking just 4 attempts as a floor spacer isn't enough at all. If it was, then the Knicks wouldn't have went all in on Mikal and would've just started Hart instead. The Knicks aren't discussing bringing Randle off the bench either. It seemed prettty obvious from the interview with Thibs this week that he plans on using him in a big way again.

The entire starting 5 outside of Brunson had negative net ratings, mainly because we had no backups for anyone and diminishing returns happen when you play more than 40mpg. Going by net rating and the playoffs, you can make the case for multiple wings and a floor stretcher at the 4 since Bojan had a +34.0. If we use net ratings a mean for anything, Randles against the Hawks was just as bad as Harts, but that was a depleted roster...which is what we had this year. The point of bringing him off the bench isn't to punish him, it's to look for ways to play the 3 wings together as much as possible, have the ball in Brunsons hands more, play Randle at the 5 more and see if Bridges can find the scorer he was with the Nets in the first season. Bridges becoming a better scorer is more important than anything else going into next season, if he finds himself as a scorer we will win a title, if he's relegated to the Donte role we're not doing anything.

Better players have come off the bench to help their teams win titles.

[JayTWill]

Randle isn’t getting benched. He’s basically Thibs favorite player and is the first one to defend him to the media every time

I've never thought about replacing Randle with Hart in the starting lineup but we have actually seen this story before. Be patient with me please.

Ten years ago a dynasty began with a multiple time all-star all NBA power forward and top scoring option coming off an injury and not being 100% healthy to begin the season. He was replaced in the starting lineup by an undersized forward with limited scoring capabilities. This undersized forward brought great energy and could do a little bit of everything outside of scoring in bunches.

He was paired with an incredibly talented to small scoring guard while his 3 and D backcourt partner became the clear cut #2 option despite not being as talented as an on-ball creator as the multiple time all-star. This group maintained their previous defensive identity but their offense took a huge leap as they depended less on isolation scoring and began sharing and moving the ball quicker.

Talented small scoring guard, #1 option Curry/Brunson
3 and D #2 option Klay/Mikal
High end roleplayer Barnes/OG
Defensive minded, motor of the team Draymond/Hart
Rim protecting Big with great passing Bogut/ iHa.....
Defensive minded injury prone big Bogut/Mitch

Small death lineup Curry,Klay,Iggy,Barned,Draymond/Brunson,DDV,Mikal,Hart,OG

Veteran that came here when no one else would, to play in front of a great fanbase and saw things built from the ground up coming off the bench after many years of starting....
David Lee/Randle

Is this the beginning of a new dynasty????

Imagine this feeling when Randle is finally rewarded with his ring after all the ups and downs of his time here

Watch on YouTube

Can you envision it Melo?

Watch on YouTube

Nah, I killed it.

Watch on YouTube

[Jalen Bluntson]

My Brother in Christ, Randle can't win. Now that it's sinking in that Randle isn't going anywhere, you guys want to now neuter his impact by spinning it that he should be a "super 6th man", which is so obviously not best for the team. Forcing teams to second guess who they're going to double between JB and Randle is such an incredibly asset in of itself. Bridges isn't getting that same double-team treatment.

Staggering him and Brunson is not neutering his impact. It probably makes us that much harder to beat with him in the second unit for stretches where Brunson needs rest. It was a huge weakness last season not having Brunson on the floor and we haven't really addressed that. Unless people think Cam Payne is the answer.

With Brunson/DDV/Bridges/OG who are you leaving open? OG is fire from the corner three. DDV is one of the best 3pt shooters in the league. Bridges can score. Brunson is a God among men. It's not some crazy suggestion. It's not like you have to cut his minutes to do this. Imagine bench players trying to stop Randle. I don't know if this makes him a sixth man really...I just used the term super duper sixth man for no reason.

You don't stagger by putting your 2nd best player on the bench. You stagger him in the most logical and fundamental way that every single head coach would follow, i.e., Brunson or Randle sits, then bring in the rested player when the other one needs a breather. No one can sit there and say with a straight face that a bench with DD and Hart, sprinkled in with Precious and Deuce is not head and shoulders better than last year's bench. And those 2 or 3 players will -- barring injuries -- always be playing with either JB or Randle. Randle as your super 6th man is a dumb idea.

You weaken your 1st unit by taking Randle out of it. With his injury history, do you really want OG to be banging with PF's regularly? Do you really want Josh to be overpowered by PF's regularly? We saw what a real PF can do to Josh and that wasn't fun. Why wear them down when the suitable role is Josh off the bench, and OG utilizing his versatility on defend. Locking him (OG) in to defend bigger players on a regular basis is so incredibly shortsighted.

It's not about the term super duper 6th man. It's the context behind it. This team already has an uber 6th man, and that's Josh. This bench -- as is -- is the chef's kiss. And it's been implied that whatever variation of the bench we see, JB or Randle will be with that group.

I didn't suggest benching anyone. You're wrong. Bye.