Juan Toscano-Anderson: The NBA G League Is "The 2nd Best League In The World"

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Re: Players And Coaches That Actually Think The NBA G League Is 

Post#81 » by Doctor MJ » Sun Sep 22, 2024 7:56 pm

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Scoot was a 6'3" teenager. Why are there so many people that expected more from him? People speak of him as if he was the #1 overall pick and he has no future in the NBA based upon the stats he produced as a 6'3" teenager. I personally never seen a special player in him before he was drafted, but he can certainly potentially become a Tyrese Maxey or Jalen Brunson level player in the NBA at some point. That would be worth the 3rd overall pick in the draft..


You seem like you're saying that fans were expecting too much of him because of his size and age, but folks like me aren't talking about what we personally expected. Rather we're talking about the hype ahead of time. The NBA very much tried to hype the 2023 draft as a draft with 2 generational talents who would be rivals, and in doing so they did a tremendous disservice to Scoot.

Re: can "certainly potentially" become Maxey or Brunson. I'm not entirely sure what you mean by the phrase I've quoted. What I'll say:

- Rookies get better in subsequent years, so we'll see what happens.

- But we should not pretend that the struggle Scoot had last year were merely typical levels of rookie struggle. It's really, really not normal for a rookie to get as much primacy as Scoot got last year and for him to not even make All-Rookie 2nd team. In such awards typically every player who gets major run as a rookie gets All-Rookie nods, and it ensures that all of the most hyped rookies get love even when they really struggle.

If you had told me before the season started that Portland would let Scoot shoot >10 FGA/g and asked me what the odds were he'd make All-Rookie (1st or 2nd) team, I'd have said 99%. And yet as it was, Scoot was so bad as a rookie I thought it was a given he'd miss out.

We're talking about a situation where Scoot was drafted to be Portland's franchise player, and yet they have to be going into this year with the expectation that if he doesn't show massive growth, he might not even have a future as a role player.

And again, this is not me looking to express my own scouting on Scoot. I'm just talking based on having watched the NBA for a very long time and knowing how rare it is to have a player so disappoint in his rookie season while getting playing time. It's not normal.


It's obvious that you don't know the rarity of 6'3" and under teenage NBA players. Anfernee Simons, look how long it took before he settled into who he is.


I don't even know how you could think you could know this based on what I said, but you're not just wrong, you're not seeing the obvious consistent take that I haven't explicitly stated previously, but will do now for the benefit of those who would benefit:

Scoot's size had everything to do with why it was so noteworthy to see him hyped as a generational player to rival Wembanyama, and why he was seen as a franchise player when he was drafted by a franchise that understood it would mean moving on from Damian Lillard because of it (which certainly was not the case for Brunson or Maxey)...so yes, I fully understand the standard distribution of size in the NBA, and me knowing this I believe should have been predictable based on what I've said previously.

Because you previously concluded the opposite I would request you please step back a minute before responding to make sure you're not making other false assumptions about what I've said.
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Re: Players And Coaches That Actually Think The NBA G League Is 

Post#82 » by SelfishPlayer » Sun Sep 22, 2024 8:10 pm

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You seem like you're saying that fans were expecting too much of him because of his size and age, but folks like me aren't talking about what we personally expected. Rather we're talking about the hype ahead of time. The NBA very much tried to hype the 2023 draft as a draft with 2 generational talents who would be rivals, and in doing so they did a tremendous disservice to Scoot.

Re: can "certainly potentially" become Maxey or Brunson. I'm not entirely sure what you mean by the phrase I've quoted. What I'll say:

- Rookies get better in subsequent years, so we'll see what happens.

- But we should not pretend that the struggle Scoot had last year were merely typical levels of rookie struggle. It's really, really not normal for a rookie to get as much primacy as Scoot got last year and for him to not even make All-Rookie 2nd team. In such awards typically every player who gets major run as a rookie gets All-Rookie nods, and it ensures that all of the most hyped rookies get love even when they really struggle.

If you had told me before the season started that Portland would let Scoot shoot >10 FGA/g and asked me what the odds were he'd make All-Rookie (1st or 2nd) team, I'd have said 99%. And yet as it was, Scoot was so bad as a rookie I thought it was a given he'd miss out.

We're talking about a situation where Scoot was drafted to be Portland's franchise player, and yet they have to be going into this year with the expectation that if he doesn't show massive growth, he might not even have a future as a role player.

And again, this is not me looking to express my own scouting on Scoot. I'm just talking based on having watched the NBA for a very long time and knowing how rare it is to have a player so disappoint in his rookie season while getting playing time. It's not normal.


It's obvious that you don't know the rarity of 6'3" and under teenage NBA players. Anfernee Simons, look how long it took before he settled into who he is.


I don't even know how you could think you could know this based on what I said, but you're not just wrong, you're not seeing the obvious consistent take that I haven't explicitly stated previously, but will do now for the benefit of those who would benefit:

Scoot's size had everything to do with why it was so noteworthy to see him hyped as a generational player to rival Wembanyama, and why he was seen as a franchise player when he was drafted by a franchise that understood it would mean moving on from Damian Lillard because of it (which certainly was not the case for Brunson or Maxey)...so yes, I fully understand the standard distribution of size in the NBA, and me knowing this I believe should have been predictable based on what I've said previously.

Because you previously concluded the opposite I would request you please step back a minute before responding to make sure you're not making other false assumptions about what I've said.


There is no such thing as a 3rd overall pick that is projected to be a generational talent. :crazy:
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Post#83 » by Doctor MJ » Sun Sep 22, 2024 8:32 pm

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It's obvious that you don't know the rarity of 6'3" and under teenage NBA players. Anfernee Simons, look how long it took before he settled into who he is.


I don't even know how you could think you could know this based on what I said, but you're not just wrong, you're not seeing the obvious consistent take that I haven't explicitly stated previously, but will do now for the benefit of those who would benefit:

Scoot's size had everything to do with why it was so noteworthy to see him hyped as a generational player to rival Wembanyama, and why he was seen as a franchise player when he was drafted by a franchise that understood it would mean moving on from Damian Lillard because of it (which certainly was not the case for Brunson or Maxey)...so yes, I fully understand the standard distribution of size in the NBA, and me knowing this I believe should have been predictable based on what I've said previously.

Because you previously concluded the opposite I would request you please step back a minute before responding to make sure you're not making other false assumptions about what I've said.


There is no such thing as a 3rd overall pick that is projected to be a generational talent. :crazy:


Do understand that the "hyped as a generational player to rival Wembanyama" statement I made was about action taken by the NBA in the year BEFORE the draft.

You're quite right though that he ended up falling to 3rd in the draft indicates that in the moment of truth, she wasn't treated like a generational player by the franchise at #2, or by those who might have traded up to take him there.

Nevertheless, Portland drafted him as their putative future franchise player pretty explicitly given the Dame situation and thrust him into the role from the jump, which is why the discussion about Scoot is what it is.
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Re: Players And Coaches That Actually Think The NBA G League Is 

Post#84 » by SelfishPlayer » Sun Sep 22, 2024 9:08 pm

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I don't even know how you could think you could know this based on what I said, but you're not just wrong, you're not seeing the obvious consistent take that I haven't explicitly stated previously, but will do now for the benefit of those who would benefit:

Scoot's size had everything to do with why it was so noteworthy to see him hyped as a generational player to rival Wembanyama, and why he was seen as a franchise player when he was drafted by a franchise that understood it would mean moving on from Damian Lillard because of it (which certainly was not the case for Brunson or Maxey)...so yes, I fully understand the standard distribution of size in the NBA, and me knowing this I believe should have been predictable based on what I've said previously.

Because you previously concluded the opposite I would request you please step back a minute before responding to make sure you're not making other false assumptions about what I've said.


There is no such thing as a 3rd overall pick that is projected to be a generational talent. :crazy:


Do understand that the "hyped as a generational player to rival Wembanyama" statement I made was about action taken by the NBA in the year BEFORE the draft.

You're quite right though that he ended up falling to 3rd in the draft indicates that in the moment of truth, she wasn't treated like a generational player by the franchise at #2, or by those who might have traded up to take him there.

Nevertheless, Portland drafted him as their putative future franchise player pretty explicitly given the Dame situation and thrust him into the role from the jump, which is why the discussion about Scoot is what it is.


Why do you care what Portland supposedly believes? The player only is what he is, he certainly isn't a star player or generational talent.
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Post#85 » by Doctor MJ » Sun Sep 22, 2024 10:03 pm

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There is no such thing as a 3rd overall pick that is projected to be a generational talent. :crazy:


Do understand that the "hyped as a generational player to rival Wembanyama" statement I made was about action taken by the NBA in the year BEFORE the draft.

You're quite right though that he ended up falling to 3rd in the draft indicates that in the moment of truth, she wasn't treated like a generational player by the franchise at #2, or by those who might have traded up to take him there.

Nevertheless, Portland drafted him as their putative future franchise player pretty explicitly given the Dame situation and thrust him into the role from the jump, which is why the discussion about Scoot is what it is.


Why do you care what Portland supposedly believes? The player only is what he is, he certainly isn't a star player or generational talent.


If you want to know what I'm focused on here, just go back to my first post, which is on the first page of the thread.
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Post#86 » by lambchop » Sun Sep 22, 2024 10:36 pm

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lambchop wrote:That's just your opinion on Malaga's roster because you think their players suck simply due to their salaries. Fact of the matter is that they were significantly better than Baskonia who made the Euroleague playoffs, missed the Spanish playoffs and spent more money in the process. That's cool for them, but they were still not nearly as good as Malaga. They also lost both regular season matchups against Malaga last season. Would have been cool to see them meet in the playoffs, but, unfortunately, Baskonia didn't even make it, while Malaga cruised.

And why are you comparing Malaga to Panathinaikos? Not even Real Madrid could handle them. It would be better to compare Malaga to Baskonia or other weaker Euroleague playoff teams.




So that would mean that being generous, Malaga has somewhere around the 17th best roster in Europe. They are miles away from the level of top EuroLeague teams like Olympiacos, Barca, Real Madrid, Panathinaikos. This is not an opinion. This is a fact. Kendrick Perry is arguably the best player on Malaga's team. In the EuroLeague, he was often barely even playable.

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So...the 17th best roster in Europe just beat Real Madrid in the Supercup 90 to 80. They were even up by 16 points at one point. Like I said, you have no idea how competitive the Spanish league is and how good those teams really are. Even Madrid can get cooked. Those Euroleague teams, like Bologna, Belgrade teams, German teams etc. wouldn't even make the Spanish playoffs and Malaga would clown them every single time.

There's a reason why the Spanish 1st league is the DEATH of young Spanish prospects. It's simply too strong for teams to risk playing those kind of players. Even projected lottery pick Gonzalez picked up his share of towel waves and water bottle assists as expected, cause he's unplayable in that setting. Should have gone to Germany or the Balkans to truly elevate his game.
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Post#87 » by brutalitops » Mon Sep 23, 2024 12:43 am

Doctor MJ wrote:OP you right about G League. No doubt about it.

Only thing I’ll say: I feel like all the attempted hype for the G-League died when Scoot went from “Wemby’s rival” to one of the worst high profile rookies we’ve ever seen

The entire concept of the “G League instead of College” was that it would be better preparation for the NBA, but if that were true it shouldn’t have been possible to spent a year in the G League without red flags showing up. The G League seems to have been more interested in promoting Scott than alerting him to the things he desperately needed to improve.


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The G league was a great idea, And plus they kind of needed to promote guys like Scoot to get viewers, interest and draw guys over

College will always make money off the back of unpaid slaves and has the history and market, Its no way the best thing to develop NBA prospects, the NBL, G League Ignite (How they did it was a bit off, They should of probably had 3/4 teams to place guys in rather then just 1, then try to showcase/build guy) Overtime Elite. Do a much better job then College, Where guys like (Wont knock him, great player) Mark Sears who plays like a dude whos 28 and just an incredibly intelligent player, But is basically at his ceiling a second round pick, Who might make more money going international, While G league teams/NBL wont give him the keys to build a system knowing they want 4 years to develop a team for a title. They have 1/2 max before a great player who can be a good NBA player will opt for 12m dollars when drafted


G League aint the best league in the world, thats JTA just being proud and a proud competitive athlete. The G league is filled with guys at 22-23 still trying to make it to the NBA, and Semi professional, While Euroleague/NBL/CBA are filled with professional basketball players who are adults, Many Stories of guys like the NBL's Best player Bryce Cotton who makes about 2M a season, Doesnt want to go overseas because his family is settled, Has been offered contracts from Atlanta worth the minimum, So hes being offered less money to sit on the bench at 31 years old

Would say Bryce Cotton walk into the G league and be the best player in the league? Maybe not. He might turn up and get signed for the magic/Maine but they wont put the ball in his hands as much as the wildcats because they get pressure from their NBA team to play a certain style, Give the ball to certain development players to give them the most looks for development. He might literally be coming off the bench because the Celtics want the red claws to run with JD Davidson for 35MPG and cotton to only run PNR for Queta
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Post#88 » by brutalitops » Mon Sep 23, 2024 12:46 am

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lambchop wrote:That's just your opinion on Malaga's roster because you think their players suck simply due to their salaries. Fact of the matter is that they were significantly better than Baskonia who made the Euroleague playoffs, missed the Spanish playoffs and spent more money in the process. That's cool for them, but they were still not nearly as good as Malaga. They also lost both regular season matchups against Malaga last season. Would have been cool to see them meet in the playoffs, but, unfortunately, Baskonia didn't even make it, while Malaga cruised.

And why are you comparing Malaga to Panathinaikos? Not even Real Madrid could handle them. It would be better to compare Malaga to Baskonia or other weaker Euroleague playoff teams.




So that would mean that being generous, Malaga has somewhere around the 17th best roster in Europe. They are miles away from the level of top EuroLeague teams like Olympiacos, Barca, Real Madrid, Panathinaikos. This is not an opinion. This is a fact. Kendrick Perry is arguably the best player on Malaga's team. In the EuroLeague, he was often barely even playable.

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So...the 17th best roster in Europe just beat Real Madrid in the Supercup 90 to 80. They were even up by 16 points at one point. Like I said, you have no idea how competitive the Spanish league is and how good those teams really are. Even Madrid can get cooked. Those Euroleague teams, like Bologna, Belgrade teams, German teams etc. wouldn't even make the Spanish playoffs and Malaga would clown them every single time.

There's a reason why the Spanish 1st league is the DEATH of young Spanish prospects. It's simply too strong for teams to risk playing those kind of players. Even projected lottery pick Gonzalez picked up his share of towel waves and water bottle assists as expected, cause he's unplayable in that setting. Should have gone to Germany or the Balkans to truly elevate his game.


It's a bloodbath for young prospects, Same thing happened to LaMelo in the Aussie league, He came in and credit to the hawks for sticking with him, But he was a 6'8" skinny 17 year old, You had full grown men just go at him for a few games where they should of dragged him, It took him a little but and I think there may have been an unspoken financial (Please dont bench a dude whos the face of this partnership of us and the NBA) and he figured out how to get shots off and what he needed to do defensively to hang.

Days are gone from a great young prospect going to be able to hang in a lot of the firsts leagues in the world, The talentpool is just too good you wont have a 17 year old who can jump in and look amazing
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Post#89 » by Mirotic12 » Mon Sep 22, 2025 4:34 am

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Mirotic12 wrote:So that would mean that being generous, Malaga has somewhere around the 17th best roster in Europe. They are miles away from the level of top EuroLeague teams like Olympiacos, Barca, Real Madrid, Panathinaikos. This is not an opinion. This is a fact. Kendrick Perry is arguably the best player on Malaga's team. In the EuroLeague, he was often barely even playable.


So...the 17th best roster in Europe just beat Real Madrid in the Supercup 90 to 80. They were even up by 16 points at one point. Like I said, you have no idea how competitive the Spanish league is and how good those teams really are. Even Madrid can get cooked. Those Euroleague teams, like Bologna, Belgrade teams, German teams etc. wouldn't even make the Spanish playoffs and Malaga would clown them every single time.

There's a reason why the Spanish 1st league is the DEATH of young Spanish prospects. It's simply too strong for teams to risk playing those kind of players. Even projected lottery pick Gonzalez picked up his share of towel waves and water bottle assists as expected, cause he's unplayable in that setting. Should have gone to Germany or the Balkans to truly elevate his game.


2024 Spanish League Playoffs:

Real Madrid 3 - Malaga 1

Real Madrid lost 3 to 1 in the EuroLeague playoffs.

Real Madrid, an actual EuroLeague team, lost 3 to 1 in the EuroLeague playoffs, and they were not some top level or elite team during the season either. Their overall record was 23-17. So, just an above EuroLeage team really.

So, an above average EuroLeague season team, that lost 3 to 1 in the EuroLeague playoffs, turned right around after that, and proceeded to then beat Malaga 3 to 1 in the Spanish League playoffs.

Malaga would not be anything more than one of the worst teams in the EuroLeague.

They would not have made the EuroLeague play ins last year.

This year, they would not make the EuroLeague play ins either.
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Post#90 » by Mirotic12 » Mon Sep 22, 2025 4:43 am

The G League United all league special selection team, lost yet again, to a team from a 2nd/3rd tier European league, at the 2025 FIBA Intercontinental Cup.

The funny thing about it was how in the 4th quarter, it really seemed like Malaga felt bad for the G League players.

Once Malaga started playing defense in the 3rd quarter, they quickly took control of the game, and it was clear that the G League United had no chance.

Then all of a sudden, at some point in the 4th quarter, it looked Malaga very clearly intentionally took the pedal off the gas, and didn't want to run up the score on them.

Second best league in the world....
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Post#91 » by Mephariel » Mon Sep 22, 2025 5:57 am

I never seen someone get so triggered by what a G league player say.
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Post#92 » by UcanUwill » Mon Sep 22, 2025 7:37 am

One thing I still do not understand about this tournament, why every other continent is represented by actual club, meanwhile G league gets to select their all star team? Why aren't G league champions just play in this, this would probably mean very uncompetitive final I get that, as Malaga still beats their all star team no problem, but this G league team still reaches finals, beating African or Asian counterparts, so why they get to make all-league team, just seems weird to me? We could argue maybe actual G league team would get more chemistry and all that, and at least it would be even footing with African and Asian representatives. Because let say G league all stars wins this, where does the trophy even go, G league headquarters? There is no actual team here? The whole thing seems odd.

That said, I am a bit surprised G league united team still so noticeably behind random Spanish team like Malaga, there really aren't many quality players in G league, Baskonia just signed Markquis Nowell, who was a standout in G league, but he is literally 5'7, not sure thats a good signing, Baskonia has fallen off hard, they cant afford anybody good, I do not know how they still keep Euroleague spot, when they strugle making Spanish play offs these days?
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Post#93 » by Chokic » Mon Sep 22, 2025 2:18 pm

Mirotic12 wrote:In recent years, the NBA G-League has been playing at the FIBA Intercontinental Cup, which is the World Basketball Club Championship. Originally, they would send the league champions from G-League, then they sent the G-League Ignite last year, and for this year's tournament, they used a select team of pro free agents. Of course, none of the G-League teams have won the Intercontinental Cup. The Intercontinental Cup no longer includes EuroLeague teams (teams from Europe's best league), at least for the time being, because FIBA, which organizes the Intercontinental Cup, and EuroLeague, got in a war, and FIBA banned EuroLeague clubs.

So it's not like the G-League teams even have EuroLeague teams as competition. It's just teams from the 3rd level European league, the FIBA Basketball Champions League, not from Europe's best league. And also the teams from Africa, Latin America, Asia, and Australia. And all of those other teams can only send their league champions. They are not allowed to send select teams, like the G-League can. For example, a select team from Australia's league, or from the European BCL, would be way better than their club champions are. So FIBA even allows the G-League to have a built-in advantage at the tournament.

But it's always amazing when these Intercontinental Cups happen, how the G-League teams in every tournament, will have some player or coach making a statement about how the G-League is the second best league in the world, and how they will prove that or whatever at the tournament. And how during some of the G-League team's games, during timeouts, you can actually hear players and coaches talking about how the G-League is the second best league in the world, and how they should be able to beat "all of these other teams". And they will also call the European teams at the tournament, "EuroLeague teams", even though they are not actually playing against EuroLeague teams.

This is really something, that even professional players and coaches, and guys that have even played in the NBA, etc., actually could think something so truly absurd and ridiculous. All of these international leagues are very clearly better than the NBA G-League:

NBA (technically international because it has a team from Canada)
EuroLeague
EuroCup
FIBA Basketball Champions League (BCL)
ABA (Adriatic League)
NBL (Australian League, technically international because it as a team from New Zealand)
FIBA Americas Basketball Champions League (Americas BCL)

And if we add national domestic leagues, then all of these leagues are also better than the NBA G-League:

ACB (Spanish League)
GBL (Greek League)
BSL (Turkish League)
LBA (Italian League)
Pro A (French League)
BBL (German League)
BPL (Israeli League)
VTB (Russian League)
LKL (Lithuanian League)
PLK (Polish League)
LNB (Argentine League)
NBB (Brazilian League)

So basically, the NBA G-League is in the best case scenario, the 20th best basketball league in the world. Yet, there are always these players and coaches claiming it's the 2nd best league in the world, every year at the Intercontinental Cup. And even though the G-League teams lose at every Intercontinental Cup, the very next year, they still seem to believe the G-League is the world's 2nd best league.

Such a level of complete and total disregard and lack of awareness, about any basketball that exists outside of the USA, among actual pro players and coaches is just ridiculous.



Even tho I don't agree with Juan Toscana Anderson statement however calling the nba gleague the 20th best league is more asinine than saying its the 2nd best league in the world. Talent wise I'd argue its the 2nd best in the world. Major difference between euro league and gleague is g league has far less continuity. Good analogy would be like a blue blood program like Kentucky or Duke compared to a program thats been steadily good in recent years like University of Houston or Purdue. Houston and Purdue usually gets commitment from lower ranked hs recruits but they retain their players all 3-4 years and build off that chemistry whereas a program like Duke and Kentucky has more high end talent but lack experience/continuity due to a higher turnover rate.
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Post#94 » by Capn'O » Mon Sep 22, 2025 3:20 pm

Doctor MJ wrote:OP you right about G League. No doubt about it.

Only thing I’ll say: I feel like all the attempted hype for the G-League died when Scoot went from “Wemby’s rival” to one of the worst high profile rookies we’ve ever seen

The entire concept of the “G League instead of College” was that it would be better preparation for the NBA, but if that were true it shouldn’t have been possible to spent a year in the G League without red flags showing up. The G League seems to have been more interested in promoting Scott than alerting him to the things he desperately needed to improve.


That was such an indictment. Especially with the Thompson Twins going to Overtime and coming in ready to play. The NBA really dropped the ball and let it become a high profile rec league instead of true preparation.

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Post#95 » by ciueli » Mon Sep 22, 2025 3:25 pm

I really wish we could just stop comparing leagues that use International Basketball rules to leagues that use NBA basketball rules, there are enough differences that they can't really be compared effectively. Court sizes, game lengths, defensive 3 second rule, hand checking, goaltending, even the way referees call the game is massively different between them.
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Post#96 » by the sea duck » Mon Sep 22, 2025 4:00 pm

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NBA (technically international because it has a team from Canada)


I just want to highlight that having a team in Canada doesn't make the NBA international. The NBA is a global league because it recruits from everywhere and has no limits on who comprises the league. 43 different countries across 6 continents are represented. More than 1 in 4 NBA players today is foreign-born. It merely is hosted in US (and one Canadian) cities. Thus it is under US jurisdiction, but is not a domestic or North American league. Its talent pool is international. Its ownership is partly international. Its fanbase and revenues are majority international. Its cultural icons are no longer just American.
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Re: Juan Toscano-Anderson: The NBA G League Is "The 2nd Best League In The World" 

Post#97 » by jk31 » Mon Sep 22, 2025 4:20 pm

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Mirotic12 wrote:
NBA (technically international because it has a team from Canada)


I just want to highlight that having a team in Canada doesn't make the NBA international. The NBA is a global league because it recruits from everywhere and has no limits on who comprises the league. 43 different countries across 6 continents are represented. More than 1 in 4 NBA players today is foreign-born. It merely is hosted in US (and one Canadian) cities. Thus it is under US jurisdiction, but is not a domestic or North American league. Its talent pool is international. Its ownership is partly international. Its fanbase and revenues are majority international. Its cultural icons are no longer just American.


that explanation doesnt make sense at all. There is no sports League in the whole World where only players from the Leagues country are playing. the nba still is a domestic us League. Toronto being in it doesnt Change anything about that. for it to be International, Teams (Not players!!!) from All over the World would have to take Part.
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Re: Juan Toscano-Anderson: The NBA G League Is "The 2nd Best League In The World" 

Post#98 » by azcatz11 » Mon Sep 22, 2025 4:21 pm

Mephariel wrote:I never seen someone get so triggered by what a G league player say.


He reminds me of Leo DiCaprio in shutter island. His posts are completely delusional
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Re: Players And Coaches That Actually Think The NBA G League Is "The 2nd Best League In The World" 

Post#99 » by madmaxmedia » Mon Sep 22, 2025 5:08 pm

UcanUwill wrote:Keep fighting against windmills man. No one knowledgeable thinks that, G league guys transfer to other leagues often, we see and sense what the level is. I have seen Toscano wanted to ''prove'' G league is second best league in the world, but thats just a guy from G league saying that, I mean it is dumb take, but who cares a guy from a league thinks his league is good, its not a serious debate, these threads are so incredibly cringy to me, I feel so embarrassed any time I see one. Yes, Unicaja beat G league team, they were the favorites to do that, you really sit on your hands before this game, did you? :lol:


The entire context of this is him trying to rally his teammates by talking a little trash in a huddle or locker rom? Far worse things have been said (about everybody) than this LOL.
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Re: Juan Toscano-Anderson: The NBA G League Is "The 2nd Best League In The World" 

Post#100 » by dhsilv2 » Mon Sep 22, 2025 5:30 pm

UcanUwill wrote:One thing I still do not understand about this tournament, why every other continent is represented by actual club, meanwhile G league gets to select their all star team? Why aren't G league champions just play in this, this would probably mean very uncompetitive final I get that, as Malaga still beats their all star team no problem, but this G league team still reaches finals, beating African or Asian counterparts, so why they get to make all-league team, just seems weird to me? We could argue maybe actual G league team would get more chemistry and all that, and at least it would be even footing with African and Asian representatives. Because let say G league all stars wins this, where does the trophy even go, G league headquarters? There is no actual team here? The whole thing seems odd.

That said, I am a bit surprised G league united team still so noticeably behind random Spanish team like Malaga, there really aren't many quality players in G league, Baskonia just signed Markquis Nowell, who was a standout in G league, but he is literally 5'7, not sure thats a good signing, Baskonia has fallen off hard, they cant afford anybody good, I do not know how they still keep Euroleague spot, when they strugle making Spanish play offs these days?


Is there even a real "club" or "team" with these G league guys? They're all trying to get into the NBA and as such can be pulled away on short term contracts. The biggest problem with a g league team even in this is that they don't really have a true consistent roster. And doing an allstar grouping is just as bad.

If the g league team was winning, it would be due to them having just overwhelming talent advantages.

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